|Dec-22-03|| ||marekg248: Comments on this game are at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy... (plus one Capablanca's game). |
|Aug-20-06|| ||Helios727: Why the resignation?|
|Aug-20-06|| ||Benzol: <Helios727>
Conel Hugh O'Donel Alexander in his book on Alyekhin says "A rather sudden resignation, but there is little to do. If 28...h6; 29.♗e3 ♘c4; 30.♗d4 (threat 31.♘f6+) 30...♖d8; 31.♘c5 (threat 32.♘d7 followed by ♘4f6+) 31...♔f8; 32.b3 ♘d6; 33.♗g7+ or 33.♘a6 winning easily in either case."
|Aug-17-12|| ||csmath: The whole opening was played with such a force it is hard to sustain the level of play, Podgorny was tired in a rather hapless ending. But what is more interesting is that Alekhine amazingly decided against|
which is obvious move.
That is a stroke of genius! Even though the move leads to a solid advantage the path he has chosen is simpler. Not too many times has Alekhine chosen simpler path unless it led to a forced win. This is one example. His ability to evaluate positions properly was just plain uncany. It is as god has been playing this game.
I think this was the impression of Podgorny "there is no way I can save this."
|Oct-24-13|| ||davide2013: I was stunned by the resignation. I let Houdini run for about 8 minutes, and this is the result:|
28...Na4 29.h3 h6 30.Ng3 Rc4 31.Nf5 Nc5+ 32.Nxc5 Rxc1 33.Nb3
Rg1 34.Ne3 f6 35.Nd4 Kf7 36.Kc2 h5 37.f4 g4 38.hxg4 hxg4 39.Kb3
Re1 40.Nef5 Rd1 41.Kxb4 Rd2 42.g3 Rxb2+ 43.Kc5 Rd2 44.Kxd5 Rd3
45.Ke4 Rc3 46.Nd6+ Ke7 47.N6b5 Rc4 $20 +0.43
At the end of this line there is an endgame of 2 knights and pawns, vs rook and pawns, if Black exchanges the pawns, white will never win.
|Oct-25-13|| ||aliejin: "I was stunned by the resignation. I let Houdini run for about 8 minutes, and this is the result:"|
IF you are going to be "stunned" every time that a real line of some game
has a different result than a computer ..... you will be "stunned" the rest
of your life
Even more, if you are going to be "stunned" every time that a line of a computer
changes with the new releases.... you will be "stunned" the rest
of your life again
Real Chess and software world are not the same.
Software is just a guide that must be interpreted.
|Nov-01-13|| ||davide2013: Obviously I was "stunned" by the resignation, because I wouldn't resign in such position. I would have continued to play, and draw the game. And Houdini, who is however rated 3300, quite above any living or dead GM. Didn't consider such position lost too.
Since I don't live inside a chess school, with other GMs, I looked for a confirmation to my judgment of the final position, and someone who is about 1300 points stronger than me, also agreed. Hope you understand now.|
|Nov-01-13|| ||aliejin: " I was "stunned" by the resignation"
I explained very clearly .....
|Nov-01-13|| ||davide2013: So Aliejin apart the sterile troll polemic that you are trying to stir in here. Do you have actually any line which would prove my conclusion (the game is a draw) or Houdini's analysis, wrong?|
|Nov-01-13|| ||tamar: Probably Podgorny resigned when he saw his counter attack failing in the line given by CHO'D Alexander beginning with 28...h6 29 Be3 Nc4 |
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when both 30 Bd4 and 30 Nf6+ are winning.
However, the unassuming 29...Nd7
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stops that attack, and it is difficult to progress for White without exchanging his bishop for the knight (once it reaches e5). The resulting 2 knights versus rook pawn ending would be tending toward a draw.
Gull 2.2x64 basically confirms that difficulty, showing a consistent .38 to .41 advantage for White but no breakthroughs.
Kasparov gives "28...h6 29 Be3 Nc4 30 Nf6+ Kf8 31 Bc5+ Kg7 32 Bd4 wins" OMGP V1 page 454
I am inclined to believe Kasparov is copying someone else here, which happens a lot at the end of games.
Someone resigns in a dangerous looking position, and analysis goes unchallenged for years.