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Mar-21-08
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| Knight13: <Why not 28... Rxc3> Because Tal decided that ...Bf4 is better, or that he missed it. |
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Mar-21-08
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| Knight13: 28...Rxc3 should be the best move. I couldn't find any refutation for White. |
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| Apr-11-08 |
| AAAAron: I wonder how Tal, in his prime, would contend with someone of Kramnik's nature..? |
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May-11-08
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| plang: 9..Qb6 is rarely played nowadays because of 10 c5. 14..Rfc8 seems odd since the queens rook is the more logical choice for c8 but Tal's choice is, in fact, an example of his "psychological" style. Gallagher: " Tal was trying to disguise his real intentions - to attack on the kingside with ..f5." 15 Rb1 seems unnecessary and makes the ..f5 break stronger. Tal's opinion was that the knight sacrifice 21..Nf4 was forced because all other continuations were bad but Kasparov felt that black would have been fine after 21..Nf6. Botvinnik's decision to get the queens off with 25 Rxb2 ended up being the losing move; the complications after 25 Bxf3 would have favored white. Tal pointed out that 28..Rxc3 29 Rbxc3..Rd1 30 Rc4..Bb2 would have won more quickly. |
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| May-22-08 |
| dTal: <<AAAAron>: I wonder how Tal, in his prime, would contend with someone of Kramnik's nature..?>
Fairly easily I think. The difference in tactical ability alone would be overwhelming. |
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Jun-23-08
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| ChessYouGood: 14...Rfc8 is the psychological move of the century given the later knight sac. Tal describes in his Life and Games that he was attempting to lure Boty into play on the queenside - and indeed Boty immediately, and far too slowly places his rook on B1 only to be kicked out by the bishop once Tal plays the inevitable f5 and retakes with his bishop. A brilliant study on how to outfox an opponent, how to gain the initiative as black, and a great example of Boty's inferiority to Tal once the play becomes sharp and 'un-positional'. I love it how Tal, who acknowledges that he missed 28...Rxc3, finds himself after all the fireworks with an extra passed pawn. The guy was awesome. |
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| Oct-25-08 |
| CapablancaFan: That's why I like going over Tal games every once in awhile. More often than not, when he plays, the sacrifices flow like water. But you sense he doesn't do it to be flashy, but just part of a normal course of action as the most expedient way to achieve his objective. |
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| Oct-25-08 |
| andrewjsacks: Botvinnik would have had no chance against a healthy Tal in the rematch. |
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Oct-25-08
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| al wazir: In the game as played I think black wins with 27...Rxc3! 28. Rbxc3 Rd1 29. Rc8+ (29. Rc7 Bb2) Bxc8 30. Rxc8+ Kf7 31. Rc7+ Kf8 32. Rc8+ Ke7 33. Rc7+ Kd8 34. Rxg7 Rxe1 35. Bf3 Rh1+ 36. Bxh1 d1=Q. |
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| Oct-25-08 |
| Silverstrike: <al wazir> Yes, Tal mentions a similar line in his autobiography on p. 198, but on the following move, 28...Rxc3 29.Rbxc3 Rd1 30.Rc4 Bb2 . |
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| Oct-25-08 |
| Chess Carnival: just WOW !!! |
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Oct-25-08
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| Chessmensch: This game is discussed in detail in The Mammoth Book of the World's Greatest Chess Games (Burgess, Nunn and Emms) on page 240. |
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| Oct-25-08 |
| traction: <kevin86> I think all the gotd since WC started have been from the previous WC matches! PS I love this game by tal...I used to love playing KID, slowly grew tired of just having one repertoire against 1d4 so started experimenting with various other systems...none of them I find as exciting as KID though |
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Oct-25-08
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| kevin86: In this continuing serial of WC games,this may be the best yet. Thanks to this site,Tal is given an increased historic impact and not lost among the series of Soviet World Title holders. |
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| Oct-25-08 |
| HannibalSchlecter: I like how all the craziness simplifies into a normal looking endgame as if nothing strange had happened. |
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Oct-25-08
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| al wazir: <Silverstrike>: Yes, I know it's similar. Since Tal didn't mention it, I have my doubts. But it looks to me as if Rxc3 also wins if played on move 27. I posted my analysis above, for what it's worth. |
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| Oct-25-08 |
| wvkevin: Botvinnik's 20th move (exf5) was the short sighted error that allows the Knight sacrifice to work. Tal realized he would get two pawns back immediately, plus creating 2 isolated pawns on the King side. As the game played out it proved to be a small enough of an advantage to win the endgame for Tal. Not so much a genius sacrifice as it was eyeing a moment of opportunity the moment it presented itself. Most players would not have sighted that move for sure. |
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| May-07-09 |
| dTal: Tal missed 28. ... Rxc3! and ... Rd1 to follow, which would have finished the game off immediately. Even the greatest tactician in history missed a few now and then! Of course it was of no consequence as the game was won already, but I think Tal would have loved to have finished it off like that, given that he often lost won games trying to win them prettily! |
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| May-07-09 |
| dTal: Sorry, I saw above that many people had mentioned the 28... Rxc3! line. |
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| Jun-21-09 |
| ForeverYoung: a few days I played through this game on my board. this is one of the most awesome sacrifices Tal ever made when you take into account WHO he was sacrificing against. I like what he says in his book about the knight sac: suffice it to say that the arguements about this move are pointless. If the sacrifice is proved incorrect then the fault lies not with this move but the 14th. Tal had said "a" with that move and had to say "b". from a purely practical viewpoint it is an excellent move which gives black some chances and white a chance to go wrong. |
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| Aug-08-09 |
| Crocomule: My father's generation always called this the "You don't know my Mischa" game... something about Koblentz. Any old-timers out there wish to explain this? |
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Aug-08-09
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| talisman: <Crocomule> Koblents was analyzing backstage with journalists when he made this statement..."just then tal's 21st move came like a thunderclap." |
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| Oct-16-09 |
| WhiteRook48: actually 21...Nf4 is really tactical
after 22 gxf4 exf4 if white does not hand a pawn back he falls into 23 Bxa7 b6! followed by 24...Qa5 all other moves beside 23 Bd2 and 23 Bxa7 (?) and white loses the B immediately |
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| Nov-13-09 |
| M.D. Wilson: <dTal: <<AAAAron>: I wonder how Tal, in his prime, would contend with someone of Kramnik's nature..?> Fairly easily I think. The difference in tactical ability alone would be overwhelming.> What a strange statement. How does one measure the difference? You can't. You'd think, as chess players, kibitzers would be less speculative. |
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| Dec-15-09 |
| PKNJ: Kibitzers love to speculate. We kibitz!
I just wanted to say on this site, which has brought forth so much love and appreciation for Tal, that this is my favorite game of all time. The titanic nature of the clash, the audacity of Tal's play, the good humor and honesty of his annotations ... I can't add to the analysis here. All I can say is that the variations stemming just from moves 14 to 25 will keep you busy for years, while the game continuation itself will give you joy just as long. |
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