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|Jan-28-13|| ||abuzic: I think the puzzle should be 36...?
because in the game, 36...Qc7 is wrong, 36...Rb2! should be the correct move: threatening ...Rxc2+ and ...Nb4; if 37.Rb1 Nb4 (threatening the Q, the R and the N) now if 38.Qxd6 Rxc2+ 39.Kd1 Qa5;
if 37.Rc1 Qf6! and wins the B,
now if 38.g5 Qd4+ 39.Qd3
<(39.Bd3 Qc3+ 40.Kd1 Re1+ 41.Nxe1 Qxc1+ 42.Bxc1 Nc3#)>
<(40.Kd1 Rxc1+ 41.Bxc1 Nc3+ 42.Kd2
<[42.Kc2 Qa4+ 43.Kd2 Qd1# or 43.Kb2 Qa2# or ...Rb4# ]> 42...Qb4)>
40...Nb4+ 41.Kd2 Nxd3.
after 36...Qc7 37.Qxa2 Rxf4 38.Rxf4 Qc3+ 39.Kc1 Rb2 40.Rc4 and white should be better
|Jan-28-13|| ||Abdel Irada: <abuzic: I think the puzzle should be 36...?>|
While that might make a good puzzle in its own right, it would not be a Monday puzzle.
|Jan-28-13|| ||morfishine: 40...Rb1+ 41.Kxb1 Qb2 mate
For some reason, this was visually awkward for me: after 40...Rb1+ 41.Kxb1, I kept seeing the White King still on c1
|Jan-28-13|| ||sorokahdeen: I think more interesting than the combination is the middle-game. At first, white's setup looks super-aggressive but when the night gets to e5, it's anchored in with no way for white to dislodge it with pawns and the next thing you know, white has nothing like an attack because black has no significant weaknesses on the kingside for white to work with and black ends up developing a considerable initiative. |
This leads to an interesting question: where did white go wrong? What did he do that allowed him to be smashed tactically by black?
|Jan-28-13|| ||LIzzard: Bartimaeus:
I had the same impulse for white:
(40 Qxb2), but the King is still too exposed to come back. The sequence I saw from there was:
Kc1 h5 (c1 or lose the knight)
g5 Qb2+ (g5 or face mating combination/loss of rook)
At this point it's hard to see a way to save the knight and/or a rook, which gives a significant material and exposure advantage to black.
I was going quickly, but that's how I saw it playing out - better get back to work!
|Jan-28-13|| ||mistreaver: Monday.Black to play. Very easy. 40?
41Rxb1 Qb2 mate
1/1 start. <3 Mondays.
|Jan-28-13|| ||Chesschatology: I call this tactic the <Drag and Tag>.|
|Jan-28-13|| ||morfishine: <sorokahdeen> Very interesting your insight here: <I think more interesting than the combination is the middle-game> An intriguing sequence, series of moves, by both sides|
|Jan-28-13|| ||Bartimaeus: <LIzzard : I had the same impulse for white: (40 Qxb2), but the King is still too exposed to come back.>|
While i concur that the White king is exposed, i would probably go with Rc4 at the end of your line. The pieces then protect each other though the King will get more checks and it will be tough to defend the kingside pawns. Seems a tough ask after that though Black can perhaps be made to prove his win.
|Jan-28-13|| ||Marmot PFL: 40 Rc4 would keep the piece. So many players are out of time by then and have to play any move just to keep from flagging.|
|Jan-28-13|| ||snakebyt: Got it. Rb1+ KXR Qb2# Bishop has her back.|
|Jan-28-13|| ||chrisowen: He door bat in cook 40.rb1+ whence king lack,
bragging it now in give room for queen hoof in
gertrude goes kick 41.kxb1 row over sabbatical one?
|Jan-28-13|| ||chrisowen: Together b2 ink bullshine on again boat in meal i vested interest as to whether 8.g4 is any good info i eg rascal one together c7 you lesson a2 in tuck having ritz in c4 racker opportunity in fed ditto ok in dread it double in king chute am dilligent in debatable mashing have in bludgeonsee head in door too for cinch a plain read b1+ bush tuck b2 queen intent#|
|Jan-28-13|| ||LIFE Master AJ: 40...Rb1+; and 41...Qb2#.
(Hurray for Mondays.)
|Jan-28-13|| ||LIFE Master AJ: I went over the game, but I did not use an engine. It appears to be marvelous play by Adorjan.|
|Jan-28-13|| ||MountainMatt: Mate in 2 with 40...Rb1+|
|Jan-28-13|| ||kevin86: First, the queen must be chased...then the king must be decoyed to b1|
then ,the queen mates.
|Jan-28-13|| ||BOSTER: <AJ> <It appears to be marvelous play by Adorjan>.|
Is it possible to have such extra material like rook plus knight vs pawn even when white king without pawn protecting to lose the game?
If white had time to play 40.Qa4?, I guess he had enough time to play 40.Rc4, and white still with extra piece.
|Jan-28-13|| ||Kikoman: 40....Rb1+! 41. Kxb1 Qb2+#|
|Jan-28-13|| ||Penguincw: Well that was easier than I thought.|
|Jan-28-13|| ||The Last Straw: White could have won with 40.♖c4! ♖xa2 41.♖xc3 ♗xc3 42.♖d3 or 40.♕xb2! ♕xb2+ 41.♔d2.|
|Jan-28-13|| ||Nullifidian: 40... ♖b1+ 41. ♔xb1 ♕b2#|
|Jan-28-13|| ||LIFE Master AJ: <Boster> The key words were: "I did not use an engine ..."|
|Jan-28-13|| ||LIFE Master AJ: I also just quickly reviewed the game, the whole process took less than 10 minutes. (Most of my focus was on the opening.)|
|Jan-29-13|| ||Gambit All: I also think White could possibly have won with 39. Ke2, Rb2 40. Qxb2 Qxb2 41. Rc4, Qb5 42. Ne3. But I also thought Black played the opening very creatively starting with move 7; seized the initiative and put the pressure on his opponent. A good game.|
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