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Sep-27-11
 | | Memethecat: I think at last I'm beginning to learn from past mistakes, I saw this answer quite quickly & assumed that the white rooks would make the same moves regardless, so I was about to rush & send my post but stopped myself (unlike last thursday) & had a closer look. <38Qxh7+ Kxh7. 39Rgxg7+> if <39...Kh8. 40Rh7+ Kg8. 41Rg7#> now this is the bit I almost missed, if <39...Kh6. 40Rg6+ Kh5. 41Rh7+ Qh6. 42Rxh6#> |
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Sep-27-11
 | | Memethecat: <combokal> the real difference is that we know its a puzzle with an answer & a tuesday one at that, so it will be pretty easy. I'm sure if someone had whispered in J.Bs ear (there is a really simple mating combo) he would, like many here, have seen it in a flash. |
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Sep-27-11
 | | awfulhangover: I'm proud of myself (happens rarely!), since I that after 38...Kxh7 39.R5xg7+ Kh6, 40.Rh7+ is a huge blunder :-), but 40.Rg6+! does the trick. |
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Sep-27-11
 | | kevin86: Ouch! I fumbled twice on the same series of downs.
I missed that the king couldn't escape via h6-instead I went for 38 6xg7-which should win...but of course loses the queen Then after 38 xh7+ xh7 39 6xg7+ h6 40 h7+? OUCH! not my day... |
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Sep-27-11
 | | Once: Sometimes we need to combine mighty force with meticulous finesse. <Once> upon a time there was a city slicker who decided, on a whim, to buy a farm. The day after his purchase he was eagerly examining his purchase. A large collection of rural farm tools caught his eye. The usual paraphenalia of an agrarian economy were there - futtocks, crow-billed furblers, a gromit-hook or two and two blood-stained bricks. He inquired of a straw-munching yokel: "I say, good man, what is the purpose of those bricks?" "Why, them's castrating bricks, them's iz," slurred the hoary hand son of toil. "Sounds gruesome. How do they work?"
"Well, zir, it's like zis. You gets behind the beast. All quiet like and sneaky. You takes one of these bricks in each 'and. Take aim at 'is plums. Thens you clap these bricks together with all your strength. Zats it, zir, one castrated bull." "I say! Doesn't it hurt?"
"Only if you catches your thumbs between the bricks, zir." Today's Tuesday puzzle gives us two opportunities to go wrong. After 38. Qxh7+ Kxh7, white would throw away the win if he chose 39. Rdxh7  click for larger viewAfter 39...Kh8 white discovers that there is no mate and he has chucked his queen for naught. Or after 39. Rgxg7 Kh6 40. Rh7?
 click for larger viewAnd again the black king escapes via g5 and Kxf5.
The game line is the only way to win. Odd that pieces as powerful as doubled rooks should need such precise handling. A fun little puzzle. As long as you didn't catch your thumbs. |
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Sep-27-11
 | | estrick: <Memethecat: the real difference is that we know its a puzzle with an answer & a tuesday one at that, > I'm often clumsy and imprecise in my handling of rooks. The value of this position appearing as an "Easy" puzzle for me is that I'm forced to find the precise way to make the rooks move, since I know that there is a right way to do it here. OTB, I might have chosen the wrong way to move them. Hopefully, today's POTD will make my future coordination of the rooks a surer thing. <Once: Today's Tuesday puzzle gives us two opportunities to go wrong. After 38. Qxh7+ Kxh7, white would throw away the win if he chose 39. Rdxh7After 39...Kh8 white discovers that there is no mate and he has chucked his queen for naught. Or after 39. Rgxg7 Kh6 40. Rh7?
And again the black king escapes via g5 and Kxf5.> |
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Sep-27-11
 | | Marmot PFL: Found it, but it wasn't as simple as usual for these 2 rook mates, as there are 2 different mating patterns. I can see how Benjamin could miss this in time pressure, especially as the position was lost whatever he played. |
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Sep-27-11
 | | chrisowen: I mama whoopee JBs gone to Iceland
Like fillibutter cake the unexpected hits you between the eyes qh3 it suprise! Two Kan one within a6 one without nb5
It shackle a stern chain qxh7 grand black at wits end! |
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Sep-27-11
 | | sevenseaman: Welcome back <Once>. The site was forlorn without you; color 'twas that had gone missing. Your bull story brought up another to my mind.
A cow farmer was being driven to his wit's end as his bull got too old to service all the cows. At last the farmer put sentiment aside and bought in a new young bull. The bounder went after the cows with great gusto, energy and speed; one after another, he had work to do and no time to lose. The farmer who had not retired the old bull due to old times' sake, was appreciative of his new investment, seeing it making a real job of it. He then noticed that in a corner of the field his old bull was snorting, pissing and pawing the earth furiously, the way bulls do when they feel great, and bellicose. The farmer scrambled up to him and said in the bulls ear, 'sorry old man you cannot do anything, so why this bull, this histrionics'? Said the bulll, "Thats ok, I know that. But the rate at which this bum is going, I must let him know that I am no cow". |
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Sep-27-11
 | | Memethecat: <estrick> The right R at the right time to the right place is no easy thing to master even for masters. Even when they are still on the back rank there are many complexities. I am reading a v good book by Bill Hartston, Better Chess, it has a great example of the importance of when where & which R to move from the last game in the 85 final, the game where Kasparov finally took the crown from Karpov, I'm sure you could find it on here. |
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Sep-27-11
 | | sevenseaman: Play the Rs with precision like Prieur;
Eetu Prieur vs Ufuk Sezen Arat, Rogaska Slatina, 2011.  click for larger viewW in 5. |
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Sep-27-11
 | | Shams: <sevenseaman> Ah, rutting livestock humor. Verily a bottomless well of mirth. "But do they call me McGinty the bridge builder!? Noooooo..." |
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Sep-27-11
 | | Patriot: <chrisowen> <I mama whoopee JBs gone to Iceland> Where do you get this stuff? |
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Sep-27-11
 | | scormus: <Once, Sevenseaman> ;) |
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| Sep-27-11 | | jackalope: Nice one <sevenseaman> - took me a few minutes to see g4. Speaking of "obvious" vs obvious... Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson went camping. Sometime late at night, Mr. Holmes awoke and immediately awakened Dr. Watson.
"Tell me doctor, what do you see?"
The good doctor thought for a moment and replied with a yawn, "Well Mr. Holmes, geographically I see we are in a valley surrounded by granite mountains carved by an ancient glacier - astronomically I see the Milky Way, Ursa Major and the North Star - theologically I see God's infinite beauty. Why do you ask? What do you see?" "Elementary, Watson ... I see someone has stolen our tent!" |
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| Sep-27-11 | | srtnm: My guess is our <chris owen> friend is either maniacally stark raving mad or he’s using a cheap language translator in order to post in English. Whatever, I never miss his (or <once>’s) posts. A city slicker was driving through the country and came upon a three legged pig. He stopped and hailed the farmer over to the road to ask why the pig had only three legs. The farmer said “This is the best pig we’ve ever had. A few months ago the barn door somehow opened and the horses got out. The pig herded the horses back into the barn and closed the door.” The slicker asked, “That is quite a feat, but why does the pig have only have three legs?” “Well”, said the farmer, “last month our tractor stalled on the railroad track and the pig ran over and pushed the tractor off the track just before the train came. He’s the best pig we’ve ever had.” The slicker asked again, “That is a terrific story but why does the pig have only three legs?” Replied the farmer, “This is an amazing pig. Last week a fire started in the kitchen late one night and the pig came into the house and woke everyone up so they could escape. He’s an incredible animal.” The city slicker was now pretty irritated and asked curtly, “What happened to the missing leg?!” “Well, he’s just too fine a pig to eat all at once.” |
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Sep-27-11
 | | Shams: <strnm> That's a good one. Here's one that circulated during the war: <A Canadian airman bailed out of his bomber, but not before receiving severe wounds. After the German medics fixed him up, removing a leg in the process, he pleaded with them to fly the leg over England on the next German bombing mission and drop it on the field where he used to be based so that it could be sent home to his family. The Germans, gentlemanly to wounded airmen, agreed.Then gangrene set in and his other leg had to be amputated. He asked for it to also be flown over and dropped on England, and again the Germans agreed. Shortly afterward, the wound in his arm became infected and he was told they might have to amputate that, too. When he made his usual request, the medical people were suddenly hustled out of the room and a black-uniformed Gestapo officer stomped in. "We refuse to send your arm to England," he said. The Canadian, astounded, asked why not. The Gestapo officer looked at him a long time before finally replying, "We think you are trying to escape."> |
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Sep-27-11
 | | chrisowen: <Patriot> coming round amenity son it down jamming rook xg7 borrow in clock it swine kh8 oh pc g7 recomate! |
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| Sep-27-11 | | gofer: sevenseaman: <1 R1f6+ Kh5 2 Rh7+ Kxg4 3 Rg7+ Kh5 4 g4+ Kh4 5 Rh6+> If you would like another simple test then answer the four questions
at this link. I hasten to say that I got ALL four wrong... http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=... |
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| Sep-27-11 | | number 23 NBer: <gofer> Cool quiz! I managed to get the third one right, but the others eluded me. I guess I don't have the brains of a four year old... |
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| Sep-27-11 | | Creg: 38.Qxh7+ Kxh7 39. Rgxg7+ (not the other rook) 39...Kh6 (39...Kh8 40.Rh7+ Kg8 41.Rdg7 mate) 40.Rg7+ Kh5 41.Rh7+ Qh6 42.R7xh6 mate. |
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Sep-27-11
 | | sevenseaman: Thanks <gofer>. You got the 'Rookery' dead right. http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=.... came around to me about a month ago. I have to admit I too didn't get the first three. I warmed up enough to the trickery and got the last one correct. <Shams> Your 'great escape' plan got me in weird stitches! Wonderful<srtnm> 'A good thing' has to be eaten! <jackalope> <Elementary, Watson> got me stumped! |
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Sep-27-11
 | | sevenseaman: You notice <jackalope>, in both the POTD and this one, a single P has played a crucial role to enable the 'Rookery' to prevail! If one has a P around one tries to use it in order to make R action deadlier. |
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| Sep-27-11 | | stst: Not really - there does not appear to have a "killing" move. And the WQ is being attacked by the R.
The obvious move 38.QxP+ is met by KxQ
39.R7xB+ Kh8, and W has no subsequent kill. (40.f6 Rxf6, etc.)Try
38.Qh5
IF(A) RxP, 39.RxB RxQ, 40.Rg8#
IF(B) Rg8, 39.f6 Bxf6, 40.Qxh7#
IF(C) Qh6, 39.RxQ BxR, 40.QxB and Bk has very slim defense.
But still it looks like I missed something.... |
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| Sep-28-11 | | jackalope: Good point about pawns <sevenseaman> - it's just one of the many weaknesses in my game. I'm just getting back into the game after not playing for about 40 years and my biggest weakness seems to be focusing too much on what I'm trying to do and forgetting about my opponent - leads to blunders and missed opportunities. But hey, with sites like this (especially the POTD and Kibitzers) I'm confident I'll get there. I am amazed at the resources available now. As to <Elementary, Watson>, perhaps it is culture. I've done a lot of camping and nearly always slept in a tent. That Watson could see the surroundings when he should only see the inside of the tent was Mr. Holmes point. |
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