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|Dec-06-07|| ||kevin86: Beautiful or brutal? Can a game be both?
I see this game as surgery;once white opened his opponents position,he very accurately,built an attack until the king was caught. I would call it brutal but stylish.
|Dec-06-07|| ||Riverbeast: I used to play the Latvian when I was younger...an interesting line in this opening, after 3. Nxe5, is 3. Nc6 !?|
After 4. Qh5+ g6 5. Nxg6 Nf6 white has to move his queen to either h4 or h3 to maintain the pin.
If 6. Qh3 fxe4 7. Nxh8 d5 ->
If 6. Qh4 Rg8 7. Nxf8 Rg4 8. Qh6 Rxe4+ (when have you ever seen a rook developed like this so early in a game?) 9. Kd1 <if 9. Be2 Nd4 10. Nc3 Qe7 > Ng4 10. Qh5+ Kxf8 11. Qxf5+ Kg7 and 12...d5 is coming next.
A wild line: black sacrifices material to gain massive development tempi.
|Dec-06-07|| ||slomarko: <After 4. Qh5+ g6 5. Nxg6 Nf6 white has to move his queen to either h4 or h3 to maintain the pin. > funny a couple of days ago i tried to play this opening for the first time in my life and this line was played.|
|Dec-06-07|| ||Riverbeast: <slomarko> If you're curious, and want to check out a wild game in this line, here one I played as black against Israel Zilber in Washington Square Park. He was the man made famous in 'Searching for Bobby Fischer' (Nicknamed the 'Sheriff', talked to himself, was famous for beating Tal, etc.) |
It was not a tournament game but a slow game played without a clock, for money:
1) e4 e5 2) Nf3 f5 3) Nxe5 Nc6 4) Qh5+ g6 5) Nxg6 Nf6 6) Qh4 Rg8 7) Nxf8 Rg4 8) Qh6 Rxe4+ 9) Kd1 Ng4 10) Qh5+ Kxf8 11) Qxf5+ Kg7 12) b3 d5 13) Bb2+ Kg8 14) Qf3 Ne3+! 15) Kc1 Nxc2! 16) Bd3 <if 16. Kxc2 Nb4+ 17. Kc3 d4+ 18. Kxb4 Qd6+ 19. Kc4 Qa6+ 20. Kb4 c5+ 21. Kxc5 b6+ 22. Kb4 Qa5+ 23. Kc4 Ba6 #> N2d4 17) Qg3+ Rg4 18) Qe3 Qf6 19) Nc3 Nb4 20) Nb5? <20. Bb1 Bf5 would have been better> Qc6+ 21) Nc3 Nxd3+ 22) Qxd3 Bf5 23) Qf1 Re8 24) f3 Rg6 25) g4 Ne2+ 26) Kd1 Bd3 27) Qf2 d4 <white played further but 0-1>
|Dec-06-07|| ||fm avari viraf: A pure synthesis of lethal power & grace that nailed the coffin of poor Mikenas! [ In 1969, I saw a movie "Mikenas Gold" starring Clint Eastwood, Omar Sheriff a wonderful Bridge player & others. I'm sure you all liked it too.]|
|Dec-06-07|| ||tatarch: Player with the most entertaining catalogue of games: Morphy? Fischer? Tal? I vote Bronstein.|
|Dec-06-07|| ||patzer2: Bronstein displays three beautiful "removing the guard deflections" to finish off this game. The first is 20. Rxf8+! threatening to win most of Black's minor pieces if he immediately recaptures. The second is the neat Knight Fork deflection 22. Nb5+!!, which puts Black into a mating web after the forced 22...cxb5 23. Qxb5 . The final nail in the confin is the pretty two-move mate with 24. Re7+! Rxe7 25. Qc6#.|
|Dec-06-07|| ||ajk68: 24. Re7+! Wow!
I probably would have started with Rc1+ - a mate in 4 (if I didn't make a mistake) versus the mate in 2.
|Dec-06-07|| ||keypusher: <ajile> <Dennis Monokroussos on chessbase.com claims the Latvian is garbage.
Based on this one game?>
Judged from your link, he bases his claim on a lot more than that.
|Dec-06-07|| ||Riverbeast: Well to be honest, I gave up the Latvian (except in blitz games) because if white doesn't go for the sacrificial
lines, he has certain positional methods which gives him an enduring edge.|
|Dec-06-07|| ||Infohunter: <daacosta: Is this the game where Bronstein played 6. Be2 for the very first time? I am trying to find the very, very first game with this variation>|
This is it, according to the <cg> database.
<herby rawley: bronstein in "200 open games" comments
on 6 Be2... pithy and illuminating
get a good overview of latvian in a few terse lines>
I have a copy of that book, as well as one of Bronstein's Zürich International Tournament Book of 1953. Excellent commentator.
|Dec-06-07|| ||cionics: 15 Bg5+, what a nice move! And it just keeps getting better from there. |
I am with "Tatarch" in voting for Bronstein.
|Dec-31-07|| ||Infohunter: Update on the 6. Be2 line: The site http://www.chesslive.de./ gives the following game:|
[Black "Paz y Barriga,Gustavo"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 3.Nxe5 Qf6 4.d4 d6 5.Nc4 fxe4 6.Be2 d5 7.Ne3 c6 8.c4 Bb4+
9.Nc3 Ne7 10.0-0 0-0 11.f3 Bxc3 12.bxc3 Qg6 13.fxe4 dxe4 14.Rxf8+ Kxf8 15.Bh5 Qf6 16.Ba3 Kg8
17.Qe2 g6 18.Rf1 Qg5 19.Ng4 Kg7 20.Qxe4 c5 21.Bc1 1-0
I assume this is the From for whom From's Gambit is named. I've never heard of Paz y Barriga.
|Jul-12-09|| ||chillowack: <ajk68: 24. Re7+! Wow!
I probably would have started with Rc1+ - a mate in 4 (if I didn't make a mistake) versus the mate in 2.>
That's not a mate in 4.
I'm not even sure that's a forced mate at all.
|Jul-07-10|| ||GrahamClayton: This game was played at Rostov-on-Don in the semi-final of the 1941 USSR Championship. The date was the 23rd of June, the day after the German invasion of the USSR. The tournament was cancelled, with several players joining the Red Army.|
|Feb-15-12|| ||OBIT: Some authorities, e.g. GM Larsen, think the 6. Be2 line is the simplest way to prove advantage to White against the Latvian, with this Bronstein-Mikenas encounter essentially serving as the refutation to the opening. Well, there are probably several ways White can play against the Latvian to gain a substantial edge, but that isn't the thinking behind 2...f5 at all. The typical Latvian player is not looking to grab the initiative right off the bat. (Of course, he is happy to take the initiative when his opponent does not know the opening and responds with something dubious.) The typical Latvian player is trying to create a position where, while he may be objectively inferior, the moves to maintain the advantage are not so easy to find. Basically, he is gambling that he can outplay his opponent from an inferior position, either with superior tactical play or by utilizing his greater familiarity and experience with the opening. |
The 6. Be2 line certainly fits in with the Latvian player's philosophy. Objectively speaking, White gets the advantage, but the middle game is quite sharp, where one inaccuracy by White can be enough to turn the tables. Since, the typical club player doesn't have Bronstein as an opponent, the opening can work quite well at most levels of play.
If you really want to tick off a Latvian opponent, try 4. Nc4 (instead of 4. d4), and if 4...fxe4 5. Nc3 Qf7 6. Ne3 c6 7. d3. White maintains an advantage without the usual crazy tactics often seen in the Latvian. The point to remember is that the Latvian player is looking for a wild and wooly game, not one where he is trying to draw an inferior endgame. Often the easiest way to beat him is to bore him.
|Feb-15-12|| ||drukenknight: 16...c6 looks wrong, as it encourages pawn exchange (black's ahead in material) and does not break the pin. I realize there is a mate on e8 so does 16....Be7 make it any better?|
|Mar-02-12|| ||profK: How not to play the Latvian !!|
|Aug-20-12|| ||Everett: <drukenknight: 16...c6 looks wrong, as it encourages pawn exchange (black's ahead in material) and does not break the pin. I realize there is a mate on e8 so does 16....Be7 make it any better?>|
At first look, I would look at <16..Be7 17.Rxe7 Kxe7 18.Bxf6+ gxf6 19.Qe2+ followed by 20.Qe6> This looks like trouble.
|Aug-21-12|| ||Cyphelium: <Everett & drukenknight> After 16. -e7 17. xe7 xe7 18. xf6+ gxf6 19. e2+ f8 20. e6 h6, is there anything convincing for white? A simpler solution might be 16.- e7 17. e2. Now 17.- f7 loses a piece to 18. xc2 and 17.- xg5 18. xe7+ c8 19. xf6 xf6 20. d7+ b8 21. e8+ is game over as well.|
|Aug-21-12|| ||Everett: <Cyphelium> thank you kindly for that variation. Indeed it looks convincing. Here is another point where the idea of reversing the move order could prove helpful.|
|Aug-22-12|| ||plang: Bronstein was proud of 6 Be2 which was an innovation aimed at making rapid use of the f-file. 11..Nf6 would be an improvement over 11..h5?!.|
|Aug-22-12|| ||Everett: <plang> I think Bronstein also like the idea that his 6.Be2 cuts across Black's usual plan of planting his Q on g6.|
|Aug-22-12|| ||perfidious: < Riverbeast: I used to play the Latvian when I was younger...an interesting line in this opening, after 3. Nxe5, is 3. Nc6 !?....>|
Did any of your opponents ever play 4.Nxc6, a move I've seen mentioned by Ray Keene? After this, Black gets free development, but I don't really see where he has enough for the pawn.
|Feb-26-13|| ||Travis Bickle: Wow what a wild game!|
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