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|Dec-06-14|| ||diagonalley: this one has simply gotta be 'insane' ?! <diagonalley>: nul points|
|Dec-06-14|| ||morfishine: I had <18.Rxf6> to start and continued 18...gxf6 19.Nce4 Qd5 20.Qh5 Rf8 |
but here went with <21.Qh6> targeting <f6>
Of course, Kasparov's continuation 21.Rd1 is best, bringing the last piece into play with tempo
[I also had Black playing 19.Qd5 instead of 19.Qd4, so was selecting less than best moves for both sides] :(
|Dec-06-14|| ||Moszkowski012273: Simply 14...Kf8 would of kept the advantage blacks.|
|Dec-06-14|| ||Penguincw: I had 2 first moves: 18.Rxf6 and 18.Nce4 (I should've went with the more forcing one).|
|Dec-06-14|| ||poteite: M.Hassan: "Very Difficult"
White to play 18.?
White is a pawn down and has a Bishop for a Knight.
19.Nxe4 Qc6 ...
(?)I think if
18.Nce4 Nxe4 ?
18.Nce4 Nxe4 ?
18. Nce4 Q moves( )
|Dec-06-14|| ||castagno: sublime game|
|Dec-06-14|| ||kevin86: typical Saturday...On Monday, it is true and false; by Saturday, it is an essay exam. Kasparov really weilds his magic here.|
|Dec-06-14|| ||patzer2: As <Whiteshark> observes today's Saturday puzzle solution 18. Rxf6! is the follow-up to Kasparov's home preparation for 14. Bb5+!!|
The computers indicate Black's best after 14. Bb5+!! is 14...Kf8 (diagram below).
click for larger view
However, as <MrMelad> observed in his May 2010 post, survival even with the stronger defense 14...Kf8 is no easy task.
Indeed, Fritz 12 indicates White still forces the win here (i.e. after 14...Kf8) with 15. Rxf6! exd4
(15... gxf6 16. Bh6+ Ke7 17. Nf5+ exf5 18. Nd5+ ; 15... Bxd4 16. Bxd4 gxf6 17. Be3 Rg8 18. Ne4 Rg6 19. Bc5+ Kg8 20. Be8 b6 21. Bd6 Qd8 22. Bc6 Bd7 23. Bxa8 Qxa8 24. Qf3 Bc6 25. Nxf6+ Kg7 26. Qf2 Bxg2+ 27. Kh2 Qf3 28. Ne8+ Kg8 29. Qxf3 Bxf3 30. Rg1 )
16. Bh6! dxc3 17. Qf3! axb5 18. Rf1! Ke8 19. Rxf7 Qc6 20. Qh5! Qd5 21. Bg5! g6 22. Qh6 (+5.62 @ 20 depth)
when play might continue 22...Qd4 23. bxc3 Qxc3 24. Rxh7 Rg8 25. Rd1 Bd7 26. Rhxd7 Qh8 27. Qxh8 Rxh8 28. Rd8+ Rxd8 29. Rxd8+ Kf7 30. Rxh8 .
|Dec-06-14|| ||MissScarlett: Does Kasparov include this in his latest book?|
|Dec-06-14|| ||agb2002: White has a knight for a bishop and a pawn.
Black threatens 18... Qxd6.
The black king in the center and the possibility of launching an attack suggests 18.Rxf6 gxf6 (18... Kxf6 19.Nde4+ wins; 18... Qxd6 19.Rxf7+ wins; 18... Rd8 19.Rxf7#) 19.Nde4 followed by Qg4 with the idea of Qh4 and Rd1. The black queen must control d6 due to 20.Qd6+ Ke8 21.Nxf6#.
For example, 19... Qb6 20.Qg4 f5 21.Qh4+ Kd7 22.Rd1+ Kc7 23.Qf6 Kb8 (23... fxe4 24.Qxe5+ and mate next) 24.Qxe5+ Qc7 25.Qxh8 fxe5 26.Rd8 and White seems to have a considerable advantage.
That's all I can do today.
|Dec-06-14|| ||RookFile: In retrospect, we can say that black lost time with his knight in the opening, instead of developing other pieces and castling. This allowed an e5 thrust from white, backed up with tactics. Of course, this is all very deep, just in playing over the game, Anand's play looked fine to me. It's not like that ....Ne5 move isn't played in the Sicilian - it certainly is.|
|Dec-06-14|| ||TheaN: Saturday 6 December 2014 <18.?>|
White has sacrificed a pawn for center advantage with his knights, a rook and the queen. In order to keep tabs on the position white must make sure his outpost on d6 stays, whilst eliminating the defending queen and knight from play.
White has the simple plan of reloading d6 with 18.Nce4. Black should not capture on e4: 18....Nxe4? 19.Rxf7+ Kd8 20.Nxb7++ Ke8 21.Nxc5 Kxf7 22.Nxe4 wins easily for white. But the problem with this move is that, besides putting the black queen en prise, does not threaten much. The white rook's stress on f6 does not come into effect just because white positions a knight on e4: 18....Qd4!, blocking the d-file and now threatening Nxe4, seems to put white in a tough spot.
Instead, white has to turn around the move order and fire on f6 immediately: <18.Rxf6!> destroys the black position. The knight's defense of e4 is crucial. <18....gxf6> is forced, because after <18....Kxd6? 19.Ne4+<>>, or <18....Qxd6? 19.Rxf7+! Kxf7 20.Qxd6 <>>, and the rook and bishop are paralyzed against the centralized queen. Blocking the d-file now is too late, <18....Qd4? 19.Rxf7+! Kxd6 (Kd8 just concedes the knight on f6) 20.Nb5+ <>> and again the rook and bishop can't do much.
So, <18....gxf6>. Perhaps not black's best defense given the queen vs rook and bishop defenses we've seen earlier, but now white has to prove the exchange sacrifice is correct. <19.Nce4 Qc6> black should avoid putting the queen on the d-file is this variation, but she needs to keep control over d6 as well: after <19....Qe3? 20.Nxc8+!<>> white grabs the other weakness on d6 <20....Rxc8 21.Qd6+ Ke8 22.Nxf6#<>>. After the queen move, <20.Qh5!> white shows why the centralized knights are so strong. Black can only defend f7 with <20....Rf8>, but now <21.Qh4 > and f6 cannot be defended.
Here I stopped. White will invade with two knights and a queen, and later the rook, whereas the exchange advantage for black is just material that is now useless.
|Dec-06-14|| ||BOSTER: < RookFile: It's not like Ne5 move played in the Sicilian >.
Yes, but only when most pieces OK.|
|Dec-06-14|| ||TheaN: Okay, I did see the initial problem with a black 19....Qd4 but I missed that after white gets 21.Rd1 in with tempo white no longer has mate threats on d6, allowing 21....Qe3 then (instead of mating when played on move 19). It still wins by force when white retreats the queen (evaluating +7 after a short while) but this is very hard to visualize up front.|
Not sure if I had played Rd1 or Qh4. Qh4 is a way more easy invasion on f6 but definitely not as strong, white still has a clear edge (+1.7). Qh6 is slightly weaker, although 21....f5? 22.c3! is no possible defense black can play 21....b6 to prepare development. After 21.Rd1 though, white obliterates the black position.
Amazing prep by Kasparov.
|Dec-06-14|| ||Mendrys: After 14...Kf8 the following amusing position occurs during one line pointed out by patzer2 earlier, 14...Kf8 15. Rxf6 exd4 16 Bh6|
click for larger view
|Dec-06-14|| ||gofer: Well, we can line up the double check... 18 Ne4 Nxe4 19 Rxf7+ Kd8 20 Nxb7++|
But is black forced to take? Obviously not. So the queen has to move
but what next? I would suggest we give up Nd6 and start a huge attack
on Nf6 and Pf7 and drive the king into the d-file where Rad1 wins...
So lets look at the detail...
18 Nce4 ...
18 ... Nxe4 19 Rxf7+ Kd8 20 Nxb7++
Black has a lot of queen moves available, but I think all
the passive ones can be discarded leaving Qd5 and Qd4 neither or which I
like much! So even though I can't get to where I want to go I can see
a very nice continuation...
18 Nce4 Q not d4 or d5
19 Rxf6 gxf6
20 Qh5! Rf8
21 Qh6! ...
I like this continuation so much that I can discard the child like idea
of the double check and go for this instead.
<18 Rxf6! gxf6>
<19 Nce4 ...>
Now the queen has to move, but we really don't care where
because it must still protect against 20 Nxc8! Rxc8 21 Qd6+ Ke8 22 Nxf6#
So 19 ... Qe3 trying to get to the king-side of the board isn't available.
<19 ... Qc6>
<20 Qh5 Rf8>
<21 Rd1 ...>
I think we have time for this one move. It seals the black king's fate
and black is now deader than dead.
Ahhh. Black did manage to get the queen on the king-side after all!
So it shows what a fool I am! Anyway, I got the general idea, even if
I was nowhere near the switch back the queen side which is a finesse
that is just beautiful. Almost a rope-a-dope where the poor black
queen is forced to the king-side only to realise that the fight is
on the queen-side because Rf8 has walled the black king onto the
...really nice play by Gazza.
|Dec-06-14|| ||Moszkowski012273: Dude......|
|Dec-06-14|| ||TheBish: Kasparov vs Anand, 1991|
White to play (18.?) "Very Difficult", Black is up a pawn.
Candidate moves: Nce4, Rxf6
At first I thought both candidate moves were winning and equally good, and that in fact a transposition was possible after 18. Nce4 Qc7 (or other queen move, but not 18...Nxe4?? 19. Rxf7+ Kd8 20. Nxb7+ Ke8 21. Nxc5 Kxf7 22. Nxe4) 19. Rxf6 gxf6, but Black has a better defense here: 18...Qd5! or even 18...Qd4, when the attack is dead in its tracks, as the tempo White must spend to avoid the queen trade allows Black all the time he needs to defend. Thus, the other move is for choice!
18. Rxf6! gxf6
Forced, as 18...Qxd6 runs into 19. Rxf7+ Kxf7 20. Qxd6, and 18...Kxf6 loses the queen to a knight fork. Also, this move order avoids the proposed queen trade of the other line since 18...Qd4? loses a piece to 19. Rxf7+ Kd8, since 19...Kxd6?? loses the queen to 20. Nb5+. However, it seems that White is also winning after 18...Qd4 19. Qh5 as well, though maybe not as clearly.
19. Nce4! Qc7
The two knights are beasts in Black's camp, defending each other, with one attacking the weak square f7 and the other f6. The Exchange was a small price to pay for such a position!
20. Qh5 Rf8
Or 20...Kf8 21. Qh6+ Ke7 (21...Kg8?? 22. Nxf6#) 22. Qg7 Rf8 23. Rad1! and 24. Qxf6+ will set up a powerful discovered check with a knight move.
21. Qh4! and White has a winning attack. Next will come Rad1 and Qxf6+, followed by a discovered check from a knight move determined by Black's move.
Well, I failed to look at Black's better defense of 19...Qd4, but I did see 23. Qe1! and 24. Qc3! before seeing the moves in the game score!
|Dec-06-14|| ||CHESSTTCAMPS: Had the first few moves from the game, then had trouble deciding between 21.Rd1 and Qh4.|
Try playing the position against Crafty, which chooses a different defense:
|Dec-06-14|| ||M.Hassan: <poteite: instead,
18.Nce4 Nxe4 ?
18. Nce4 Q moves>
|Dec-06-14|| ||Cheapo by the Dozen: I started with the game move, couldn't make it work, and switched over to N(c3)e4 lines. I couldn't make those work either. :)|
|Dec-25-14|| ||paramount: cant believe this game isnt a GOTD yet|
|Jun-23-16|| ||iking: GOTD: Bastrikov's "Dance of the Knights"|
|Nov-24-16|| ||The Kings Domain: This is a dazzling victory by Kasparov, and against a player like Anand to top it off.|
|Jun-30-18|| ||Toribio3: Destroying the right to castle is the main theme of the game. In this way, it is easy to find the trees in the forest with the help of knight rangers dancing with impunity.|
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