| Dec-01-02 |
| Bears092: The good ol' elastic band. |
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| Dec-01-02 |
| Kulla Tierchen: Black is O.K.! |
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May-22-04
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| alphee: Is white position so bad he has to resing here, even if 10. xa4+  xa4} or (10.  c1 xa2? |
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May-22-04
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| alphee: are this game and the Benko gambit by the same palyers real games or just a proof that the Benoni defense and the Benko gambit, starting with the same 4 initial moves, can lead to the same position with the same number of moves. My belief is they are not real games. |
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May-22-04
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| tpstar: <alphee> Exactly! On 12. Qxa4+ Nxa4, or 12. Rc1 Qxc2 13. Rxc2 Nb5, White loses a piece with no compensation. If you play the Benko, you might remember this idea of Qa5+ tying White up; correct was 9. Bd2 Qb6 10. Qc2 Bxa6 or 10. Qb3!? Qxa6 with a tense middlegame, or else the speculative 9. Kf1!?. FYI, this is pretty late in the opening for White to accept the gambit, as 5. g3 & 6. Bg2 are a tad slow. |
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May-22-04
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| alphee: <tpstar:>Agreed, it is late. I am not too familiar with the Benko Gambit and started looking at it after I saw it mentioned in some Roman Dzindzichashvili's DVDs (part of my family is of Georgian origin). I saw in the DB there is a similar game (almost) that starts as a Benoni defense, with the same players an finishes with the same position, same number of moves and white "giving up". Hence my question: was is a real "give up" or just that they demonstrated what they wanted and just stopped.
In the same situation I would probably have played 10. d2 to "unpin" the Knight and keep a4 under control. After 11. ... a4 I would have played b3 as a2 can either be protected or be a protector. |
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| Sep-24-04 |
| hicetnunc: --> alphee
I'm not sure if you're referring to white's 10th or 12th move, but I just wanted to mention that in case of 10.Qa4+, black wins by 10...Qxa4 11.Nxa4 Rxa6 when the white knight is short of good retreat squares.
And in the final position, after 12.Qb3 Qxb3 13.axb3 Nb5, white is simply a piece down... |
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| Sep-26-07 |
| Amorim: What about 12.b3? Doesnt it win the piece back for white? |
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Sep-26-07
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| SwitchingQuylthulg: <Amorim> 12.b3 Qe4 |
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