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|Jan-18-05|| ||Hesam7: I think it is a sure win. How you handle ...♕g1 ? |
|Jan-18-05|| ||Captain Scarlet: Hesam7- White's play is not the best and he shouldn't arrive in the final position in the first place. Allowing the A-rook to leave the back rank was a big blunder.|
This should really be a "black to play and draw" puzzle since Nf4 is the only way he can do this and there is no win.
|Jan-18-05|| ||dac1990: Well, I Fritzalyzed and it came up with 29 ...♘f4+ 30. gxf4+ gxf4 31. ♔f2 ♖h2+ 32. ♔e1 ♖xe2+ 33. ♔xe2 ♖h8 34. ♗xb7 a5 35. ♗c6 ♘b8 . There is no win for Black. |
|Jan-18-05|| ||offramp: <dac1990: Well, I Fritzalyzed...> Brilliant! Ossimitz's site has the ugly word 'Annofritzed' which looks and sounds wrong.
|Jan-18-05|| ||zer0: Is there an official notation for discovered check (30... gxf4)? Perhaps "dc" or something? |
|Jan-18-05|| ||JohnBoy: <dac1990> - regardless Fritz's analysis, after 34.Bxb7, if black is going to justify this position it will be with active play. Not just hanging on to a pawn. Try Fritz looking at 34...Rh2+ 35.Rf2 Qh5 36.Rf1 Rxf2+ 37.Rxf2 Qh1, trying to get over to the q-side for checks and pawn picking. Passive resistance is indeed . (How do you make that symbol?) |
|Jan-18-05|| ||noone2: <Johnboy> white can always prevent the black queen from getting to the q - side by moving the rook f1 f2.|
White has at least a draw after 34 B:b7. I would agree with your attempt to get the Q to the q-side as a best try to hold.
Chessgames: I guess this is not an appropriate puzzle - especially for a Tuesday!
|Jan-18-05|| ||kualle: Yes an easy capture of the white queen. Saw until Rh8, and thought that would be strong enough to win the game... |
|Jan-18-05|| ||Shubes82: what was white thinking with move 36?! |
|Jan-18-05|| ||jirka: Hmm, strange, crafty seems to like: +0.51 34. ♗xb7 ♖h2+ 35. ♖f2 ♖xf2+ 36. ♔xf2 ♕h5 37. ♖g1 ♘b6 38. ♗c6 ♕h2+ 39. ♖g2 ♕h1 40. a5 ♘d5 41. exd5 ♔xf5 42. ♗d7+ ♔f6 43. ♖g4 ♕c1 44. c4, that's after about 860028K nodes. In fact I let crafty play itself starting with move 34 and on (only 5 seconds a move though) and white won. Doesn't seem like an obvious black win to me until the blunder on move 36. |
|Jan-18-05|| ||kevin86: Blackburne pulls off another of his great combinations! I aswered the first move,but was off afterwards. |
|Jan-18-05|| ||gilbertv: I saw up until 33 I am having a good day. |
|Jan-18-05|| ||Granite: The gamescore is slightly incorrect it should read 34. ... gxf4+ since it's discovered check with the black queen. |
|Jan-18-05|| ||Shah Mat: < be3292 > no. i meant 30...gxf4 |
|Jan-18-05|| ||midknightblue: 1. Chessgames: Thanks for showing an evan's gambit declined - awesome. 2.cu8sfan - I am with you. I missed a monday puzzle, and i needed a confidence booster.
3. And lastly 23. Bd5? seems like one of the worst moves I have ever seen. Talk about not sensing danger. |
|Jan-18-05|| ||Helloween: I have "Hiarcanalyzed" the position.
After 29... Nf4+ 30.gxf4 gxf4+ 31.Kf2 Rh2+ 32.Ke1 Rxe2+ 33.Kxe2 Rh8,
The move 34.Bxb7?! leads to a pretty draw by stalemate: 34...Rh2+ 35.Rf2 Rxf2+ 36.Kxf2 Qh7 37.Rg1 Nb6! 38.Bc6 Qh2+ 39.Rg2 Qh1 40.a5 Nd5! 41.Bxd5
Qe1+ 42.Kxe1 stalemate!
To retain winning chances, White must play for the d4 break - 34.Rf2 b6 35.Rd1! Qg8! 36.Nxd6 Qb8 37.Nf5 Qc7 38.Kd2! Nf8 39.d4 Ng6, which is about equal with plenty of play still left.
|Jan-18-05|| ||SouCapi: What if black tries to double the rooks instead of 29.. ♘f4+ ? For instance
29... ♖h7 30. ♖h1 ♖a-h8, threatening 31...♘f4+. Does anyone care to Fritzalyse, Craftylyse, etc for us? |
|Jan-18-05|| ||patzer2: <SouCapi> I'll look at it tomorrow with Fritz 8. |
|Jan-18-05|| ||Saruman: I was pleased to spot Nf4+ immedietly. |
|Jan-18-05|| ||dbquintillion: within the infinitely dense and microscopically small "space" in which as yet unexplained quantum processes resulted in a big bang, creating the universe, the solution to this puzzle was already contained. in algebraic notation. |
|Jan-19-05|| ||dbquintillion: in retrospect, i've decided that my recent post was too derivative of johnboy's post on the alavkin v. diu 2002 page so i hereby withdraw my name from competition for the most humorous "how easy was this puzzle" post. |
|Jan-19-05|| ||patzer2: The puzzle solution 29...Nf4+! initiates a forced defensive combination, since all other options lose. After <29...Rh7>, for example, as requested for analysis by <SouCapi>, play could continue 29...Rh7?? 30. Rh1! Rah8 31. Ne3! Nf8 32. Ng4+ Ke7 33. Rh2 f5 34. exf5 Qxf5 35. Rah1 with a winning pin snaring the trapped Knight for White's win. Fritz 8 analyzes the position after 29...Rh7?? as + 3.25 @ 13 depth for a clear and decisive White advantage. |
|Jan-19-05|| ||JohnBoy: damn, <db>! I didn't think this was turning into a dismissive humor contest! Sorry if I won. I actually enjoyed your inguana line much more than my own. |
|Jan-20-05|| ||jirka: I left crafty running analysis for 2 days by mistake (I just left it running), and it's interesting what it thinks now. After 180942779K nodes and looking to depth 21 it gives the situation before move 34 a score of +0.01 and the following best line: 34. ♖f2 ♕g8 35. ♗xb7 a5 36. d4 exd4 37. ♖d1 axb4 38. cxb4 ♕b8 39. ♗c6 ♕xb4 40. ♖xd4 ♕b3 41. ♗xd7 ♕a2+ 42. ♖d2 ♕c4+ 43. ♖d3 ♕a2+ 44. ♖d2 |
|Jan-21-05|| ||patzer2: White's final Blunder was 36. Rxa5??, which allowed the winning 36...Rh1! (with the decisive threat 37...Qg1 ). A better alternative was 36. Nxd6 = with counter chances. |
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