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Frank James Marshall vs Efim Bogoljubov
"Frankie Goes to Hollywood" (game of the day Jul-16-2016)
New York (1924), New York, NY USA, rd 18, Apr-10
Torre Attack: Classical Defense (A46)  ·  1-0
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May-22-10
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  NM JRousselle: This has got to be my favorite Marshall.

I was a bit disappointed this game did not win 1st Brilliancy Prize. Reti's game vs Bogo was nice, but Bogo defended poorly in that game--as he did in this game.

The Brilliancy Prize typically goes to a game winner, but if I had been the judge in 1924, I might have given dual prizes to Marshall and Alekhine. Just watching that pawn go from b6 to f2 is amazing.

May-23-10
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  Once: <minasina> Your guess is as good as mine for the pun. CG don't often explain themselves. Instead they leave it to us to work it out. Or in some instances come up with a better explanation.

For me, the game is OTT entertainment, with a king hunt to rival the T-1000 chasing Sarah Connor. If chess games were films, this would be a summer blockbuster. But there may be a far more subtle explanation.

May-23-10
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  SugarDom: I have no problem identifying the pun, maybe because i grew up to 80's music...
May-23-10
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  minasina: <Once>, thanks for answer and pictures of Arnold in my mind.

<SugarDom: I have no problem identifying the pun>.

I agree with you. I either have no problem <identifying> the pun. If you were talking to me, you apparently missed my initial point.

May-23-10
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  Calli: <minasina> Hollywood as in glamorous or glitzy. Marshall won like in a Hollywood action movie.

<SugarDom maybe because i grew up to 80's music...>

We all have obstacles to overcome in life. :-)

Nov-08-11  sevenseaman: I think Marshall saw much farther than most in his time. In today's context he would be a Super GM even though he never won the world title.
Nov-08-11  AnalyzeThis: Marshall's opening ideas are absolutely amazing. Spassky said once they should build a statue to Frank Marshall.
Jan-18-12
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  Phony Benoni: For those who asked, Reti vs Bogoljubov, 1924 won the first brilliancy prize.
Oct-10-13  Howard: There was indeed a lot of flak when the judges awarded the first brilliancy prize to Reti, and in my view, this was understandable. Soltis in his book about the top 100 games of the 20th century, actually lists the Reti game as five of the most OVERRATED games played during that time...and he is quite correct !
Jul-02-16  companys: Why is he correct? Alekhine was of different opinion when commenting the game. See also the notes of one of the arbiters under the Reti - Bogo game.
Jul-16-16
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  piltdown man: I thought it was New York?
Jul-16-16
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  tpstar: A 2009 Pun Contest entry which did not make the Top Thirty.

<a band of almost no talent whose major hits had to be .... ahem ... redubbed by session musicians. I read somewhere that just about the only bit of Relax which was performed by Frankie was the singing by Holly Johnson. Almost everything else was kindly donated by others, especially Ian Dury's band, the Blockheads.>

Music executives were stunned when these guys could not play their own instruments. Outside of England, FGTH is charitably remembered as a two hit wonder.

https://youtu.be/7WZ33w3B8Hw

https://youtu.be/RTOQUnvI3CA

Enjoy the game. =)

Jul-16-16  RookFile: Always a pleasure to play over these incisive attacks by Marshall.
Jul-16-16  The Kings Domain: Fine victory by Marshall. One would like to whisper to Bogoljubov prior to his fatal moves in the end, "Relax! Don't do it!".
Jul-16-16
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  offramp: Day 7. The Great Pun Drought continues. Even notoriously crappy puns are being dragged from the past and reused.

This child 👶 has not seen a good pun in nearly a year.

But you CAN help, simply by sending as little as $5 a month to User: offramp.

Jul-16-16  john barleycorn: <offramp> the cheque is in the mail
Jul-16-16  morfishine: <HeMateMe: I think a better pun would have been "Another 'efim Marshall brilliancy!"> LOL, excellent; sadly, the people who understand what actually constitutes a pun are far outnumbered by those that don't and vote
Jul-16-16
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  thegoodanarchist: <Upon this move, Marshall announced "mate in five". >

This is the proper way to deal with a rude opponent who refuses to resign.

Jul-16-16  morfishine: Whats interesting is why <30...Bxe1> doesn't work
Jul-16-16
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  jith1207: <<I think a better pun would have been "Another 'efim Marshall brilliancy!"> LOL, excellent>:

Actually, if the pun had been that, then the criticism would be that "Another poor play on Name, again, where's the pun?"

<Rohde rhymes with road, which once again leaves us begging the question: "What's the pun?" *****>

Sad. That's what happens when criticism comes out whatever the situation is. We have a proverb in our language - "If consumed greedily, even Life's elixir would end up being your poison". It applies to the critics as well.

Jul-16-16  morfishine: <jith1207> Nice try, but its been stated, and I agree, that sometimes it is actually effective to utilize the player's names with word-play or an actual pun. Usually its not, but occasionally it is funny and/or effective. Here, its funny

Most of the time, these aren't even puns in the first place over here at the GOTD. Also, a considerable percentage of criticism aimed at the GOTD has been weighted on quality of the game, with no mention of the pun at all. So my question to you is: "Have you been reading the GOTD posts at all, or do you even know what a real pun is?"

We have a saying from my country, the great country of Texas: If you don't know what you are talking about, its probably best to just stfu

*****

Jul-17-16  drleper: <mofishine: We have a saying from my country, the great country of Texas: If you don't know what you are talking about, its probably best to just stfu>

Haha wow that's quite an intense reaction to someone commenting on people being overly critical. Can you imagine these conversations going on in real life? "you know nothing! best you just stfu!" Yeah right, give me a break :D

By the way, in case anyone is wondering, a pun is <"the humorous use of a word in such a way as to suggest two or more meanings, or of words of similar sound with different meanings; an instance of this; a play on words">. Thanks Oxford, now the secret is out and everyone knowz ;P

Jul-17-16
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  jith1207: <Morfishine> Your chess knowledge is great, and I have benefited from that a lot., just like I try to take the positives mostly from others. However, there are times when you portrait yourself as a person who has not matured with his age.

I have traveled and lived in your country, I have great friends and I admire many of the aspects of the different cultures as well. I have understood the world more than you are, so I have more rights to talk like that to you. But I don't do that even if you try to induce, because a good tempered person would be able to conduct himself well even in internet hiding under anonymous identity as you do.

You don't own ChessGames, so tone down your comments to make this a better place for visitors. As <drleper> explains with dictionary in hand, it is really that simple. There is no need to get yourself twisted over something that is pure fun. I don't argue with you not to post criticism, but I understand that you are beyond the stage where you can change yourself.

We have another proverb: "If you can't practice at age 5, you are not going to at 50". Or as you need help in your language - "Old habits die hard". Well, carry on. Live in your small world, trying to bluster about your wisdom vainly in the internet.

Jul-18-16
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  kevin86: a nice Marshall win in the famous 1924 tournament in NYC.
Jul-25-16  andrea volponi: 21...Tc8!!=
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