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|May-19-12|| ||Llawdogg: Wow! Great game. Spectacular debut.|
|Oct-31-12|| ||Conrad93: I have adopted Lasker's opening system with great success. The problem is that all of my opponents automatically go for attack.|
|Dec-24-12|| ||zakkzheng: This is a classical 2 bishop sacrifice attack|
|Jul-05-13|| ||tzar: This game shows the true genius of Lasker.
Not only he conceived the idea of the double bishop sacrifice but must have seen that black, even after sacrificing queen (only move) was left with clear material advantage, so at the same time he had to foresee Qd7 which wins one of the two black bishops, and even after that the final blow of the game is brilliant.
To conceive all this in one game, more than 100 years ago at age of roughly 20 is not human. Not bad for a coffee house player.
|Jul-05-13|| ||Nerwal: I don't think Lasker needed to see ♕d7 to play the double bishop sac (I am not saying he didn't foresee it). White would get a winning game by continuing the attack with 22. ♖f1 or, maybe more precisely, 22. ♕h3+ ♔g7 23. ♕g3+ ♔h7 24. ♖f1. With ♕ and 2 ♙ for 2 ♗ and ♖ white isn't even material down anyway.|
|Jul-05-13|| ||tzar: ...Probably Qd7 is not the only way to win, the king was in the open air crying for help already, but Lasker found the most practical and instructive way to win (probably foreseen before the combination) and finishing with an almost sadistic queen sac...not a good day for Bauer|
|Oct-03-13|| ||Maladetta: <Schach and Awe> You should check out "The Art of Attack" by Vukovic. Sometimes long-winded, but good discussions on accurate sacs and attacks|
|Oct-03-13|| ||JimNorCal: A great story reprinted in wikipedia is below. A lot of drama in the Hauptturnier event.
"Lasker shot up through the chess rankings in 1889, when he won the Café Kaiserhof's annual Winter tournament 1888/89 and the Hauptturnier A ("second division" tournament) at the sixth DSB Congress (German Chess Federation's congress) held in Breslau. Winning the Hauptturnier earned Lasker the title of "master". The candidates were divided into two groups of ten. The top four in each group competed in a final. Lasker won his section, with 2½ points more than his nearest rival. However, scores were reset to 0 for the final. With two rounds to go, Lasker trailed the leader, Viennese amateur von Feierfeil, by 1½ points. Lasker won both of his final games, while von Feierfeil lost in the penultimate round (being mated in 121 moves after the position was reconstructed incorrectly following an adjournment) and drew in the last round. The two players were now tied. Lasker won a playoff and garnered the master title. This enabled him to play in master-level tournaments and thus launched his chess career."|
|Nov-03-13|| ||Richard Taylor: Great game. Thanks to <Perfidious> for alerting me (and others I assume) to this game.|
|Feb-10-14|| ||jdc2: Kind of amazing how many games involving this particular type of sacrifice there
are, for example:
Gelfand vs Kramnik, 1994
A Stefanova vs N Kosintseva, 2012
|Feb-14-14|| ||tzar: I think this game became a model for future players as far as bishop against King's pawns sacs are concerned.|
|Dec-16-14|| ||kereru: 38.Qxd3 has a nice air of sarcasm about it|
|May-12-15|| ||whiteshark: < RandomVisitor: 13...g6 would put a stop to white's excellent kingside adventure.> Right and 13.Qe2 wasn't necessary for the combination, too.|
|May-02-16|| ||Albion 1959: I first saw this game back in 1977 in a copy of Irving Chernev's The Golden Dozen. I recall that in the book, black resigned at move 33 and not 38. Chernev did tend not carry on with the actual score and simply put resigned where he thought it appropriate. He also made a comment that this was the only time in his long and illustrious career that Lasker ever played The Bird's Opening !!|
|May-21-16|| ||PJs Studio: Dr Lasker's efficiency in this game is beautiful. Reminds me of Fischer.|
|Feb-22-17|| ||Jimmy720: memorize|
|Jun-01-17|| ||Iwer Sonsch: <<whiteshark> 13.Qe2 wasn't necessary for the combination, too.> Looks like it. In the actual combination, Qe2 just throws away a tempo, so why allow <13...g6!>?|
Actually, it's a bit deeper. As my Stockfish 7 points out, 13...d4!, putting up the threat of ...Qxg2# and simultaneously covering f3 against the rook, causes difficulties for White and, in the end, successfully defends (13.Nh5 d4! 14.Rf2! dxe3 15.dxe3 Nxh5 16.Qxh5 with 0.17 @depth 29; 16.Bxh7+ Kxh7 and 21.Qh5+ Kg7 22.Qg4+ or 22.Rf3 Qxf3 23.gxf3 is equal).
Objectively, 13.Nh5 d4! 14.Rf2! is still a tiny bit stronger than 13.Qe2(!) g6! (-0.18 @depth 25), but from a human's point of view, 13.Qe2(!) looks way less suspicious than the immediate 13.Nh5: <"He's played his queen alongside the d1-e2 diagonal. He can't be planning Qh5 anytime soon, can he?">, Bauer might have thought.
|Jun-01-17|| ||Iwer Sonsch: <13.Qe2(!) a6? 14.Nh5!> d4 15.Nxg7 Kxg7 16.Qg4+ Kh8 17.Qh3 Qxg2+ 18.Qxg2 Bxg2 19.Kxg2 still gains the Bishop pair and a decent positional advantage:
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1.46 @depth 25 (Stockfish 7)
|Jun-01-17|| ||Iwer Sonsch: I really gained the opinion that 13.Qe2(!!) was the winning move for Lasker, as it let Bauer without any foresight about the upcoming attack.|
|Jun-01-17|| ||Iwer Sonsch: Lasker's combination from move 26 on was really beautiful and, without the a-, b-, c-, d-, g-, and h-pawn, would make up a really nice puzzle. Of course, most of the moves look pretty clear-cut, but would you still calmly play them at a -3 material disadvantage?|
|Oct-16-17|| ||DrAnderson: Lasker vs J Bauer, 1889.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF LASKER.
Your score: 89 (par = 79)
Who did better?
|Oct-17-17|| ||Boomie: <DrAnderson: Lasker vs J Bauer, 1889.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF LASKER.
Your score: 89 (par = 79)
Who did better?>
I got 91 but got credit for a lot of moves that weren't played. Oddly I've never played guess the move before.
|Nov-21-17|| ||Donkey255: <Who got better?>
I got 104.|
|Apr-11-18|| ||tpstar: <What criteria must exist in order to start thinking that a double bishop sacrifice might work? First, obviously, you need your bishops pointing at h7 and g7. And of course those squares must be protected only by the king (no knight on f8, for example). Furthermore it's important that the king cannot escape via f7-f8 (or f1-f2 in the case of White). Typically this would be because of the rook and pawn on those squares, although I could imagine other cases. It's also important that you have a rook ready to move in for the kill. Finally, perhaps most important of all, when that rook comes out to threaten mate, Black must have no good way to block the imminent check. This is usually the result of having too few pieces defending the kingside.>|
A teaching video used the term "piece fist" which was new to me, with three pieces attacking an undefended Kingside.
<Strangely, despite Lasker's success with Bird's Opening, he never again played it in his life!>
One and done.
<Bauer should have played g6! on move 13, this prevents any chance of a Bishop sacrifice on h7, there was no time for such luxuries such as a6?? this was far too slow, but after Nh5 on move 14, the attack was under way and appears that there was not a lot that could have been done to stop it: Lasker had too many open lines for his pieces. This is very subtle and the flaws in Nxe5 and a6 are difficult to appreciate until looked at with close analysis.>
<Surely it's not a perfect game what with Bauer doing nothing despite the fact that Lasker's bishops are all hungrily eyeing his kingside, but who would have conceived this beautiful attack could be possible (well, Lasker)?>
<For the record, here is Kasparov annotating the game at its key moment in On My Great Predecessors part I:>
<13.Qe2! A psychologically subtle move: both prophylactically defending g2, and threatening Bb5, which in fact is a sham - the bishop is looking in quite the opposite direction!>
<Kasparov then gives lines to show why the combination would not have worked with the queen left on d1 (13.Nh5), as some has suggested.>
<Soltis gives 6. Nf3 and 7. Nc3 as the right move order in his recent opus "Why Lasker Matters." I think he's probably got it right since the order given above allows black the possibility of 6 ... d4.>
<I like how Lasker blocked his center pawns and almost single-mindedly attacked the kingside, then suddenly, out of nowhere, as it were, with Black having apparently done nothing wrong, Lasker unleashes a spectacular and original combination, with the final point having nothing to do with the kingside at all, but simply exploiting the line-up of the enemy bishops, which he must have had in mind before starting the attack!>
<Blacks Nbd7 is a fine move, it strengthens his f6-square, which takes some of the punch out of whites bishops in theory, although the main reason for it is mainly because its a fine square for the knight, it's developing the piece, and it's NOT blocking in his bishop on b7.
As for c5, it is indeed dubious, Nc5! (another reason Nbd7 was a fine move) would have been much better as it would have eliminated one of whites powerful bishops. Although the biggest black mistake IMHO in that he did not play ...3 d4, when no matter what whites pawn structure is shattered, one reason to play Nf3 early on as white in the Bird's. Although, those moves were typical of the style of the ages, and although nowadays most strong players would find d4 and Nc5 immediately, that wasn't the way it was played then and you can't compare different eras. Overall though, a fantastic attack by Lasker, and one of my all-time favorite combinations.>
<11 ...Nxe5 This is also not bad, but black should have taken advantage of a tactical opportunity and strike with 11...d4!, which is a common theme in the queen side fianchetto lines: black shuts out the dark-squared bishop. here it works, despite insufficient control of d4, because of a tactic based on the exposed g1-a7 diagonal. After 11...d4! play might continue 12.cxd4 cxd4 13.Bxd4 Bc5 (the tactic mentioned above) 14. c3 Nxe5 15. fxe5 Qxe5 and black is slightly better. Therefore white should not take the pawn but instead play 13. Qe2 when 13...Qd6 leads to an approximately equal game, as white has kingside play, but his bishop suffers.>
Game Collection: Double Bishop Sacrifices (dedicated to Anatoly K
|Apr-15-18|| ||pdxjjb: Analyzing this with a modern engine is interesting. First, if you watch closely, the engine thinks 13 ... a6 is a pretty reasonable move out to 20 ply search depth or so; only when the search gets very deep does the engine decide it's not such a good idea. Second, the engine thinks 14 Nh5 is only worth a pawn-and-change, had Bauer made the correct response; but the "correct" responses are (imho) "inhuman" (moving the f-rook to the a-side, e.g. Rfb8). And finally, after 14 ... Nxh5, the engine has to hit like 14 ply before it sees Lasker's winning line. 14 ply! Sure, this happens in an eyeblink on modern computers, but c'mon, that's really deep already. Confirming that the whole combo was both unbelievably brilliant and completely sound - there is no hidden refutation for Bauer.|
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