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N Nathan vs Adolf Anderssen
Berlin (1850), Berlin GER
King's Gambit: Accepted. Kieseritsky Gambit Long Whip (C39)  ·  0-1


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Jan-22-04  n0rthf4ce: i think Qxd3 eventually forces white to lose his queen to avoid mate as well.
Jan-22-04  mrvocab: 23 Nxf3 is met by 23... Nxe1 25 Nxe1 Qxe1+ 26 Kg2 Bxf4. Black is up an entire rook.
Jan-22-04  PizzatheHut: <What are black's best ways to win after 23 Nxf3 or 23 Ne4?> After 23. Nxf3, I think it would go something like 23...Nxe1 24. Nxe1 Qxe1+ when black is up the exchange. As for 23. Ne4, it looks like the continuation would be 23...Nxe1 24. Nxd6 Nxc2 25. Nxe8+ Rxe8 when black is again up the exchange.
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  crafty: 23. ♘xf3 ♘xe1 24. ♘xe1 ♕xe1+ 25. ♕f2 ♖e8   (eval -3.12; depth 14 ply; 500M nodes)
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  Honza Cervenka: I don't understand 19...Qe8. Why not 19...f5 threatening Qxh4? 20.Kxg3 doesn't help much for 20...Ng6 21.Rh1 Bxe6 and black wins.
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  Calli: 22.Nd2?? is just a big mistake. White looks better prior to that. Maybe 22.Qe4? I agree with Honza on 19...Qe8.
Jan-22-04  dorn: <Calli: Maybe 22.Qe4?> I think 22.Qf5! (threatening Ne6+) wins the game. Both 19...Qe8 and 22.Nd2 were fatal blunders.
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  kevin86: a fabulous finish!! Black was ready to strike,while white was just marking time,who wins? three guesses,first two don't count.
Jan-22-04  hart: There are times when, even after I give up on the puzzle and click on the solution, I don't see how that particular move constitutes a coup de grāce. Consequently, I am grateful for your commentaries on the implications of the puzzle's solution. I learn a lot from you folks. Thanks.
Jan-22-04  slapwa: dorn: <Calli: Maybe 22.Qe4?> I think 22.Qf5! (threatening Ne6+) wins the game.

23. Ne6+ isn't a threat because of 23 ..., Qxe6 24. Qxe6, Nd3+, but Qf5 followed by Na3 should be fine. White should win so long as he doesn't let anything silly happen on the h2-b8 diagonal.

Jan-22-04  boobsmacfadin: what is wrong with 9 gxf3
Jan-22-04  technical draw: If 9.gxf3 then 9..gxf3 and white's king is wide open. 9.g3 and then Kf2,was a good try by to find some safety, but alas, to no avail.
Jan-22-04  Calchexas: dorn: "The winner of the game is he who makes the next to last blunder."

And this was an easy one. Nd3 was rather obvious; the only hard part was making sure it works.

Jan-22-04  technical draw: Is white the famous (infamous?) NN ?
Jan-22-04  TrueFiendish: LOL. The organisers finally managed to get his surname before he slipped off to his next (fateful) encounter.
Jan-22-04  boobsmacfadin: 9 gx f3 gxf3 10 Qxf3 Bg4 11 Q f4 possibly followed by R f1 in the future seems to give white a good attack... i dunno maybe i am missing something, but i think allowing the f3 g4 h5 pawn chain weakens whites kingside even more, completely takes out his queen from the game and stops all chance of counter play.
Jan-22-04  technical draw: <boobs> OK Maybe if 9.gxf3 then 9..Be7 and its a different ballgame.
Jan-22-04  boobsmacfadin: okay...9 gxf3? Be7!
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  Calli: "technical draw: Is white the famous (infamous?) NN ?"

No, but after this game he quit chess and opened a hot dog stand in New York. Only then did he become "famous". 8-)

Jan-22-04  technical draw: Got it! Pretty cool!
Jan-23-04  dorn: <slapwa: 23. Ne6+ isn't a threat because of 23 ..., Qxe6 24. Qxe6, Nd3+> 25. Qxd6.
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  heuristic: mo' better moves:

13.Bf4 Nxh4 14.Bxd6+ Qxd6 15.gxh4 g3+

13...Nxh4 14.gxh4 Qxh4+ 15.Ke3 c5 16.c3

16.Nc3 cxd4 17.Ne4 Be5 18.Qd3 Na6

18...Ng6 19.Bxf5 Bxf5 20.Be3 Nx4 21.Bxf4

19.Bxc8 Re8 20.Ne6+ Rxe6 21.Bxe6 Ng6

Dec-09-11  rilkefan: Well, the obvious ...Nd3 looks crushing. Qxd3 is too awful to contemplate. Maybe Re4 is a defense: but ...Bxf4+ forces Rxf4 and then the black queen reaches e1 again. Ne4 projects e1 at least; then I suppose ...Nxe1 and the endgame is won for black if Nxd6; maybe there's still some messiness on Qb1 instead. Well, maybe 23.Ne4 f2. If 24.Nxf2 Qxe1, and if 25.Qxd3 Qg1#. Otherwise white is dropping the Ne4 and the kside attack continues.

Was going to say this was a trivial Thursday but the variations after Nd3 were tougher than I thought they'd be.

Jul-15-12  latvalatvian: Why did white lose this game?
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  kevin86: Unexpected: white can win the queen, but immediate mate is the penalty.
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