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Joseph Henry Blackburne vs Lush
Melbourne 1885  ·  Scandinavian Defense: Main Lines (B01)  ·  1-0
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Dec-27-11
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  agb2002: White has the bishop pair for two knights and a pawn.

The black king in the center invites to play 23.Rxe6+ to open lines:

A) 23... fxe6 24.Qg6#.

B) 23... Qe7 24.Rxe7+, etc.

Dec-27-11
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  sevenseaman: Here is one for the love of problem solving.


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White to play. Easy.

Dec-27-11  Penguincw: Whoops. I just clicked on the game. I didn't even think to try to solve the puzzle. :)
Dec-27-11  polarx: I found this very easy. Then I've read a previous post about why White plays 21.Qf5 instead of Qd3 straightaway and it has shown a new light on this puzzle and on Blackburne's understanding of the game. Impressive.
Dec-27-11  TheTamale: I got this puzzle in seconds. Yesterday's I could hardly understand even when the solution was spelled out step by step. I can't believe I've grown so much smarter overnight!
Dec-27-11  LoveThatJoker: Pretty straightforward for today:

23. Rxe6+! Qe7 (23...fxe6 24. Qg6#) 24. Rxe7+ and White wins.

LTJ

Dec-27-11  LoveThatJoker: <sevenseaman> Cool puzzle, man! Same motif of the Rook destroying the pawn structure guarding the King.

1. Rxc6+ bxc6 2. Ba6#

Thanks for posting this one. It's cool that you found a puzzle with the exact same motif (and a rook no-less!).

LTJ

Dec-27-11  LoveThatJoker: <LIFE Master AJ> 1. Rxe6+! Qe7 (1...fxe6 2. Qg6+ Rxg6 3. Bxg6#) 2. Rxe7+ and White wins!

Good stuff!

LTJ

Dec-27-11
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  kevin86: The posision resembles a Boden mate in the center of the board. If the rook is taken,mate follows immediately-if not,the queen is lost for nothing!
Dec-27-11
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  Marmot PFL: <"The reputation of the Scandinavian Defence is much worse than the positions arising from it."

- GM Sergei Tiviakov>

It was games like this that gave it a bad reputation.

Dec-27-11
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  Patriot: Here's what I thought: Boden's mate-- 23.Rxe6+ fxe6 24.Qg6#

But it's not exactly since the queen can interpose. However, a "win is a win".

Dec-27-11
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  chrisowen: Joseph churned over sheep like Lush
His heart was all a flutter
It must be done he cried aloud
Rxe6 there footprints in the butter.

By the way I tried walking today and pulled a muscle :(

Dec-27-11  BOSTER: One possible way of meeting an attack is to <create a diversion>, what means to make a counterthreat at least serious as the opponent's.

After 8.h3 black didn't retreat his bishop, didn't play Bxf3 they created the threat playing h5, b.t.w. with weakness on "g6".

But black's diversion doesn't prevent white from executing his threat.

After 10...Qxd6 we had the position on next diagram.


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I guess white can take the bishop playing 11.hxg4 hxg4 12.Ne5 and if f6 13.Bg6+ Ke7 14.Nxg4 and white with a piece up.

Dec-27-11  BLS: Thank God, at least no one has said "Re6+"...TIME TO CHECK. Lord, I need a drink. And AJ, your internet game, exploiting the g6 weakness...why did you even bother? Jeez. Perhaps my shrink can suggest ways to curb my acidity. On the other hand, maybe it's needed.
Dec-27-11
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  carn7898: 23. Rxe6+fxe6 24. Qg6#. This puzzle was a lot easier than Monday's.
Dec-27-11  VincentL: "Easy"

23. Rxe6+ wins here.

23....fxe6 24. Qg6#

The only "defence" is the interposition of the queen with 23....Qe7. Then. 24. Rxe7+ and white wins Q and P for nothing, and is likely to mate soon.

Letīs check.

Dec-27-11
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  Jabot: easier than yesterday
Dec-27-11  zb2cr: 23. Rxe6+, fxe6; 24. Qg6#. Easy as can be, once you know the secret.
Dec-27-11  stst: Why it so often happens in chess that such mate position comes up? Here's another one, allowing
23.Rxe6+ fxe6, 24.Qg6# precisely because of the position.

OR, one may refute 23.Rxe6+ by Qe7, but even this Q-sac does not save the crush: 24.Rxe7# because again the positions of the pair of Bishops.

Dec-27-11  stst: minor correction:
after Bk's Q interposition, RxQ does not win immediately, but ... very very soon. Swinging the R to allow dis+ will soon eat up all of Bk's pieces...Practically it ends the game right after RxQ!
Dec-28-11
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  BishopofBlunder: <Once: <BishopofBlunder> The main line Scandinavian (2... Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5) made a minor comeback a few years ago. There was a DVD called "The Scheming Scandinavian" by IM Andrew Martin, which seemed to suggest that it was the perfect opening. The minimum of book learning and you force white to play in your garden from as early as the first move. That seemed to spark a bit of interest amongst club players. Played it myself a for a few seasons when I got disillusioned with my lifelong love affair with the French defence.

But like all fashions it flared briefly then dwindled away. Once the novelty factor wore off, we were left with the inherent drawbacks of punting the queen into the open so early. White wins became almost automatic. Which is never much fun when you are playing black.

Then folks started playing with the alternative queen retreats after Nc3, especially Qd6 and Qd8. But you could tell that there was no long-term future there.

A few die-hards still essay the old Scandy. But unless Even Deeper Thought uncorks a TN or three, I don't think it will ever be a major contender.

As the Pogues reminded us: "I could have been someone."

"Well, so could anyone.">

Well, whether in chess or some other facet of life, everything eventually makes a comeback. Most, like the main line Scandi, are short-lived.

It seems to me that the purpose behind a pawn gambit is to gain time to get a lead in development or create an attack. 2...Qxd5 does neither of these. In fact, it loses time and black just seems to find himself down a pawn. Though I can see how it might be playable at blitz time controls.

Dec-28-11
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  Once: There is a little more to the dear old Scandy than gambiting a pawn. Especially as the old main line doesn't gambit a pawn! Here's the standard starting position after 1. e4 d5 2. ed Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5:


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White argues that he has the advantage because he will gain time by kicking the black queen around. He can develop freely with natural moves like d4, Nf3 and so on.

But Black is happy too. For one thing, he has dictated the choice of opening as early as move 1. He argues that the material is level and both sides have developed precisely one piece. What is more, that white knight on c3 hinders white from creating his ideal pawn centre with c4 and d4.

Black will usually play for a caro kann style pawn centre with c6 and b6.

So the Scandy is fully playable at normal time controls. Not just a surprise weapon for blitz. But it's a little too sterile for black for the tastes of most GMs.

Dec-30-11
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  whiteshark: <BLS> Water, water everywhere...but not a drop to drink.
Dec-30-11
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  tamar: Surprising these two did not opt for the Scotch Game (C45)
Dec-30-11
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  tpstar: Or Alekhine's Defense (B03)
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