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Apr-10-11
 | | dzechiel: White to move (17?). Black is up a pawn. "Insane." Chess buddy Seth is visiting this evening. We have been looking at the position for about 10 minutes, each suggesting an assortment of candidate moves. Right now we are looking seriously at
17 Bb2
mostly because it's so forcing. Black has little choice except to capture the proffered bishop, lest he himself go down a piece. 17...Qxb2 18 Rb1
On the queen. The only flight square for the queen is 18...Qc3 19 Rc1 Qb4 20 Rxc7
The black knight cannot take the bishop as white would mate on d7 with the queen. There is a threat here of 21 Bxe6, but black does have lots of moves to consider here. We are finding this line unconvincing, but in the process of persuading ourselves of this, we see another possible key-move: 17 Bxe6 Qxa1
If, instead, 17...Nxe6 18 Qd5 looks really good. For instance 18...Qxa1 19 Qxe6+ Be7 20 Ba3 winning the queen due to the mate threat. 18 Qg4
Threatening 19 Be3 as well as 19 Bd7+
OK, we have spent enough time on this. Time to throw in the towel and check the score. =====
Hmm..., the game transposed into our second line, but I'm not convinced that our move order is just as good as the text. We will leave it to those with silicon monsters to evaluate the play. Looking forward to Monday. |
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Apr-10-11
 | | scormus: As soon as I saw Kasparov - Anand I thought, this is going to be tough, I wont try to do it as I dont have much time today. I thought, I'll be content if I get W's first move and an idea of how its going. 17 Qg4 came immediately to mind but I didnt see enough ahead to be sure. Even wondered about 17 Bb2 as well. Completely defeated and still would have been if I had all day. |
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Apr-10-11
 | | sevenseaman: I vaguely remember this game and perhaps have it in one of my collections as well. Still, a bit embarrassingly, no clearly defined solution comes to mind. I do not think there was an immediate clickety-click mantra. I think Kasparov abandoned his R and went on to harass the exposed Black K. Later I think he used his Bs to put some pressure on Black's greedy Q. From memory and a modicum of logic, this is perhaps how it went; 17. Qg4 Qxa1 18. Bxe6 Rd8(forced) 19. Bh6 (the point of R sac)Qc3 20. Bxg7 Qd3 21. Bxh8 Qg6 22. Bf6 (protects e6B)indirectly. And thats about it. I think the game rambled on and I'll leave it better minds. If it turns out ok this far, I'll reserve my liberty to apply my mind further, uncluttered by memory as it will now be. |
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| Apr-10-11 | | JuliusDS: Why is 18...Rd8 forced? |
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Apr-10-11
 | | sevenseaman: <Why is 18..Rd8 forced.> White threatens an awkward B check on d7 as Black K move will invite White's DSB moving with tempo. |
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Apr-10-11
 | | morfishine: Perhaps this game is a little too well-known to use as a puzzle. White sacs the rook with <17.Qg4> Qxa1 18.Bxe6 (and black can't play 18...Nxe6 due to 19.Qxe6+ and black's position quickly falls apart)...Rd8 (forced) The final position is interesting to me: After the smoke has cleared, white trades down to parity then proceeds to dismantle black's position ending up 2-pawns ahead with a pawn-roller on the 5th rank. No credit for me today, but this in no way lessens my admiration for this game. |
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Apr-10-11
 | | morfishine: <inthestepsofTal> & <chessblind> and <others> One cannot label any one player as the "greatest". There is no agreeable metric to assign the title as "greatest". However, I believe the greatest feat in the history of chess is Fischer's win streak vs World-class competition (all grandmasters) leading up to the World Championship. People seem to have lost sight of the fact that Fischer had already won 7-games in a row before he blanked Taimanov 6-0, Larsen 6-0 and won the first game against Petrosian, for a total of 20-games in a row. Think about that: Winning 20-games in a row against World-Class grandmasters (no speed games) is so off-the-charts that it defies rational analysis. There other interesting records. For example, Tal holds the record for # games unbeaten: 47. He also holds the #2 record for games unbeaten: 44.
Does that make him the greatest?
How could one go about choosing the greatest chess player? Do we pick Lasker because he held the title the longest: 27 years? Or Botvinnik because he won the title the most times: 3. The answer is you can't because we are unable to compare players. We can only contrast players because they are all different. |
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Apr-10-11
 | | lost in space: Pfffff, I was not even close. I was looking at 17. Bb2 Qxb2 18. Rb1, but I was not making progress. Far beyond my horizon. Hoping for Monday |
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| Apr-10-11 | | takchess: I like having the occasional famous game as a puzzle. I set my chess clock for 20 minute and thunk.If I was in a game,I would of played Bd2.I had no great understanding of this position. |
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| Apr-10-11 | | zev22407: The idea was found by Tal in 1978 , when Tal was helping Karpov.
Kasparov came armed with chess program analysis |
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Apr-10-11
 | | pawn to QB4: <The idea was found by Tal in 1978 , when Tal was helping Karpov.> Yes, it's no surprise that such an amazing idea was ascribed to Tal, but I believe it was actually Zaitsev who came up with it. |
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Apr-10-11
 | | Once: On holiday last week, and the best-boy-in-the-world and I spent some time with a tracker. A woodsman. One of them ranger folks who sit puffing pipes in the back of crowded taverns waiting for little hobbits to draw far too much attention to themselves. It was a fascinating experience. He would look at a patch of ground and see a rabbit track passing from left to right. A fox - probably a young vixen - running at full speed, turning to the left whilst looking right. And - here - a deep indentation where she sprang up to vault over the lowest bars of a fence. We looked ... and saw nothing of the sort. Piles of leaves. The track of a mountain bike. Trees. Acorns. But as we spent time with the tracker we started to see more. A darker line in the leaves where something had walked by. A broken twig. A flurry of feathers where something avian had met its maker. Not up to Tonto standards, to be sure, but ... more ... more than before, more than our city eyes would normally focus on. And today's puzzle is a fine example of "what can you see?"  click for larger viewWith patzer-eyes we see that the Ra1 is en prise. We think about moving it or playing the Bc1 to somewhere to protect the Ra1 along the back rank. Then with kibitzer-eyes we focus on the Nd4 which is protected only by the black queen. Kick the black queen away and the knight will fall. And with the knight gone, we can dream about the pawn on e6. But the player of the white pieces is Kasparov of the woodland realm and he has the gift of second sight. He spots the weakness of the black king and the awkward placing of the Bf8. Black will take two moves to castle to safety, which is time enough for an attack. He also spots that black will take at least two moves to capture the Ra1. One to snaffle the booty and another to get the black queen out of the discovered attack if the Bc1 moves. Hence the sequence in the game - 17. Qg4 Qxa1 18. Bxe6. The bishop cannot be taken as 18...Nxe6 19. Qxe6+ leads to mate or massive material advantage. 18...Rd8 Not the best. Fritz prefers 18...Qc3 but it takes cojones of steel (or silicon) to allow 19. Bd7+ Kf7. 19. Bh6 The threat is not so much Rxa1 as 19...gh 20. Qh5+ Ke7 21. Qf7#. Gruesome. 19...Qc3 20. Bxg7 And again 20...Bxg7 loses to the same Qh5+ mating trick. And when the dust settles, white has won a pawn and has two connected passers. Exchange off all the pieces to an endgame win. What impresses is the amount that Kasparov sees - or that his home preparation saw. The weakness of the black king trapped in the centre of the board. The time it would take for black to snaffle the a1 rook and emerge safely from the back rank. The mating threats which would give white time to stuff his bishops down black's throat. These are the tiny tracks that a GM or world champion spots, but the rest of us don't even notice. Sometimes the more we learn, the more we realise how much we don't yet know. Aragorn: Are you frightened?
Frodo: Yes.
Aragorn: Not nearly frightened enough. I know what hunts you. |
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Apr-10-11
 | | hedgeh0g: Got it immediately.
But I'm familiar with the game, so... ;D |
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Apr-10-11
 | | sevenseaman: How about this;
17. Qg4 Qxa1 18. Bxe6 Rd8 19. Bh6 Qc3 20 Bxg7 Qd3 21. Bxh8 Ne2+ Kh1 22. Ng3+ hg 23. Qxf1+ Kh2 24. Qd3 and Black should not lose from here;  click for larger view |
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| Apr-10-11 | | JG27Pyth: I didn't get it hardly needs saying -- but Rybka probably scratches her head for a while on this one -- sure looks like 2800 chess to me! |
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Apr-10-11
 | | thegoodanarchist: <Lennonfan: This is third only after the topalov 99 game,and karpov game 16, 85 WC game in my all time fav Kasparov games...absolutely brilliant...eat your heart out bobby!> Game of the Century: Bobby Fischer, age 13.
Eat your heart out Gary and everyone else who ever played! |
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Apr-10-11
 | | Domdaniel: <sevenseaman> A nice try, but 21...Ne2+ 22.Kh1 Ng3+ 23.hxg3 Qxf1+ 24.Kh2 Qd3 ... leads to 25.Bf5, and White soon wins. |
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| Apr-10-11 | | Penguincw: Wow.A rook sac.I was thinking of the more calm 17. e3 (see diagram 1) for the following reasons:1.It's dealing with the first threat I noticed,which was winning the rook on a1.White is now protecting the rook twice now. 2.It develops a piece.
3.It develops with a threat,the knight on d4 is now hit twice.Also,if the knight tries to capture the bishop on b3 with 17... xb3 (see diagram 2) after 18.axb3 (see diagram 3) , white has given up the bishop pair,but as compensation,as a half open file for his rook on a1 to attack the weak a6 pawn. Diagram 1
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Apr-10-11
 | | kingfu: Kasparov is +18 over 77 games with Anand.
Any questions? |
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| Apr-10-11 | | Penguincw: < kingfu: Kasparov is +18 over 77 games with Anand. Any questions? >
Nope (for now). |
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Apr-10-11
 | | David2009: Kasparov vs Anand, 1995 White 17? Missed it completely. Here's the puzzle position:
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and here's a link on Crafty End Game Trainer:
http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t...
The EGT copies Anand's moves until move 21, when it varies with 21...Ne2+
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which also loses (but differently).
It is difficult to believe that this combination can be sound, so here's a link to the position colours -reversed to try to defend it:
http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t... With Crafty EGT positions you are always White: drag and drop the move you want to make. |
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Apr-10-11
 | | sevenseaman: <Domdaniel: <sevenseaman> A nice try, but 21...Ne2+ 22.Kh1 Ng3+ 23.hxg3 Qxf1+ 24.Kh2 Qd3 ... leads to 25.Bf5, and White soon wins.> Thanks. I was refuting 25. Bf5 with Qd1 but 26. f3 cuts off the Black Q and White with two Bs and the Q mates soon enough. Failures end up removing lots of cobwebs, ironically. |
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Apr-10-11
 | | patzer2: For today's insanely difficult Sunday puzzle, we are treated to a Kasparov world championship win over Anand, which involves a combination of theory, opening preparation and no doubt a little over the board inspiration by the long reigning former world champion. The move 17. Qg4!! as observed by <Jimfromprovidence> and others may not lead to a forced win with best play after the more cautious reply 17...Be7 18. Qxg7 0-0-0 19. Be3 . However, it still gives White practical winning chances and a strong initiative, which is all Kasparov really wanted in the first place. The game may also reflect Kasparov's accurate assessment of his opponent, in that he probably figured Anand would not shrink from playing aggressively with 17...Qxa1, which may have put Kasparov into some of his opening preparation with 18. Bxe6. Even after some extensive analysis with the computer, I'm still not sure at what point Kasparov had a forced win. However, it does give one an appreciation of the extreme difficulty of the game at the highest levels, where the solving of clearly won positions is not so much of a problem. The real difficult of the game is in the exploration of the unclear and the unknown, where a combination of opening preparation, understanding of the personality of the opponent and the kind of aggressive or conservative moves they're likely to make, and a grasp of all aspects of the game from openings to middle games and end games must be mastered. Kasparov's style of aggressive play also made the game more difficult, as it's easier to sit back and play for draws than it is to play aggressively, take risks and push for the win. Bravo Kasparov! |
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| Apr-10-11 | | Jim Bartle: They'd played this game through move 13 in Game 6. Kasparov had found 14. Bc2 in analysis afterward, and actually blamed his game 9 loss (the first decisive game, after David Letterman had made fun of the match for being so dull) on thinking too much about the variation he played here in game 10. |
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Apr-10-11
 | | agb2002: Not a puzzle but chess culture. This famous game has been analyzed a number of times, for example http://www.sahovski.co.rs/other/ind...
http://www.tabladeflandes.com/zenon... or in Igor Stohl's "Garry Kasparov's Greatest Chess Games". |
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