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Jacques Mieses vs Alexander Alekhine
Scheveningen (1913), Scheveningen NED, rd 3, Jul-29
Center Game: Paulsen Attack Variation (C22)  ·  0-1
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Jun-20-04
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  Chessical: <Calli> Your move <31.Qe4!!> seems to stop Alekhine's attack in its tracks:

<31.Qe4> Rb1+ (31...Bc3 32.Qxd3 Bf6 33.Re1 Rd8 34.Qxd8+ Bxd8 35.Bc1! looks pretty desperate) 32.Kd2 Rb2+ 33.Kd1= (33.Kxd3?? Rc3#)

Alekhine was very bullish about this game, stating that the sacrifice was sound "despite the opinion of all the critics who annotated the game at the time".

Jun-20-04
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  Calli: Sound? Well, yes, I find AA's combos are sound. His opponent really doesn't have a way to win. However, many of the games are not forced wins for Alekhine either. In this game, the question arises as whether AA simply missed Qe4 as a defense or slyly omitted it from his annotations for fear of damaging the game's reputation. No way of knowing, I guess.
Sep-15-04  Sergey Sorokhtin: Chessikal!Look new Kasparov's correktion! Qe4 draw http://www.chesschamps.com/pgn.shtml
Mar-20-05
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  offramp: Dr Nunn pointed out this brilliant line:

28.b3 ♖a5! 29.cxd3 cxd3 30.♔c1 ♗c3 31.♔d1 ♖a1+ 32.♗c1 ♖e1+! 33.♖xe1 ♖xc1+ 34.♔xc1 d2+ 35.♔c2

( 35.♔b1 dxe1♕+ 36.♔c2 ♕d2+ 37.♔b1 ♕b2#)

35...dxe1♘+!

Mar-20-05
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  Calli: <Offramp and Sorokhtin> - both lines have been posted before - see posts from last June. On CG, we are ahead of all those celebrity annotators :-)
Mar-20-05
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  offramp: I insist on a recount!
Mar-20-05  paladin at large:    <kevin86: Is there a longer distance from queen sac to eventual victory?! Twenty one moves sounds like a lot!!> Capablanca, at age 12, in his match with Cuban champion Corzo, sacrificed his queen on move 29 and Corzo resigned on move 60. (Corzo was compelled to give up his own queen on move 32 in order to avoid a forced mate in eight moves by Capa.) Capablanca vs J Corzo, 1901
May-25-09  shakespeare: 33.... Re2 would be mate in one
May-25-09
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  Calli: <33.... Re2 would be mate in one>

What about 34.Kf1?

May-25-09  I Like Fish: 34...
rxd1...
checkmate...
May-26-09  blacksburg: holy moly, was that an actual on-topic kibitz with an actual variation from <I Like Fish>?

WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO!@!?@??!??@#$!???? AHAAAAAAAHHHHHH

May-26-09  gus inn: I like..
when..
fish..
checkmates..
May-26-09  I Like Fish: hello blacksburg...
hello gus inn...

i will offer...
my deep...
one ply analysis...
to the world...
at irregular intervals...

Jun-09-09  gus inn: thank...
you...
Jun-09-09  Fanacas: I believe that lasker made anotations from this game in his manual wil look them up.
Dec-29-11
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  whiteshark: Here is the game <paladin at large> mentioned: Capablanca vs J Corzo, 1901
Dec-29-11
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  whiteshark: <kevin86: Is there a longer distance from queen sac to eventual victory?! Twenty one moves sounds like a lot!!>

35! - from <16...Qxf2+> to <51...Rc3>: Tolush vs Geller, 1952

Dec-29-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: <kevin86: Is there a longer distance from queen sac to eventual victory?! Twenty one moves sounds like a lot!!>

65 moves! (17...dxe3 to 82...Kh3 ) S Kindermann vs Yusupov, 1995

Dec-29-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: I wonder if this game has been played before or after this one: S Levitsky vs Alekhine, 1913 ?
Dec-29-11  sneaky pete: <whiteshark> This game was played July 29 (tournament book) and the match against Lewitsky in March (Meine besten Partien 1908-1923).
Dec-29-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: Thanks <sneaky pete>! So it seems that Aljechin did do his homework after the Lewitsky game. :D
Apr-25-12  rossvassilev: so what happens if white plays 27.cxd3?
Apr-25-12  sneaky pete: <rossvassilev> <Wochenschach> suggests that after 27.cxd3 cxd3 28.Qd2 Rb5


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black will regain the queen (29.Qxd3 Rxb2+ 30.Kc1 Rc8+ 31.Kd1 Rd8) but I'm not sure what will happen after 29.b4 .. (29... a5 30.Bc5 b6 31.Bd6 ,,).

It also gives the line 27... Rxd3 28.Rg3 Bd4 29.Qxd3 cxd3 30.Bxd4 Re1+ 31.Ka2 d2


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which looks more convincing.

Jan-07-13  Llawdogg: Wow! 31 Qe4! instead of g5?? sure does take the sizzle out of this great game.
Sep-20-13  phil6875: <rossvasilev>

The correct line after 27. cxd3 is,

27...Rxd3 28. Rg3 Bd4 29. Qc2 Bxe3 30. Qxd4 Rd1+ 31. Ka2 Re6 32. f5 Ra6+ 33. Kb3 Rb6+ draw.

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