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|Apr-14-04|| ||Honza Cervenka: If 42.Rxc2, then 42...Rxc2+ 43.Kxc2 Ke3
Impressive performance of Reti.
|Aug-03-05|| ||notyetagm: <Honza Cervenka: If 42.Rxc2, then 42...Rxc2+ 43.Kxc2 Ke3 |
Impressive performance of Reti.>
Note how the single Black a7-pawn stops both of White's doubled b-pawns from advancing and promoting, showing how <the weakness of doubled pawns is most pronounced in the endgame>. Black can easily make a passed pawn on the kingside while White cannot do the same on the queenside.
|Nov-24-06|| ||syracrophy: For another great game of a massive central pawn mass, here it is G Michelini vs Asfora Eduardo, 1961|
|Mar-11-07|| ||cpresoz: And for another excellent, older example, see J Esser vs Marshall, 1911.|
|Mar-11-07|| ||laskereshevsky: After this game BOGO disappeared.....
......."where he's end up?!"...
the chess-players were asked around....
....for mounths and mounths nobody saw him...
|May-26-08|| ||Rama: He won Moscow 1925 ahead of the big names but still was defeated by Reti there, too. Reti vs Bogoljubov, 1925|
|Jan-03-09|| ||GrahamClayton: Why not 30...cb2. Is it because Black will lose the b2 pawn after 31. ♖b1|
|Jan-04-09|| ||UnsoundHero: Check out Formanek - Lein. It's the most classic pawn mass game of all !|
|Jan-04-09|| ||Nezhmetdinov: Here is the link to the highly amusing game mentioned above: E Formanek vs A Lein, 1977|
|Feb-02-09|| ||laskereshevsky: At move 28, After a 10 steps-trip the ♘g8 arrived at his white collegue's home in b1...|
Rather when a played game looks like a composition ...
|Apr-17-10|| ||xombie: Shades of the poisoned pawn variation? Very harmonious game by Reti, including the final king march.|
|Apr-17-11|| ||Phony Benoni: One of the classic games, though not well known today. Everyone notices Black's g8 knight making ten moves to wind up on b1, but other thoughts come to mind as well:|
1) Why doesn't everybody play the French? Games like this make it seem invincible.
2) What is Mr. Hypermodern doing in possesion of the Pawn Center That Ate Bogolyubov Alive?
3) How does a great player like Bogolyubov keep getting these awful positions with his pieces cowering in odd corners? Bogoljubov vs Alekhine, 1922 comes to mind as well.
Yes, chess is a game of many mysteries.
|Apr-17-11|| ||Once: <Phony> Some random thoughts which may or may not answer your questions...|
1. The French is not for everyone. I love playing it, but I had to come to terms with the fact that it requires a certain amount of patience. In the French, black tilts the board on a diagonal running along the e6/d5 axis. Black usually plays on the queenside and gives white more space on the kingside.
So it's not an opening for players who want to get at the enemy king as quickly as possible. You have to think more about counter-attack, where you soak up early white pressure than kick him back in the middlegame. I guess it all depends on whether you would rather be the British or the Zulus at Rourke's Drift.
Similarly, some players are good at facing the French and some are not. The cavemen types who try to blow the French off the board with e5 and Qg4 can find that their early aggression fizzles into naught in the middlegame.
2. Hypermoderns like pawn centres too! They just like to take their time about setting one up. A classical player like Bogo thinks "a strong pawn centre is good, so I will set one up as quickly as possible."
By contrast, a hypermodern player thinks "a pawn centre is good, but it needs to be flexible. A rigid pawn centre is little more than a fixed target to be attacked. So I'll let my opponent set up a pawn centre, I'll fix it in place, then dissolve it with attacks from a distance, and finally replace it with a fluid and mobile pawn centre of my own."
3. I don't think Bogo really understood or believed in point 2. And that meant that he sometimes tried to hang on to his classical pawn structures for a little too long. This worked well against opposition from lower down the food chain. But the stronger players of his day were nimble enough to dance around his pawn centres and seriously embarrass them.
A shame really, because I have a soft spot for Bogo. With a bit more work on his openings and technique, he could have been a contender, he could've been some one.
|Apr-17-11|| ||BobCrisp: <The French is one of the few openings I truly hate and will never play. I am a mostly classical player and shutting in the light-squared bishop so early is totally counter-intuitive and antithetical to me.>|
Get her! What's your rating? 1400?
|Apr-17-11|| ||Peligroso Patzer: <Phony Benoni: ***
What is Mr. Hypermodern doing in possesion of the Pawn Center That Ate Bogolyubov Alive?>
This feature of the game left me wondering if "Reti to Roll" would not have been a still more apt pun.
|Apr-17-11|| ||Peligroso Patzer: <Phony Benoni: *** How does a great player like Bogolyubov keep getting these awful positions with his pieces cowering in odd corners? Bogoljubov vs Alekhine, 1922 comes to mind as well.>|
For whatever reason, Bogoljubow seems to be best-known for some of his lost games. This and his two one-sided match losses against Alekhine often result in an under-estimation of his strength. It is worth noting, therefore, that of his 22 decisive games with Reti, Bogoljubow led 15-7. (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...) These two played only 4 draws in 26 games (for an 84.6% rate of decisive games), and Bogo's 17/26 gave him a score of 65.4% head-to-head vs. Reti.
|Apr-17-11|| ||Peligroso Patzer: ... and speaking (as I did in the previous post) of Bogo's famous losses, here's a link to: Reti vs Bogoljubov, 1924.|
|Apr-17-11|| ||Once: <BobCrisp: Get her! What's your rating? 1400?>|
I think you frightened her (or him) away...
|Apr-17-11|| ||cracknik: Wow what a game!|
|Apr-17-11|| ||AylerKupp: Let's not forget what could be the grandaddy of them all: McDonnell vs La Bourdonnais, 1834|
If 2 pawns on the 6th beat a rook, then 3 pawns on the 7th certainly beat a queen.
|Apr-17-11|| ||Phony Benoni: <Peligroso Patzer: This feature of the game left me wondering if "Reti to Roll" would not have been a still more apt pun.>|
Perhaps, except that it's already been used twice before:
Reti vs Rubinstein, 1923 (Sep-25-06)
Lasker vs Reti, 1924 (Apr-09-07)
Interesting to think about Bogolyubov, since that's not done much. The general image seems to be of a over-optimistic beer-drinking buffoon. As his record against Reti shows, he was obviously a very strong practical player but never quite achieved the aura of greatness.
If asked for an "Immortal Game" from each of the great players, you would have an embarrassment of riches for Lasker or Capablanca or Alekhine or Fischer. Now, think of an immortal game by Bogolyubov. For that matter, just off the top of your head name a <win> by Bogolyubov that is well known. Here's one candidate I thought of--but I couldn't even remember Black's name before looking it up.
Bogoljubov vs Spielmann, 1919
|Apr-17-11|| ||scormus: Masterclass positional play by Reti. Bogo style of play is what I can identify with, but it played right into Reti's hands.|
|Apr-17-11|| ||Oceanlake: And there's this:
Eduard Gufeld vs Lubomir Kavalek
|Apr-17-11|| ||Phony Benoni: <Oceanlake> Ah, yes, Gufeld vs Kavalek, 1962. Anyone not familiar with this game should take a look at it. Talk about immortal...|
Not a pawn center, but remarkable in its own right: F J Lee vs H Shoosmith, 1904
|Apr-17-11|| ||FSR: <Interesting to think about Bogolyubov, since that's not done much. The general image seems to be of a over-optimistic beer-drinking buffoon.>|
An ardent Nazi, too, which is why FIDE didn't name him a grandmaster in its first (1950) list. I saw a copy of a letter of his from the 1940s signed "Heil Hitler!" As to his place in history, Edward Winter's Chess Note No. 5515 ("Bogoljubow and Immortality") contained this:
<After Bogoljubow’s death a tribute by E.J. Diemer was published on page 221 of the August 1952 CHESS. Below is an extract:
‘The last time I saw him was in Freiburg, ten days before his death. On 6 June he won a lightning-chess tournament organized among the members of the Freiburg team, for whom he had played at top board since 1950. The next day, he helped Freiburg beat another local team by 8:0 and the same evening he beat the well-known Berlin master Mross (in the last tournament game of his life) to help Freiburg register a 4˝-3˝ win against a team (Berlin-Eckbauer) which had successfully defeated Luxembourg, Cologne, Basle and Lucerne.
I had a conversation with him then of rare seriousness. As if conscious of the nearness of his end, he spoke, on this last occasion, about – Chess Immortality. I discovered at this late hour in his life, and I pass it on as his closing thought, that Bogoljubow wanted his chess to be regarded as an art and himself as an artist. He feared, he said, that not one of his games, even from the great tournament at Moscow in 1925, the zenith of his career, would be deemed worthy of inscription in the scrolls of immortality. So high did he set his ideals. And so sceptically did he look back over his 40 years of masterly endeavour. Luckily the chess world will not share his pessimism. Countless masterpieces of play remain to assure him the immortality he sought.’>
Unfortunately, I agree that Bogoljubow is pretty much forgotten these days. And no, I can't think of any famous games that he won.
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