< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·
|Jan-31-05|| ||catlover: <DexterGordon> Perhaps Black may have been afraid to open the g file, fearing that a later Kh1 and Rg1 would continue the attack. |
|Jan-31-05|| ||jkiipli: <szyymek><32.Qe4!> I wouldn't label a move with an exclamation mark if you have much better moves at hand (I mean 32.Qc4!) |
|Jan-31-05|| ||patzer2: The opening is the Danish Gambit. After the thematic pawn offer 3. c3, Black might consider the possibility 3...d4!? (an idea of Horowitz's per GM Keene in BCO). According to the Opening Explorer, Black has done well with it in practical play, with the continuation 4. exd5 Qxd5 5. cxd4 Nc6 6. Nf3 Bg4 7. Be2 Bb4+ 8. Nc3 Bxf3 9. Bxf3 offering excellent winning chances (33% Black wins to only 11% White wins and the rest draws). One of the strongest examples of succesful play by Black using 3...d4!? is Miles vs Nunn, 1970. |
Of course Black can accept both gambit pawn offers with GM Keene's suggestion in BCO of 3...dxc3 4. Bc4 cxb2 5. Bxb2 d5! One game showing the potential of 5...d5! is A Rode vs K Pilgaard, 2003, but not R McBride vs Marshall, 1915. According to GM Keene's analysis, after 5...d5! 6.Bxd5 Nf6 (6...Bb4+!? 7.Nc3 Bxc3+ 8.Bxc3 Nf6 9.Qf3 Nxd5 10.exd5 0–0 11.Ne2 c6 12.Rd1 Qg5=) 7.Bxf7+ Kxf7 8.Qxd8 Bb4+ 9.Qd2 Bxd2+ 10.Nxd2 Re8, the game is level, following Nyholm-Tartakower, Baden, 1914.
Perhaps the try 4...cxb2 5.Bxb2 Nf6!? offers Black good winning chances. Play might continue 6.e5 Bb4+ 7.Bxf7+ Kxf7 8.Qxd8 Bb4+ 9.Qd2 Bxd2+ 10.Nxd2 Re8=) 6.e5 Bb4+ 7.Kf1 d5 8.Bb5+ Nfd7 9.e6 fxe6 10.Bxg7 as in Blackburne vs C Hanson, 1876. However, instead of the 10...Rg8!? played there, Black appears to turn the tables and win with Fritz 8's recommendation of 10...Kf7! 11.Bb2 (not 11. Bxh8?? Qxh8 and Black picks up another piece) Nf6 12.Nf3 Bd6 13.Ng5+ Kg8–+. Here, with two extra pawns and a solid position, Black with strong play has excellent winning chances.
|Jan-31-05|| ||kevin86: This is the typical Monday puzzle. However,also typical of chess,even a simple problem like this has a few trap doors. Is this my imagination,but have we seen a lot of Blackburne lately? |
|Jan-31-05|| ||Stonewaller2: Yeah, I missed 31. ... g8 32. xg7+?? xg7. Other than that my line was pretty neat after 32. ... xg7?? 33. g5+ f7 34. g6+ e7 35. d6+ f7 36. h7+ g8 37. g6+ g7 38. xg7#.|
Another way to refuse 3. c3 in the Danish Gambit is 3. ... e7.
|Jan-31-05|| ||patzer2: Black's losing blunder 28...a4?? is instructive. Black's only move to save the game here was <Calli>'s suggestion of 28...Rae8!, which holds the draw by keeping the Black Queen off of the critical c1-h6 diagonal and by creating counter-threats on White's back rank.|
A few key possibilities are 28...Rae8! 29.Rd1 (29.Rg6 Re1 30.Qd6 Rh1+ 31.Kg3 Qc3+ 32.Kg4 Qc4+ 33.Qd4 Qxd4+ 34.Rxd4 Rxf2 ) 29...Qe5 30.Qxe5 Rxe5=
|Jan-31-05|| ||DexterGordon: <catlover>, yes, I guess avoiding an attack on the g-file is the most likely reason for avoiding 13...xf3+.|
Of course, after that move I'd almost be inclined to castle Q and see who ends up with the best attack... :-)
|Jan-31-05|| ||euripides: <DG> Yes, 13..Nxf3+ looks better than the game for Black. As the game went something like 20 Qc3 seems to give good chances of a technical win. |
|Jan-31-05|| ||patzer2: Of course after Black's blunder 28...a4??, Blackburne's 29. Rg6! initiates a decisive attack on the weakened castled position.
A complete game analysis, with Fritz 8 and ideas consolidated from several previous posts, follows:|
Blackburne Joseph - Witton [C44]
Melbourne Melbourne, 1885
1.e4 e5 2.d4 exd4 3.c3 dxc3 4.Bc4 Nf6 <4...cxb2 5.Bxb2 Nf6 (5...d5 6.Bxd5 Nf6 (6...Bb4+!? 7.Nc3 Bxc3+ 8.Bxc3 Nf6 9.Qf3 Nxd5 10.exd5 0–0 11.Ne2 c6 12.Rd1 Qg5=) 7.Bxf7+ Kxf7 8.Qxd8 Bb4+ 9.Qd2 Bxd2+ 10.Nxd2 Re8=) 6.e5 Bb4+ (6...Qe7=) 7.Kf1 d5 8.Bb5+ Nfd7 9.e6 fxe6 10.Bxg7 Kf7! 11.Bb2 Nf6 12.Nf3 Bd6 13.Ng5+ Kg8–+> 5.Nxc3 Nc6 6.Nf3 Bb4 7.0–0 d6 8.Bg5 Be6 9.Bxe6 fxe6 10.Qb3 Qe7 11.Nd5 exd5 12.exd5 Ne5 13.Qxb4 0–0 <13...Nxf3+ 14.gxf3 0–0 > 14.Nd4 c5 15.dxc6 bxc6 16.Nxc6 Nxc6 17.Qc4+ Kh8 18.Qxc6 Qe5 19.Bxf6 Qxf6 20.Rad1 <20.Qc3 Rac8 21.Qxf6 Rxf6 22.Rac1 Rff8 23.Rfd1 > 20...Qxb2 21.Qxd6 Qxa2 22.Rd2 Qa5 23.Rfd1 Qf5 24.Qg3 a5 25.Rd7 Qf6 26.h4 h6 <26...Rad8 => 27.R1d6 Qa1+ 28.Kh2 a4?? <28...Rae8! (would have saved the game) 29.Rd1 (29.Rg6 Re1 30.Qd6 Rh1+ 31.Kg3 Qc3+ 32.Kg4 Qc4+ 33.Qd4 Qxd4+ 34.Rxd4 Rxf2 =) 29...Qe5 30.Qxe5 Rxe5=> 29.Rg6 Rg8 <29...Rae8 (unfortunately this comes one move too late) 30.Rgxg7 Qb1 31.Rg8+ Rxg8 32.Qc3+ Rg7 33.Qxg7#; 29...Rad8 30.Rdxg7 Qc1 31.Re7 (31.Qe5? Qf4 ) 31...Qf4 32.Rg8+ Rxg8 33.Qxf4 ; 29...Rfd8 30.Rdxg7 Qc1 31.Qe5 ; 29...Rf6 30.Rgxg7 Qb1 31.Qc7 > 30.Qf4 Rgf8 <30...Kh7 31.Rxh6#> 31.Rxh6+ gxh6 <31...Kg8 32.Qc4+ Rf7 33.Qxf7#> 32.Qxh6+ Kg8 33.Qh7# 1–0
|Jan-31-05|| ||WillC21: This might be the easiest puzzle I have ever seen. |
|Jan-31-05|| ||Castle In The Sky: T.G.I.M, the puzzles get harder as the week progresses |
|Jan-31-05|| ||masterwojtek: Easy puzzle but its only monday...
See my profile to receive 1 free chess video!
|Jan-31-05|| ||JohnBoy: To all! <masterw>'s link is BS. I think I was sent a virus in the html file by just openning the site. |
|Jan-31-05|| ||WillC21: <ChessGames.com> If in fact the file contained a virus, it is probably best to delete this masterwojtek's post as soon as possible since his intent seems to only be malicious. |
|Jan-31-05|| ||patzer2: Need to make one correction to a previous post about the opening:|
"Perhaps the try 4...cxb2 5.Bxb2 Nf6!? offers Black winning chances. Play might continue 6.e5 Bb4+ 7.Kf1 d5 8.Bb5+ Nfd7 9.e6 fxe6 10.Bxg7?! as in Blackburne vs C Hanson, 1876. However, instead of the 10...Rg8!? played, Black appears to turn the tables and win with Fritz 8's stunning recommendation 10...Kf7! From here play might continue 11.Bb2 (not 11. Bxh8?? Qxh8 and Black picks up another piece) Nf6 12.Nf3 Bd6 13.Ng5+ Kg8–+. With two extra pawns and a solid position, Black has excellent winning chances."
Note: This is not a bust of the Danish, so much, as it is a reassessment of 5...Nf6 as a playable and under rated move in the Danish accepted. While certainly not anywhere near a forced win (except perhaps in the particular line Blackburne chose in a Blindfold simul), I do think it gives Black quick equality and perhaps even a small plus.
|Feb-01-05|| ||MindlessOne: masterwotsit, that better not be a virus, i went there, and it certainly seems so, i gonna run scan, man, that kind of site can get you into trouble!!! |
|Feb-01-05|| ||masterwojtek: you are all infected...wellk21,mindlesot,janboy |
|Feb-01-05|| ||WillC21: Well I got so many viruses on my computer I don't think another one is gonna do too much to me. |
|Feb-02-05|| ||MindlessOne: good news everyone, the virus is inexistant, I ran a virus scan on my computer and its all clean so no worries. Masterwotsit is just an idiot if that isnt too harsh. I dont think that this link is funny if that was its intention, caused me much distress. But anyway, the link is safe, and I would ask Masterwotsit to kindly not post any links like this anymore, and I hate to say it but id advise people of chessgames not to put any trust into anything this guy says, I dont trust him at all. But thought Id let you all know |
|Feb-02-05|| ||acirce: What are you talking about <MindlessOne>? That was a perfectly harmless joke. It's not his fault that you go crazy and start yelling about viruses for no reason. |
|Feb-02-05|| ||tamar: I cannot agree <acirce> that it is a harmless joke to promise a free chess video and deliver a hoax. Being old and wizened of course I did not try the link :-) |
The odd thing is that people who post sites that jump out and give you a fake virus often consider it a public service of sorts, a way to educate others not to be so trusting when trying links from anonymous sources. I've seen elaborate hoaxes on other message boards (sites that imitate your computer shutting down and losing all its info) though and it causes harm and bad feelings. It is disrespectful to your fellow posters to do this, and I urge whoever did it not to do this anymore.
|Feb-02-05|| ||acirce: Well I can understand that you might get worried if you're being taken to a page you didn't expect, but it was definitely a harmless joke that hurt nobody in any way. No virus, no fake virus and no reason for anyone to call <masterwojtek> an idiot. |
|Feb-02-05|| ||WillC21: <Acirce> Yes, now we know it's a harmless joke so it's easy for you to say "no reason to get excited." You are speaking in hindsight. From our perspective a few days earlier things were not as clear cut, and this guy at best was only acting very annoying, if not in fact harmful. |
|Feb-03-05|| ||JohnBoy: <acirce> - I started the virus bit, and with reason. I was seriously worried. The "joke" is not the least bit funny, and I have had to reinstall my operating system more than once after coming to such a link and not having proper defense against a virus created in the last 48 hours.|
Let's stick to chess and leave this sort of nonsense out of here. Who really wants to have to run a virus scan after some childish diversion sends a curious observer to a low-class porn site, a snuff video, or something worse.
|Sep-30-08|| ||GrahamClayton: This game was played during a blindfold simultaneous exhibition on the 8th of January 1885. Blackburne scored +5, -0, =3. |
Blackburne spent the first 5 months of 1885 touring Australia, giving simultaneous, blindfold simultaneous and exhibition games in Melbourne, Sydney and Adelaide. He gave this opinion of the strength of Australian chess:
"Taken as a whole, the players were not as strong as I expected. I thought that I would meet more first class players. Burns and Fisher are comparable to Thorold and Wayte, the top London amateurs. Esling is also very promising."
Source: Anthony Wright, "Australian Chess to 1914", Melbourne 1995.
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·