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Alexander Alekhine vs Samuel Reshevsky
Kemeri (1937)  ·  Alekhine Defense: Modern Variation. Alekhine Gambit (B05)  ·  1-0
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Jun-08-11
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  juan31: Una pregunta: ¿este juego es Ajedrez - Arte ? ¿o sólo un excelente juego del Gran Maestro Internacional de Ajedrez Alexander Alekhine?
Jun-09-11  DWINS: I'm not sure if anyone has pointed out that Alekhine missed an absolute killer with 31.Bxf6! (6.51) compared with 2.50 for his 31.Bc5. The difference is that after 31...Qf7, he plays 32.Bg5 (10.57) and Black has no good place to move his Queen, e.g. 32...Qe6 33.Rde1 and it's all over. Best seems to be 32...Rxd1 33.Rxd1 but then either 34.Qg4+ or 34.Qd6 follows and again it's all over.
Jun-09-11  aliejin: "Una pregunta: ¿este juego es Ajedrez - Arte ? ¿o sólo un excelente juego del Gran Maestro Internacional de Ajedrez Alexander Alekhine?" No se entiende la pregunta ....
En todo caso quien siempre
ha intentado hacer del ajedrez
un arte es precismente alekhine
Sin ir mas lejos en esta misma
partida desprecio el camino prosaico
por uno artístico.
Jul-13-11
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  juan31: Aliejin: Constesto usted mi duda. Gracias
Dec-29-11
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  Shams: This seems to be the only game in the db with 8.Qxe2 (To Quoc Khanh vs E Torre, 2003 continued 8.Kxe2). Is it really possible that this "Alekhine's Gambit" has a name but no progeny?
Dec-29-11  King Death: < RookFile: It's not that simple, though. Alekhine smashed Reshevsky, and Lasker
had a plus score against Alekhine.
Case closed? It might be, except for
one thing: Reshevsky smashed Lasker...>

Yeah, a score of 3-2 for Alekhine in 5 games is really putting the wood to somebody! Then there's the fact that Reshevsky and Lasker met only that one time and Lasker was at the end of the line. Look at some of Lasker's other games in this event.

Dec-29-11
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  FSR: Yes, you can't draw a lot of conclusions from Reshevsky winning one game against the 67-year-old Lasker, playing in his last tournament. Nor is Alekhine's 3-2 score against Reshevsky of too much significance. Lasker's +3 =4 -1 score against Alekhine, over a 22-year period, is the only score of these to which I would ascribe much significance.

Oddly, RookFile refers to Lasker as having a "plus score" against Alekhine, but to Alekhine "smashing" Reshevsky and Reshevsky "smashing" Lasker. Somehow a +2 score is just a "plus score," while a +1 score constitutes "smashing" one's rival.

Dec-29-11  RookFile: Wow, thanks for bringing up something from nearly 7 years ago, but try to focus. The point of what I was saying can be illustrated simply by allowing the rest of the quote to be included:

<When it comes to great players, it's really hard to find them both in their prime. Reshevsky versus Fine or comparing Smyslov to Tal is a lot easier than comparing different generations. >

Dec-29-11
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  FSR: Incidentally, Chessmetrics considers Lasker to have been the #1 player in the world as late as December 1926. http://chessmetrics.com/cm/CM2/Sing...
Dec-29-11
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  FSR: There are actually more games in the database where Alekhine against Alekhine's Defense (19) than where he played it himself (16). http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... At least four of his games as White were in simuls, though.
Dec-29-11
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  SteinitzLives: Reshevsky had a minus score against every world champion from Alekhine to Fischer (he only played Karpov once, with a 12 move draw).
Dec-29-11  King Death: < RookFile: Wow, thanks for bringing up something from nearly 7 years ago, but try to focus...>

Is "try to focus" one of your standard lines? Try to focus on this. You act like an idiot. You run out the same old shtick.

Dec-29-11  Penguincw: No time for 15...b6 trying to trap the bishop due to 16.Qxc6+ Qc7 17.Qa8+ Nb8 18.Bxb8 Qxb8 19.Qxb8+ Kxb8 20.Rxd8 or something along those lines leaving white up a rook and two pawns with no compensation for black.


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Jan-06-12  RookFile: Not a doubt in the world that Lasker ranks higher than Alekhine in the list of great players.
Jan-06-12  aliejin: "Not a doubt in the world that Lasker ranks higher than Alekhine in the list of great players."

In the list of great players there is no ranking

A great player is immeasurable, even those who were not world champions, Rubinstein, Keres, tarrasch etc

Mar-18-12  capanegra: A photograph of this game being played was published today in http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/....

It looks like the picture was taken after 21...f6.

Mar-18-12  pawnofdeath: 37. ...Rd8
38. Rxd8#
Apr-04-12  Anderssen99: Didn,t Black have a move better than 27.....,Nb8?
Apr-04-12
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  HeMateMe: This wonderful combination is in many tactical books, including lev alburt's "300 essential positions".

1) Stick your opponent's King behind a wedge pawn on the 6th rank.

2) All sorts of back rank tactical motifs appear.

Feb-21-13  jerseybob: Capanegra: You're saying there's a picture of Alekhine-Reshevsky in progress? I don't see it on this link, or do I have to click something else once onto page one?
Feb-21-13
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  Phony Benoni: <jerseybob> Wrong link. Try this one, scanning down to item 7561:

http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...

Feb-21-13
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  perfidious: Wonder whether there are any other pictures extant featuring Alekhine from Kemeri besides the link above and the following: http://www.chess.lt/lithuania/lit/h....
Feb-22-13  jerseybob: Phony: Thanks for that pic. This is one of the first master games I ever encountered, in an old Reinfield book, and it seemed like magic. Bet it did to Sammy too.
Feb-23-13  RookFile: <A great player is immeasurable, even those who were not world champions, Rubinstein, Keres, tarrasch etc >

Well, I'll measure them anyway. Lasker was champ longer and had a plus score against Alekhine.

Next.

Feb-23-13  jerseybob: SteinitzLives: I don't know why you arbitrarily started with Alekhine to show how badly Reshevsky did against World Champs. Against the WC right before Alekhine, Capablanca, Sammy had an even score. We already know of his plus score against Lasker. Against Euwe, he had a plus score, and he drew the one and only tournament game he played with Tal(Amsterdam '64) Otherwise, your sweeping generalization is true.
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