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|Dec-08-09|| ||WhiteRook48: 23...Qxg3+ duh!!|
|Dec-08-09|| ||Once: <dzechiel> Fully agree. I think the difficulty level is about right, barring the occasional glitch (which anyway gives us plenty to talk about).|
If chess is to survive against the simpler pleasures of poker and the like, we need new players, and that means keeping Mondays and Tuesdays relatively simple. The rest of us just need to develop our tweazy goggles, so we filter out the "too easy for a ???day" comments.
|Dec-08-09|| ||goodevans: <remolino: Spent ages (5 minutes) trying to make 23...Ne4 work...>|
<remolino: [2nd posting] ... I suggest CG ups the difficulty level a notch.>
Something about the juxtaposition of your postings amused me. ;)
As for the difficulty level, I quite often comment when I don't think it's right in the hope that such criticism is taken constructively. Today's puzzle, though, combines the themes of sacrifice, fork and pin so, whilst easy enough for a Tuesday, it's beyond what you'd normally expect for a Monday.
|Dec-08-09|| ||MaczynskiPratten: As others have said, a very un-Botvinnik-like game. Had he been on the vodka the night before? Several early moves look odd, and after 22 Ne2? Rxe3 White already seems to be in desperate trouble and almost paralysed.|
If 23 Qxe3 (apparently getting 2 Rooks for the Q and P) Qh2+! 24 Bg2 Rxe3 25 Kxe3 Qxg2. If 23 Ng1 Ne4+! and if now 24 Kxe3 Qf4+ 25 Ke2 Qxd2#! If 23 Nc1 Rxe1, and 23 Ng3 is refuted as shown in the game.
|Dec-08-09|| ||Quentinc: <Something about the juxtaposition of your postings amused me. >
Goodevans, that was a deliciously subtle way of putting it.|
Personally, I did not find this too easy for a Tuesday. In fact, I found it harder than last Sunday's "insane" puzzle and last Saturday's "very difficult," having wasted time on some of the other tempting lines before Qxg3+ fell out of a tree and hit me on the head.
|Dec-08-09|| ||fyad reject: considered and immediately discarded the correct move because i didnt realize 24. Kxg3 pins the f-pawn. gave up after looking at a billion other lines for like 10 mins. seemingly no end to the "easy" puzzles i can fail|
|Dec-08-09|| ||muralman: missed it. I agree..... this one was harder than Sunday. That is Ok with me, but, being this is Monday, I told myself not to complicate things.... Keep things simple. I got it wrong on all counts.|
|Dec-09-09|| ||al wazir: <gofer: Some have suggested that 22 Ne2 was poor, but what were the alternatives? . . . 22 ... Qh2
and Ph3 is lost . . .>
That's not obvious: 23. Qd1 Qxh3 24. Bxc4! Bxg4 (24...dxc4? 25. Rh1; 24...Nxg4 25. fxg4 Bxg4 26. Rh1 Bxd1 27. Rxh3 Bg4 28. Rg3 Be6 29. Bd3) 25. Rh1 Qxf3+ 26. Qxf3 Bxf3 27. Kxf3 dxc4 28. Rxh6.
|Jun-29-10|| ||Sularus: the pun is "Coat of Many Colors" i take it|
|Jun-29-10|| ||xenophon: Botvinnik 'kotov' in his prime?|
|Jun-29-10|| ||The Rocket: Botvinnik was tactically the weakest world-champion by far.|
|Jun-29-10|| ||Marmot PFL: Kotov was a powerful combination player. Sometimes he missed other players combos (they said he lacked a sense of danger) but if they gave him a chance almost never did.|
|Jun-29-10|| ||kevin86: The pin enables the fork that catches the queen.|
|Jun-29-10|| ||Chessmensch: What was Botvinnik thinking when he played 19. a4? What a waste and disaster!|
|Jun-29-10|| ||keypusher: <The Rocket: Botvinnik was tactically the weakest world-champion by far.>|
The Rocket is chessgames' weakest kibitzer by far.
|Jun-29-10|| ||www.behoitsda.at: 23.Ng3 what a blunder|
|Jun-29-10|| ||chrisowen: Snide it was counter punching c5. Eye book of changes 7c5 is the divination. Wide of the mark page Bf1 beef lies over staggered wings. Also A4 steams away yet launders little. Kotov rings out the e3 backwardness staffing efile down. White gets dazzled for his sin king 24.Kxg3 get washed away.|
|Jun-29-10|| ||Everett: <Chrisowen> you should write a book filled with your unique annotations!|
|Jul-01-10|| ||chrisowen: <Everett..filled dig> Sorry heavy delay again, often issue white faces small flake - in defence this line. Capturing cageyness Kotov vets pain down white, good signals it e3. Inquisition flying baron rook sets up the finish, edge horse wangles off q's delivery. You authorise brain swipe for five mins, then books crop up this nex gaf thing? :)|
|Sep-05-10|| ||Eric Schiller: I have a video of the finish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR-K...|
|Dec-26-12|| ||perfidious: < keypusher: <The Rocket: Botvinnik was tactically the weakest world-champion by far.>
The Rocket is chessgames' weakest kibitzer by far.>|
The kibitzer in question claims a 2000+ Elo, for what that's worth.
Of course, you have others here who aver most forcefully that none of the greats can or could play, ad nauseam (heavy emphasis on the nausea).
|Jul-31-14|| ||plang: A disastrous opening for White; 7 Bg5?! was an experiment that backfired rather than the more usual 7 e3. 14 Nf4?! was not a good square for the knight. 16 Rhe1 would have been better than Botvinnik's 16 h3?!. After 20..c4! White was positionally busted. Relatively best would have been 23 Qxe3..Qh2+ 24 Bg2..Rxe3 25 Kxe3..Qxg2 26 Rh1..Ne4! 27 fxe..Qxe4+ though Black should win easily here.|
|Jul-31-14|| ||RookFile: I think it might be an equal game after 8. e3. Instead, f3 lead to problems. It's not a developing move and it weakens the e3 square. After 8. e3 cxd4, I guess white has to interpolate 9. Bxf6 Qxf6, and only then play 10. cxd4. The game then may be headed towards a draw.|
|Jul-31-14|| ||ughaibu: You sound like Irving Chernev.|
|Oct-20-15|| ||jerseybob: 12.Kf2 is an ugly move to have to make in a Nimzo. Petrosian-Botvinnik, 1963 World Chp. Match Game 1, also a Nimzo(but different variation) featured that same move by white with the same result.|
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