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Mikhail Botvinnik vs Alexander Alekhine
AVRO (1938), The Netherlands, rd 7, Nov-15
Queen's Gambit Declined: Semi-Tarrasch Defense. Pillsbury Variation (D41)  ·  1-0
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Feb-04-13
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  Robed.Bishop: <Richard Taylor> Why not just admit you were wrong about Alekhine in the first place?
Feb-06-13
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  Richard Taylor: That would be too easy. At first I thought I was right. But then I got into the fun of it all. What a great novel it might make! 'The First (?) Jewish Chess Playing Nazi!'
Feb-06-13
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  lost in space: <<Richard Taylor:> Seriously though, 10. ... b6? is now well known to be wrong. This position can arise from the Panov-Bot or the QGA and is well known.>

Here the answer what is played today instead of 10...b6: Opening Explorer

Jun-22-13  RookFile: This game shows what a fearsome endgame player Botvinnik was.
Jun-26-13  radioarno: chessplayers looking for chess kibitizing on chessgames.com get some awfully ridiculous stuff on this particular page.
Jun-26-13
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  perfidious: <radioarno>: That tendency is by no means confined to this page-you should have seen some of the content which has been deleted elsewhere.
Mar-19-14  Zephyr10: Seriously though, there's so much instructive commentary on these boards that players visit to learn from, why allow inane ramblings that are neither entertaining nor informative?

Even the use of spellcheck apparently requires more consideration than Mr. Taylor possesses.

Mar-19-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: Fascinating information about Grovinski and Coal Harbor. Alekhine was a very complex character.
Mar-30-14  Starfire: This Tournament AVRO 1938 was the finest,most powerful players EVER!
Apr-02-14
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  offramp: < Starfire: This Tournament AVRO 1938 was the finest,most powerful players EVER!>

I've never liked AVRO (1938). They had all the players but it was SO boring. The older players were shattered by the schedule .

Does anyone remember any really good games from this event? Only one-sided thrashings. I'd rather play through games from Linares (1999). That was hard-fought!

Apr-02-14
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  Petrosianic: The Travelling Road Show aspect, playing every game in a new city, handicapped the older players noticably. The youngsters could handle all the travel better. Of course, that seemed to be the thing in the 30's. The Alekhine-Euwe matches and Alekhine-Bogoljubov matches were played the same way. Chess Meets Vaudeville?
May-01-14
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  Zhbugnoimt: 12.Bxh7+ wins a pawn.
May-01-14
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  TheFocus: <Zhbugnoimt> You can't play 12.Bxh7+ in this game.
May-02-14
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  perfidious: <TheFocus> Y'all beat me to it!

signed, Mr Hasbeenusetawas

Jul-01-14  1d410: Maybe Alekhine was Jewish, maybe not. Since it's history it doesn't matter. As a music fan, I feel the same about the teaching buffoon's that say tchaikovsky was gay, even though very few people are actually gay. It happenned a long time ago, so no one can really say.
Jul-02-14  aliejin: "Alekhine Jew .."
Sometimes I wonder ... where goes the need for talking nonsense?

"Alekhine appearance of the devil ..."
Where is the arrogance and devil ? on the picture or on our minds?

Mar-13-15  Conrad93: I need to have whatever Richard Taylor is taking.
Mar-14-15
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  Richard Taylor: <Conrad93> I am simply a genius. My wonderful capacity to invent stories etc is inherent, not dependent on drugs.

I proved that Alekhine was, in fact, a Nazi Jew, or a Jewish White Russian Nazi. I am also working on a history of Fischer that proves he was not born in the United States, and that, by a brilliant an elaborate procedure, he cheated (Larsen and Taimanov actually "threw" their matches. This is all very controversial and fascinating, even to such luminaries as Zephyr10, so keep a look out for my book...

However, for Comrade Zehyrre's enlitenmentt, I ignor'atte the spell chekker as I am kreatiff an' oi doan loike Amerrikann spellingk.

Mar-14-15
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  Richard Taylor: Which is another way of saying that you are all a bunch of fockers and can all fock off and die!

Sadly the program wont let me use the correct British spellings.

Aug-19-15
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  NM JRousselle: This game does not get the credit it deserves. I believe Botvinnik's play is of a higher quality in this game than his more famous game vs Capablanca in this same event.
Aug-19-15
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  keypusher: <NM JRouselle> I like this one too.

Botvinnik vs Reshevsky, 1938

Jan-01-16  cunctatorg: Please enlighten me; why 25... g5 when Black is essentially lacking in development?!? Is there any better move than this 25... g5? What are Alekhine's decisive mistakes at this historic, great game?
Jan-02-16  aliejin: The move criticized by analysts
is not g5, but ... h5 (h6 instead ..)

In AVRO 1938, Resevsky said,
veterans (Alekhine and Capablanca)
they suffered continuous trips

Each round
tournament was played in a different city !

Nov-29-16  tigreton: Nice game! Botvinnik wins, despite the symetrical pawn structure, thanks to his more active pieces, and keeping a constant pressure, with moves such as Bb5, Qa4, Qc7, etc. Eventually, it is the invasion of his rook what decides the game. Raymond Chandler says that Alekhine learnt from this game and, a year later, he defeated Eliskakes in the same way. See the game Alekhine-Eliskakes, Buenos Aires 1939.
Nov-29-16  tigreton: Sorry, I meant Raymond Keene. I suppose it's not difficult to get mixed such a great player and such a great writer.
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