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Vladimir Bagirov vs Eduard Gufeld
"The Mona Lisa" (game of the day Sep-11-07)
Kirovabad sf ch-URS 1973  ·  King's Indian Defense: Saemisch Variation. Yates Defense (E83)  ·  0-1
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Aug-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Robed.Bishop: Well, I don't use the ignore feature, as I noted on another page recently, and I don't know that I've been insulted here or even if he was addressing me.

Doesn't really matter one way or the other, I was just curios about what he meant. I have no desire to escalate the exchange or to discard my new-found anonymity.

Aug-15-12  andrewjsacks: <Robed.Bishop> Well, I DO often use the ignore feature--but not as often as the girls in my high school obviously did...
Aug-15-12
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  TheFocus: I don't see <AJ> making enough posts on the pages I visit for me to put him on Ignore.

Since the suspension, and shut down of his pages, he doesn't post as much as he did before.

Thank the gods for small favors!

Aug-15-12
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  perfidious: Tonight I'll pay homage to Quetzalcoatl.
Aug-15-12
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  Robed.Bishop: <andrewjsacks> I'm pleased to see, by the mere fact of your post, that I haven't made your ignore list.

Praise to you, sir, praise to you indeed!

Aug-16-12
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  perfidious: <andrew> There was a Shirelles song, 'Foolish Little Girl'-seems to fit in the plural here.

Ah, if they only knew.

Aug-16-12
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  hedgeh0g: <<AJ: whoopee, another idit PF, poc troll.> What's an "idit PF, poc troll." Anybody?>

I assume AJ was trying to communicate with the Martians.

Unfortunately, they're only interested in making contact with <intelligent> life.

Aug-16-12
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  DIO: So, is this about people not believing that Gufeld's game is worthy of praise or is it about people disliking AJ's work? So I am clear ... If it is the first, then the arguments are poor IMO. If it is the second, please take it outside of this page ...
Aug-16-12
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  LIFE Master AJ: All I wanted to know is what the average fan thought ... was this game a worthy candidate for a web page?

Obviously, no one (but trolls) care to comment, or so it would seem.

Aug-16-12
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  HeMateMe: What is the connection between you and this game, AJ? Did you annotate it somewhere?
Aug-16-12
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  DIO: Personally, given by how many times this games appears on game collections, I would say it is totally worth a web page.
Aug-16-12
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  TheFocus: <DIO> Perhaps you may want to go and view some of <AJ>'s previous videos before you begin defending him.

Then, I bet you change your mind and slink back under your rock.

Aug-16-12
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  KKDEREK: <LIFE Master AJ: All I wanted to know is what the average fan thought ... was this game a worthy candidate for a web page? Obviously, no one (but trolls) care to comment, or so it would seem.>

I think is definitely worthy..But I'd like to see analysed from a <real> chess annalist.

Aug-16-12
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  MarkFinan: "I know that If anyone can beat ME In under 40 moves (ESPECIALLY when the first 15-2O moves are power book moves)...... I have come accross an engine user.

I have worked for several!!!!! Servers detecting engine use "

- AJ Goldsby I chess.com

Aug-16-12
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  Jim Bartle: I disagree with that assessment. Some people study chess really hard and can get booked up in hundreds of variations. (I'm a lousy player, yet I used to know a bunch of variations to 15-20 moves in the Najdorf and Meran as black.) Playing theory for that long isn't proof of a computer user by itself. The opponent may just have happened to memorize the line.
Aug-16-12
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  MarkFinan: Even I can knock out 15 moves In some Ruy Lopez and QGD and QGA variations In under 30 seconds, but Iv'e seen and been through so many games since I joined this site that I think I could get to 8-9 moves without blinking In most opening variations nowadays, but only If I'm playing seriously and not experimenting.. Don't make me a Master or a cheat though..
Aug-17-12
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  DIO: <TheFocus>, you want me to "slink back under my rock"? You think I am defending AJ?

I think you got things wrong my friend ...

No, I have NOT watched ANY of AJ's videos, but I think that in a free world he can solicit an opinion about a web page. Apparently, I fell right in the middle of a conflict here. Funny thing is, after I looked at some of your old posts, I found out several facts:

1-. You are usually a polite guy to others, so I will not respond in the same way you attacked me. I think I got you in a hot-headed mood.

2-. All AJ's games I looked into, the kibitzing is blocked, so there is obviously something going on here and AJ's comments and actions cause a lot of controversy ...

3-. In the famous Kasparov vs. Topalov 1999 game, you praised AJ's video in an older kibitz, so I don't know what happened between the 2 of you since then.

And remember, in a free world, people have the right to disagree with each other. And as long as things are civil, that's OK. And I respect - and will defend - your right to dislike my posts. Just stay civil please.

And finally, I will repeat my statement: This specific Gufeld game is worthy of plenty of mention and praise.

Peace

Aug-17-12
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  Robed.Bishop: <DIO> I see that you have been a member here for quite some time, active during the Troop wars, although a somewhat infrequent poster.

There is indeed a reason those doors are closed, and just like in the movies, some doors should never be opened...

Aug-17-12
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  DIO: I hear you Mr. Bishop :-) and thanks for the feedback!

I will stay clear of any conflicts then. I'm here for chess only.

Cheers!

Aug-17-12
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  LIFE Master AJ: <DIO> Thanks for the comments. Several e-mails (I could post them here, but I won't.) show that others feel the same way.

So it seems - as you say, the general consensus is that this IS a beautiful game, very well played, and GM Gufeld apparently considered it the "best game of my life" - this, along with the number of times that this game has appaered in various game collections ... ... ...

I would say that this means the game has merit and deserves a web page of it's own.

As for the failed author, he is on ignore and have absolutely nothing to say to him ... he isn't worth my time or my trouble.

Aug-18-12
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  TheFocus: <DIO> <1-. You are usually a polite guy to others, so I will not respond in the same way you attacked me. I think I got you in a hot-headed mood.>

Yes, it was a bad mood thing. I could have been more polite. My apologies.

Aug-18-12
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  TheFocus: <Several e-mails (I could post them here, but I won't.) show that others feel the same way.>

Not a single person on this site sent <AJ> an e-mail saying they wanted to see his video. If so, why are they afraid to publicly say, "Yeah, <AJ>, let's see it!"

No one. Nada. The e-mails are in his imagination, as usual.

<DIO> Unfortunately, you may not have seen the mocking parodies I did about <AJ>'s videos. The admins deleted them.

In regard to praising an <AJ> video, that was not praise but sarcasm. I have never sat through more than 2 minutes of one of his videos. Too amateurish, too crappy. Too full of himself.

<AJ> is the site clown. A complete joke and a waste of time. He imagines that he will one day be a Grandmaster. This will never happen. He can't even get a FIDE title.

But, this has all been said before. By me and by others that can see through this monkey and a charade of a master.

Nov-07-12
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  kingscrusher: I have no idea why I had not video annotated this game before - could not find it, so I video annotated it just now :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dj4...

I hope some insights are good from this video - especially as I like playing the Kings Indian Defence myself :)

Nov-07-12  LovingFischer: fantastic game
May-06-13
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  Check It Out: Lots of great tactical moves to feast the eyes on here.
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