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|Apr-11-10|| ||eddisn: Randomness is scary! After watching this game, I immediately set up a 3m blitz between Morphy and Anderssen in Chessmaster: GM Edition (which is a great program). |
The result left me shocked. After 8 seconds of thinking by Anderssen and 1(!) second by Morphy, they had reached the EXACT same game as here! of course, "Morphy" went on to win, as seen in the PGN below. Has anyone got an idea of how this may occur?
Btw, this is my first kibitzing;)
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1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.Nxd4 e6 5.Nb5 d6 6.Bf4 e5 7.Be3 f5 8.N1c3 f4 9.Nd5 fxe3 10.Nbc7+ Kf7 11.Qf3+ Nf6 12.Bc4 Nd4
13.Nxf6+ d5 14.Bxd5+ Kg6 15.Qh5+ Kxf6 16.fxe3 Nxc2+ 17.Ke2
However, the computer doesn't give up
Qxc7 18.Raf1+ Ke7 19.Rf7+ Kd6 20.Rxc7 Kxc7 21.Rc1 Bd6 22.Qf7+ Kb6
23.Rxc2 Rb8 24.Qxg7 Rd8 25.Qh6 Bg4+ 26.Ke1 Rbc8 27.Rxc8 Bxc8 28.Qxh7 Bd7 29.Qg7 Bc6 30.Bxc6 Kxc6 31.Ke2 Rd7 32.Qf6 Rc7 33.h4 Kd7
34.h5 Rc2+ 35.Kd3 Rxg2 36.h6 Rxb2 37.Qg7+ Kc6 38.Qg1 Kb5 39.a4+ Kb4 40.h7 Rb3+ 41.Ke2 Bc5 42.h8=Q Rxe3+ 43.Qxe3 Bxe3 44.Kxe3 b5
45.Qxe5 a6 46.Kd3 Kb3 47.Qc5 Kxa4 48.Kc3 a5 49.Kb2 b4 50.Qc6# 1-0
|Jun-06-10|| ||kingmundi: 14.Bxd5+ Ke7 15.Qh5 gxf6 16.Qf7+ Kd6
Given what happened in the game, and Morphy's style for opening lines, developing pieces... I have to wonder if he wouldn't bother taking the rook in the corner with his knight. Taking the rook seems to take a lot of the dynamic out of the position. What would happen if he went with the thematic fxe3, similar to what happened in the game.
17.fxe3 Nxc2+ 18.Kf2 Qxc7 19.Qxf6+ Kd7 20.Rhd1
This seems more like Morphy to me. It is dangerous to provide long variations as fact, so the following is just fantasy quick computer analysis.
20... Qb6 21.Be6+ Kc7 22.Kc6 Qd8+
White can force a draw here.
This seems more like Morphy, forcing the king out into open lines.
24.b4+ Nxb4 25.Rac1+ Kb5 26.Qe8+ Ka5 27.Qxe5 Bc5 28.Bf7 Rf8
29.Rxc5+ Ka4 30.Kg1 Rxf7 31.a3
Exploiting the lack of safety for the King and the Queen
|Jun-06-10|| ||kingmundi: Another line, computer engines don't pick up on right away... More forcing than the 23.Bd5+ above|
23.Bd7+ Kc5 24.b4+ Kc4 25.Bb5+ Kxb5 26.a4+
|Feb-24-11|| ||Llawdogg: Game Nine of the Match to Mr. Morphy. He has won six of the last seven games and the match is almost over. (6 wins, 1 loss, 2 draws). Two games left.|
|Jun-22-11|| ||DrMAL: Morphy plays unofficial world champion Anderssen and blows him off the board. 6.Bf4 is not "correctly played" as the annotation states (6.c4 or 6.Be2 are probably better) but it is a viable option to provoke 6...e5 with an equal game from here.|
7...f5 was inaccurate as annotated, where black normally plays 7...Nf6 or 7...Be6 or 7...a6 and white goes on correctly with 8.N1c3 to gain solid advantage.
9.Nd5 is part of a best continuation that Morphy brilliantly plays. In fact, both play best moves until 11.Qf3+ where Morphy risks his advantage by avoiding the best move 11.Nxa8 for potentially greater gain. Such a decision is egotistical but with good reason, Morphy was simply much better than anyone else in the world.
The decision quickly pays off. Both players make their best moves until black blunders with 14...Kg6 (14...Ke7 was necessary) and Morphy annihilates him. It must have been a huge humiliation!
|Jan-27-12|| ||TVCHESS3JAQUES: 14...Ke7!? 15.Qh5! gxh6 16.Qf7+ Kd6 17.Nxa8
The complications have yet to be favorable to Viktor Moskalenko white
Las complicaciones aśn deben resultar favorables a las blancas Viktor Moskalenko
|Feb-24-12|| ||dionysisgalanis: The mistake was ...14.Kg6. The correct move is ...14.Qxd5!|
|Jul-30-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:
Morphy vs Anderssen, 1858.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF MORPHY.
Your score: 19 (par = 18)
|Aug-15-12|| ||drpavno1: Nothing would have been ground breakinh even if black had played 14.....Ke7 as white would have moved Qh5 with an attack on f7 and e5 both resulting in check and ultimately mate.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||TheTamale: I have NEVER UNDERSTOOD this game. The assumption is the finish is a slam-dunk for White. Why can't Black just take the rook, weather a barrage of checks, and emerge way ahead in material? Does White have some decisive way of preventing that? (Or am I just that much better than Anderssen, Morphy, and every commentator who's ever lived? Hmm...)|
|Apr-14-13|| ||disasterion: <TheTamale> After 17 ... Nxa1, white has 18.Rf1+ Ke7 19.Qxe5+|
Then either 19 ... Be6 20.Qxe6#
or 19 ... Kd7 20.Be6+ Kc6 21.Rc1+ Kb6 (21 ... Bc5 22.Qxc5#) 22.Qb5#
|Apr-14-13|| ||TheTamale: <disasterion>: Thanks so much; you are my new hero.|
|Apr-15-13|| ||disasterion: <TheTamale> Why thank you.|
Now you've said that I can confess that it took me longer to find than I'd expected, and it's not such an obvious resignation as it first appears.
|Mar-20-14|| ||RookFile: This game looks like a Tal effort from white.|
|Jul-26-14|| ||Xeroxx: Impressive.|
|Sep-23-14|| ||vincepawn: nimh Nov 14.07 / identifies 2 mistakes by Anderssen using Rybka analysis. But the moves Anderssen plays (move ...14 and move ...16) have higher Rybka ratings than the moves recommended.|
Typos? What's going on?
|Sep-23-14|| ||nimh: Scores are given from white's perspective.|
|Oct-11-15|| ||The Kings Domain: Boy, Anderssen looked like a patzer there. It's no surprise his tournament record improved after this match; he certainly learned a lot from games like this!|
|May-16-17|| ||Mr. Blonde: I just put Morphy and Anderssen personalities to play against each other in the Chessmaster GM Edition and they recreated exactly this game... Weird.|
|Jun-05-17|| ||User not found: I can't quite believe black, one of the greatest players of his era took the Bishop on move 9!? My inner monologue went full Admiral Ackbar screaming "It's a trap, it's a Trap!", lol.|
|Jun-05-17|| ||moronovich: <User not found: I can't quite believe black, one of the greatest players of his era took the Bishop on move 9!? My inner monologue went full Admiral Ackbar screaming "It's a trap, it's a Trap!", lol.>|
Back in these days they often ate everything you throw in their mouth.It was a question of honour and principles.
|Jun-05-17|| ||User not found: <moronovich: <User not found: I can't quite believe black, one of the greatest players of his era took the Bishop on move 9!? My inner monologue went full Admiral Ackbar screaming "It's a trap, it's a Trap!", lol.>
Back in these days they often ate everything you throw in their mouth.It was a question of <honour and principles.>>|
Honor and principles!? For what? The lack of intelligence, foresight and chess understanding to see you'll be chopped liver in under 7 moves, straight out of the opening! I guess after playing the head scratching f5? in the first place <against a well known tactical genius renowned for those king side attacks,!!> then f4 he may as well but he threw this game away quicker than I would lose. Real talk!
|Jun-05-17|| ||moronovich: <Unf>
Back in these day you were sometimes seen as a pussy if you didn“t accept the sacrifice.
|Jun-05-17|| ||keypusher: < moronovich: <User not found: I can't quite believe black, one of the greatest players of his era took the Bishop on move 9!? My inner monologue went full Admiral Ackbar screaming "It's a trap, it's a Trap!", lol.>
Back in these days they often ate everything you throw in their mouth.It was a question of honour and principles.>|
I don't think that's true, at least not in serious match games. Loewenthal regularly declined Morphy's King's Gambit in their match, for example. Anderssen didn't try to hang on to the d-pawn here.
|Jun-05-17|| ||moronovich: <I don't think that's true, at least not in serious match games.>|
I was talking in general.
Fortunately chess has moved on since then.But it takes time and effort.
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