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|May-05-07|| ||Fast Gun: Keres only win against Alekhine. How is it possible for a tactical genius like Alekhine to fall for Qxd7+? The master of tactics is hoist by his own petard!! Keres was no slouch either when it came to tactics, he could not have believed it when Alekhine played Qb4??:|
|Mar-25-08|| ||Prudov: According to Keres, the game would be lost anyway for black.
However, Alekhin should have played 21. … Rxf6 instead of 21. … Qxf6. He told Keres after the game that he had feared 22. Qxh7, but Keres under time pressure would have answered 22. Qd4.|
|Jan-13-09|| ||drnooo: Looking at the record of these two, it seems clear that Keres was suffering from the throes of the war, and may have once again been throwing the games to somebody whom he owed subsistance. May have. Before being behind enemy lines, so to speak, he and Alekhine were about equal. Also at the time Keres was probably the best player in the world. He was losing often before the German invasion, and after VE day the only one he lost much to was Botvinnik and we know the rumors there that Stalin wanted his head and Botvinnik interceded.|
|Mar-29-09|| ||ROO.BOOKAROO: It's easy to call 21 .... Qb4 a blunder. But what did Alekhine have in mind? I mean, what was his intention. And was not a simple 21 ... Qf7 enough to protect against the immediate future? No matter what the computers see further down the line.|
|Aug-08-09|| ||tentsewang: By sacrificing his queen to bishop, he wing with his e Rook and the following d rook.|
|Sep-24-09|| ||WhiteRook48: of course with the 21...QF7 black is temporarily safe|
|Nov-25-09|| ||mulde: "According to Keres, the game would be lost anyway for black." |
The very point is that Keres did not mention (in his book 'Grandmaster of Chess') the quit easy to find move 20. ... Bh3! with full equality. Instead, he gave 20. ... f6 an '!' which is perfectly wrong.
I don't know in which confession Alekhine played this game, and I don't know why Keres took it into his games collection, despite the beauty of the last move and the fact to have won against the great Alekhine there is not reason to do.
There are absolutely wonderful Keres games, but this one doesn't belong to then, I think.
|Jan-05-10|| ||technical draw: Alekhine recovered the world championship from Euwe the year this game was played. Does anyone know if he was the reigning WC when this game was played? It must have been a thrill for the 18 year old Keres to beat the great Alekhine!|
|Jan-05-10|| ||plang: <Does anyone know if he was the reigning WC when this game was played?>|
No, Margate was ~6 months prior to the second Euwe-Alekhine match which started in October.
|Jan-05-10|| ||technical draw: Thanks, <plang>.|
|Jun-14-10|| ||timothee3331: 14.Qd5! is a very precise move, neutralizing the kingside pawns and putting a lot of pressure on the black weaknesses as well as preparing the long castle.
if 14...g4 15.e6! Bxe6 16.Bxc6+ bxc6 17.Qxc6+ Bd7 18.Qe4+! winning the queen.|
|Jun-14-10|| ||BobCrisp: <Looking at the record of these two, it seems clear that Keres was suffering from the throes of the war, and may have once again been throwing the games to somebody whom he owed subsistance.>|
The last thing we need is another Keres game chucking conspiracy!
In his posthumous book.<Legado!>, Alekhine writes (presumably in 1946): <As regards Keres, his position in 1938-9 was less resolved; he gave the impression of preferring to let a few years pass. But in 1943, perhaps influenced by the disastrous results he obtained against me in recent meetings (+3 =3 -0 in my favour) he resolutely declared that he had not the slightest intention of challenging me to a match.>
|Jun-14-10|| ||chancho: <he resolutely declared that he had not the slightest intention of challenging me to a match.>|
Any quotes from Keres himself admitting to Alekhine's statement? Would be good to know...
|Jun-14-10|| ||Rob Morrison: Not Alekhine's day. What a horrible wipeout.|
|Jun-14-10|| ||BobCrisp: <Any quotes from Keres himself admitting to Alekhine's statement?>|
I'd assume we'd be talking about a private rather than public pronouncement, but I don't see any particular reason to doubt Alekhine's word. Leaving aside their personal score, I would think, that by 1943, with the war beginning to turn, Keres may have had more pressing things on his mind.
|Jun-14-10|| ||chancho: <BobCrisp> Considering Alekhine declared that he did not write one single word of the anti semitic articles, it's hard to take him at his word in the above statement of his. He was not exactly Honest Abe, but then again we all have a tendency to lie on occassion.|
|Jul-13-11|| ||Tigranny: 22...Qf7 or 22.Qg7 would've protected the bishop from capture and the king from mate instead of 22...Qb4??|
|Aug-01-11|| ||Formula7: 23.Qxd7+ Kb8 (Rxd7 24.Re8+ Rd8 25.R(either)xd8#) 24.Qxd8+ Ka7 25.Qxf6 and White has won 2 rooks and a bishop.|
|Aug-01-11|| ||estrick: Queen sacrifice. Must be Monday|
|Aug-01-11|| ||lost in space: I love Mondays!
23. Qxd7+ Rxd7
(or 23...Kb8 24. Qxd8+ Ka7 25. Qxf6 1:0)
24. Re8+ Rd8 25. Rd(e)xd8#
|Aug-01-11|| ||rhickma4: A famous game and result.
23.Qxd7 wins a bishop and a rook (23..Rxd7 24.Re8+)
|Aug-01-11|| ||sevenseaman: Monday! Banks are open. You pay cash or check, Alekhine accepts both.|
Keres, the best player never to have won the World championship?
|Aug-01-11|| ||dzechiel: White to move (23?). White is up a pawn. "Very Easy."|
This seems like it must have been in a simul. It would be surprising to think that Alekhine would over look
in a tournament game. Black must lose three pieces after
Not 23...Rxd7 24 Re8+ Rd8 25 Rdxd8#.
24 Qxd8+ Ka7 25 Qxf6
I'm sure Alekhine resigned on the move.
Time to check.
|Aug-01-11|| ||Nullifidian: 23. xd7+
The only way to stave off immediate mate is to give up the two rooks as well as the bishop:
23... b8 24. xd8+ a7 25. xf6
Either that or Black will be mated in two:
23... xd7 24. e8+ d8 25. xd8# (either one)
|Aug-01-11|| ||drnooo: I have to laugh at the , what, hypocrisy is too small a word for anyone here saying they knew what going on in THAT wartime. Ahh now the words appears: gall, the sheer gall. This we know, Keres was not successful in escaping from the Nazis.... and then the damned Russians. All else is conjecture, but this guaranteed, he had more on his mind than some stupid chess games. For those who need a gentle nudge if not outright prod, have a peek at some of those wonderful photos of Treblinka and Dachau, I? I have a nice little scrapbook of some relatives of mine that never came back from Germany and tons of chilling conversations with others who were either in those camps or lived under the jackboots of the Germans.
Anyone here who loves to go on about how tough Fischer had it, his travails were all self made. Keres had his whole bloody world fall on on him and never said a single word about it, took his lickings like the great soul he was. Notice nobody, not a single grandmaster ever had anything but the hightest praise for him. He was the true sorrow of chess, not Morphy and certainly not little ole Bobby.|
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