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Alexander Alekhine vs Ernst Gruenfeld
Vienna 1922  ·  Gruenfeld Defense: General (D80)  ·  0-1


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Nov-07-04
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  who: <capanegra> interestingly there is one move more mentioned here.
Nov-22-04   aw1988: One time, in a tournament in 1992, the 8th round if I recall, I had played a brilliant game and was on the verge of winning. Suddenly my opponent looked at me with misty eyes and said some long thing sounding Shakesperian. I didn't realize it at the time, but he was very sneakily telling me my game was completely won. I, at the time, did not know what in the world he was talking about, and blundered a piece. The game ended in a draw and I took 2nd place.
Nov-22-04   pawn52: <aw1988> Is it possible that you can provide the notation of that game?
Nov-23-04   aw1988: Certainly. Let me just find the scoresheet which I grumpily threw out after the game. That leaves about 20 billion or so garbage cans.
Jun-02-05
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  vonKrolock: <28.Qe4> Thus white loses the exchange immediately. It seems that with 28.Qf3, at least this can be avoided - if now 28...Qb5, then 29.Ra7! threatens 'f7' - but the strong 28...a5! (instead of Qb5) black will inevitably win a pawn, keeping his advantages (29.Qc6 Qc6 30.bc b5! etc) A rare instance of Alekhine being outplayed in tactical skirmishes, and a fine victory for Grünfeld with the Grünfeld
Jul-06-05   mynameisrandy: After Alekhine saw that Gruenfeld had sealed the best move, he unleashed the following monologue:

"You don't know what it's like - I'm the one out there every day putting his ass on the line. And I'm not out of order! You're out of order! The whole freaking system is out of order! You want the truth? You want the truth? You can't handle the truth! 'Cause when you reach over and put your hand into a pile of goo - that used to be your best friend's face, you'll know what to do!! Forget it Ernst, it's Chinatown!!!"

An orator as well as a chessplayer.

Jul-06-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  WannaBe: <mynameisrandy> LOL!
Aug-08-05   sitzkrieg: I wonder if the story is correct at all. Kmoch who apparently wrote it (first?) was a Alekhine hater..
Oct-14-05   tonsillolith: If 5...Nxg5, I see white can regain the piece by h4 or f4 but it still doesn't seem favorable to white. if black then plays Ne4, 7. Nxe4 Qxd5 and white loses a tempo. Am I missing something? There has to be a good reason black didn't play Nxg5 because I know neither of these players missed it. Could someone please explain?
Oct-14-05   Nostradamus: Nxg5 h4 Ne4 Nxe4 Qxd5 Nc3 Qh5 with equality is the established line.
Oct-15-05   tonsillolith: so with 5...Nxc3 does black get more than equality?

my version of fritz has over a -.50 evaluation after Nxg5 and also gives it as the best choice for black on move 5.

Oct-15-05   BadTemper: what the hell is wrong with

26. BxQ RxQ 27. Nf1 ?!?!

Dec-20-05   chesscrazy: There is another really strange story like <An Englishman> and <capanegra>'s. Here goes:

There was this Danish player (don't know his name) and he lost because he touched the head of his queen by accident when he didn't want to. At night, he snuck back into the tournament room and cut off all the heads of the queens in every chess set the tournament had.

Feb-27-06   alexandrovm: at the end the bishop is lost, and black should win this.
Oct-11-06   Plato: In the spirit of the comments here, another tale relates that the young mathematician Arpad Elo (of future "Elo rating" fame) was observing the game, and after Black's third move he suddenly blurted: "Grandmaster Gruenfeld just played the Gruenfeld Defense!! What were the odds on that??!" at which point Alekhine threw him out the window for kibitzing while the game was in progress, and Gruenfeld took full advantage of the rare opportunity to behead Alekhine's Queen, who screamed out her final memorable words, "Why must I be beheaded by this idiot???" which caught the attention of Nimzowitsch, who naturally went to the corner of the room to stand on his head.

In the meanwhile, Akiba Rubinstein was swatting imaginary flies off of his own head, and the ghost of Steinitz was still spitting away at the venerated head of 80-year-old Joseph Henry Blackburne while simultaneously engaged in a chess game against God (Who spotted him pawn and move odds, but lost); poor Amos Burn still hadn't managed to light his doggone pipe, wailing at the injustice of it all (he only had three more years to figure the damn thing out, poor chap), whereupon the Polish master Paulino Frydman ran around the room in the nude yelling "Fire!", and Capablanca, who had been stoically analysing his position and was completely oblivious to the commotion all around him, suddenly announced mate in twenty-four against his hapless and perpetually luckless opponent "NN," who groaned that he was going to retire from chess altogether and would people <please> stop stealing his initials and tacking them to the losing side of brilliant games.

It was then that the one year-old Smyslov sang "La Donna e Mobile" in a fine baritone voice while demonstrating his endgame virtuosity in a brilliant queen ending against the nine year-old Reshevsky, who was simultaneously giving simultaneous displays against some of Europe's leading masters, including Ossip Bernstein, who accused him of needing to go potty too often for a boy his age, which was duly noted by the non-existent but nonetheless savvy Silvio Danailov. By this time Alekhine had lost the game, threw his King across the room, extended his hand in courtesy and bleated, "Well done, Mr. Gruenfeld," but the latter responded with a sinister laugh and vowed never to give him a rematch, a fact which was duly noted by the fully-existent and altogether savvy Alexander Alekhine.

This is where it starts to get foggy... some sources claim that an identified Grandmaster suddenly sat down and started nibbling on his cheese sandwich, while others insist that it was really tuna, still others denying both reports, pointing to circumstantial evidence of eggsalad and tomato. The entire incident has henceforth been referred to as "The Great Sandwich Debate," and -- shockingly -- to this very day there is no consensus among historians regarding the precise comestible content of that sandwich, consumed and gone forever on that mysterious autumn afternoon in Vienna, 1922...

<Source: Philidor, François-André Danican: Analyse du jeu des Échecs, Café de la Régence Publishing House, 1749>

Oct-11-06   TrueFiendish: I heard the sandwich, prepared by an unnamed grandmaster analysing the game on his pocket set in the toilet, contained Atlantic salmon and rhubarb leaves, which, in sandwich code, actually signifies "Qb5 at once is winning". Unfortunately, Qb5 was a terrible and obvious blunder and duly lost at once. If the unnamed grandmaster had included the correct analysis (bean sprouts) the resulting Qb3 would indeed have won on the spot (apparently it was dark in there).
Oct-12-06   Plato: <TrueFiendish> That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Please stick to documented and verifiable facts, like me.
Oct-12-06   TrueFiendish: Nah, true story! :-)
Oct-12-06   ARubinstein: <Plato> This was very funny !!!
Oct-18-06   slomarko: Ivanchuk once resigned by throwing all the pieces down.
Dec-09-06   thegoodanarchist: Walter Browne once smashed his opponent's chess clock after losing.

Unlike some of the tall tales printed on this page, my story is true.

Dec-09-06   Plato: <thegoodanarchist> Are you implying that my story is false?!
Dec-10-06   thegoodanarchist: <Plato> I named no names - the guilty know who they are :)
Dec-21-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  blazerdoodle: I think this thread is - ah, quite toast.
Dec-20-08   WhiteRook48: Nimzowitsch once resigned saying "WHY MUST I LOSE TO THIS IDIOT?" At the end of this game Alekhine threw the King across the room. Oh, and the Danish Guy did (What the!?) cut the heads off all the Queens.
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