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|Oct-12-05|| ||WannaBe: Did not get it... didn't even come close! =(|
|Oct-12-05|| ||tjshann: I guess Black had 16 Qg5 but it is ugly having the White rook on the seventh rank.|
|Oct-12-05|| ||Dudley: Nice example of an diversionary exchange sacrifice followed by a nasty double threat -either give up the Queen or the King.|
|Oct-12-05|| ||yataturk: What if 17 ... g6 ??
sure 18 Nxh6+ but can't see a clear continuation...
|Oct-12-05|| ||snowie1: First the black Q was in hot water, then, the R walked into the same mess. Time to check out what else is happening at the site.|
|Oct-12-05|| ||RdpC: 17... g6 mate in two!
18. Qxg6+ Kh8 19. Qg7#
|Oct-12-05|| ||Marius: 27...gxh6 28 f6 bxf6 29 Qxd7|
|Oct-12-05|| ||SamuelS: I got it, but the critical continuation would be 16...Qg5! protecting the other bishop. Then 17. h4 Qf4 18. Qxf4 Bxf4 19. Rxc7 wins a pawn. I think trying to trap the bishop does not quite work: 19. g3 g6! 20. Ne7+ (other moves lose the knight) Nxe7 21. Rxe7 Bd2 22. Rd7 Rad8 saves the bishop although 23. Rxc7 still loses at least a pawn and leaves the queenside weak. Does anyone find an improvement? I often miss obvious moves.|
|Oct-12-05|| ||prinsallan: I was way off today...
Was looking for a knight-move, but that was crushed badly.
|Oct-12-05|| ||DWINS: <SamuelS>, Instead of trading queens, I think White should play 18.Qh5 threatening 19.Qg6|
I think Black then has to move his king to get out of the pin, but White is clearly better after 18...Kh8 19.Bxf7. Black's king looks mighty vulnerable.
|Oct-12-05|| ||SamuelS: You are right <DWINS>, 18. Qh5 seems very strong. It threatens g3, Qg6 and Bxf7. Black cannot stop them all. For example: 18...Bxb2 19. Qg6 Qxf4 20. exf5 Bxa1 21. f6 or 18...Kh8 19. g3! (I think this is better than Bxf7) Qxe4 20. Rxc1 |
|Oct-12-05|| ||sfm: Those with a materialistic view on matters can on 16.-,Qg5 play the simple 17.g3, then 18.h4 will end the life of the stray-bishop:|
17.-,g6 18. h4,Qf6 19.Ne7+,Kg7 20.Qxf6+,Kxf6 21.Nxc6, bxN 22.Rxc1
17.-,Bf4 18.h4,Qg6 19.Kh1
|Oct-12-05|| ||logo: Difficult...|
|Oct-12-05|| ||pinakin8: The best that I could come up with was Ra1xB after few minutes of thinking; so to test it, I setup the position in Fritz...It took about 3 nanoseconds to comeup with the best line.
IMO we've created a MONSTER.
|Oct-12-05|| ||Fezzik: I found Rxd7! intending Qg4! almost instantly but thought I was missing some sort of forced mate and looked for about five minutes longer than I needed to. |
Still, this is a nice combination that creates an unusual balance of forces. White maintains a strong initiative, but the combination may have been difficult for some people to find.
|Oct-12-05|| ||molle2006: Argh... I tried something like Bxf7+ in order to fork the queen.|
|Oct-12-05|| ||rishi: I got it...black is devastated on the king side...powerful bishop a knight and a queen against literally nothing to support the poor king..|
|Oct-12-05|| ||misantrooppi: sfm, I was wondering the same 16. ..♕g5 , I would have played h4 first, and then g3 but I guess it doesn't make any difference. Still I wonder why black did not go for this ? The game continuation seems worse.|
|Oct-12-05|| ||SamuelS: <misantrooppi>, look at my previous analysis: 16...Qg5 17. h4 Qf4 18. Qh5! and White is winning by threatening g3 and Qg6. I think the game continuation is the best Black can do after all.|
|Oct-12-05|| ||misantrooppi: <SamuelS> oh, didn't see that. Thanks for pointing it out.|
|Oct-12-05|| ||DanRoss53: I got 16. ♖xd7! ♕xd7 17. ♕g4 ♕xf5 18. exf5 -- I think that's close enough to consider the puzzle "solved".|
|Oct-12-05|| ||DanRoss53: After 16. ♖xd7 ♕g5 17. h4 ♕f4 18. ♕h5 (as noted by <DWINS> and <SamuelS>), White has a won game. Crafty suggests: 18. ... ♔h8 19. ♗xf7 ♘b8 20. ♕g6 ♕xf5 21. ♕xf5 ♗xb2 22. ♖ad1 ♘xd7 23. ♖xd7 ♖ad8 24. ♖xc7 ♖d1+ 25. ♔h2 ♖d2 26. ♖xb7 ♗xc3 at a depth of 13 giving White a 6.54 point advantage.|
|Oct-12-05|| ||child of my tears: I looked at 16.Qg3 first but Bg5 refutes the attack so I looked for a way to gain a tempo in moving the queen...Rxd7 was obvious from there. My chess has come on so much in the past two weeks, watching the WCC and listening to Yasser Seirawann and Andrew Martin's commentary. Anybody else been doing this?|
|Oct-12-05|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: Wow, quite a difficult puzzle for Wednesdays! I didn't get it. Great combination though!|
|Oct-12-05|| ||dakgootje: Im afraid i cant say i did solve it...I did consider it but didnt see much benefit of it so I looked instead of that for things like 16.♗xf7 ♔xf7 17. ♘xh6 but it all wasnt forced and strong enough|
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