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| Mar-11-04 |
| Benjamin Lau: It might have been an easy puzzle, but I thank chessgames.com for bringing this game to my attention anyway, nice mate at the end. |
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| Mar-11-04 |
| d4Nf6Bg5: why is it called a clean mate? |
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| Mar-11-04 |
| Shadout Mapes: Every square is attacked once, i think. anyone know for sure? |
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| Sneaky: <Every square is attacked once, i think.> I've heard that called a "perfect mate" in problem books; I think it means the same thing. |
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| Mar-11-04 |
| Dick Brain: It is known as a "pure" mate.
http://www.math.harvard.edu/~elkies... |
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| Mar-11-04 |
| rodolpheb: Another mate, a bit longer but pretty, is :
20... Bg4
21. Nb5 Rae8
22. Qc3 Rxe1+
23. Rxe1 Qf1+
24. Rxf1 Rxf1+
25. Kg2 Rg1#
Did I miss something ? |
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| Mar-11-04 |
| panigma: Nice of Blackburne to tell us that his mate is considered one of the most beautiful ever. |
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| Mar-11-04 |
| Whitehat1963: I'm surprised I actually saw today's puzzle solution pretty quickly, considering it's a Thursday puzzle. Maybe I'm getting better ... hope so. |
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| Mar-11-04 |
| sisyfus: well, it wasn't hard for us to find it, but blackburne was playing blindfolded! |
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| beenthere240: It's a little like Philidor's legacy, but with an extra kick at the end from the bishop. |
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| Mar-11-04 |
| sooner22: This is a perfect example of smother mate, with a twist! |
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| tamar: <sooner22 "...smother mate, with a twist!"> Perfect epitaph for
Blackburne. |
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| kevin86: Blackburne did this blindfold! I believe that he once announced a mate in 16 or 17 moves blindfold!! A great mate! Artistic and useful! |
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Mar-11-04
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| alphee: Nice puzzle, first time I find it so fast. Either I improve or it becomes easier. Rodolpheb's solution I did not see. |
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| Mar-11-04 |
| Larsker: <Nice of Blackburne to tell us that his mate is considered one of the most beautiful ever.> Yea, these chess champs were always very self-effacing. Reminds me of the Epaulet mate. |
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| Mar-11-04 |
| yoniker: Rodolpheb is,of course ,wrong. |
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| Mar-11-04 |
| Akavall: This was a really nice mate, I didn't see it, and now I am @#$%*, because it really wasn't hard. |
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| midknightblue: I saw it and was so proud of myself. Thanks for spoiling my fun everyone, and announcing that you saw it too, and it was easy. :( |
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| Feb-22-05 |
| aw1988: Eek! Nfxd2 is a painful move. |
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| Feb-22-05 |
| TheParadigm: <kevin86>Blackburne once announced mate in 15 while blindfolded, and was kind enough to include 3 variations, just in case his opponent thought he was lying. |
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| Jan-14-06 |
| Ludamad: I believe a clean mate is where every piece blocking the opponents king is nessacary, and that there are no extra or "messy" pieces performing the mate |
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| Oct-05-06 |
| prinsallan: <Shadout Mapes: 8.Nfxd2?? Even beginners don't make moves like that.> I must agree, its a solidly bad move ^^
White has the choice of...
a) Develop another piece
b) Undevelop a developed piece
And he picks the latter - lol. |
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| Oct-05-06 |
| prinsallan: And a fine checkmate by Blackburne finishes. |
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| Jan-29-07 |
| Rubenus: <Sneaky> Not true. A pure mate is when every square is attacked once, but to be a perfect mate it also needs to be economical, that is when all pieces except king and pawns are needed. The rook on a8 is not necessary for the mate so it is not economical and therefore not perfect. |
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| Oct-09-07 |
| sanyas: <Rubenus> If a mate is constructed using all pieces from the attacking side's army, it is a <<>model mate>. And if it involves every piece on the board, it is an <<>ideal mate>. Pretty much the only place you can find ideal mates is in helpmate studies, eg.  click for larger view
Helpmate in two (dual). |
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