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Mikhail Botvinnik vs Efim Geller
team 1966  ·  English Opening: Great Snake Variation (A10)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Kibitzer's Corner
Dec-28-10
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  jmboutiere: Kosten, in The Dynamic English pag 20 says white is better because of the attack, but the truth is that the position is equal, Rybka 3 + 0.25, no mistake made by black.
Dec-28-10  ughaibu: It would be helpful if you specified a move number. In any case, how do you justify attributing "truth" to Rybka? I expect that Kosten means the position is easier for white to play, because of the attack, and a game that is easier to play is better, if one wants to win, than a game which is harder to play. So, Kosten may well be expressing a "truth".
Dec-28-10  Marmot PFL: I remember Watson, is his book on the English, saying that such as this are not convertible to wins against good defense (which is a general truth, otherwise they would be ).
May-23-12
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  HeMateMe: Very aggressive chess from Botvinnik. And, in the ending, he worked hard to get the Queens off the board, no can do.
May-23-12  DanielBryant: The above discussion is a good example of why I think computers have had a negative effect on chess.
May-23-12  King Death: <DanielBryant> When computers are used without understanding it's the same as uncritically using annotations or following book lines always has been, no matter how strong or weak the player is.

Then there's another kind of mistake, a player wins a game with an opening (Tal vs Larsen, 1958) and doesn't analyze it completely before trying it again (Tal vs Korchnoi, 1959). I think Korchnoi told Bronstein about the improvement in that Soviet championship but Bronstein couldn't believe that Tal would go into it again so he avoided it and was shocked to see the position come on the board in Tal-Korchnoi.

May-23-12
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  parisattack: Looks like B is winning up to move 30 or so. Anyone with an engine check moves 30-40 for white improvements?
May-23-12
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  ray keene: 36 Qxb7 Qxd4 37 Qa6 shd do the trick and thus crown a superb positional and strategic performance by Botvinnik. Sadly he threw the win away.
May-23-12
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  ray keene: 38 b4 also looks like a white win
May-23-12
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  parisattack: Thank you!
May-24-12
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  Benzol: Thanks <Ray> for pointing out where Botvinnik went wrong. Maybe Botvinnik was fatigued as the game approached the adjournment? Actually IIRC he was in very good form throughout this event and scored some great wins otherwise.
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