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|Dec-14-06|| ||Grampmaster: After 32.Qxf5 I couldn't find the right continuation until I peeked. A great Grandmaster combination too deep for me.|
|Dec-14-06|| ||Stonewaller2: Saw the key and said "there's Bronstein up a pawn then, he can win that one," but the late great one had other and better ideas to be sure. Leaving the en prise for that long is something else again. Patience is a bitter pill only the strongest can swallow.|
|Dec-14-06|| ||YouRang: Wooo! I missed it, but I sure enjoyed it. I looked at 31...Nxg3, but then decided "then Q takes Q and I've got nothing".|
I didn't quite have what it takes to peer deeply into the subtle threats, and especially 36...Nb3!!, protecting my rook, forcing the king to back away from my rook, and giving me time to *finally* recapture the queen.
Brilliant play, a little beyond Thursday level, IMO.
|Dec-14-06|| ||AwaitingBlunder: Is it possible for White to save his game with 33) f4!?|
|Dec-14-06|| ||greensfield: 31...Nxd3 was the obvious first move to look at as the Knight can't be taken as the white knight is pinned.
(A)<32. Qxf5> Black now has 32...Nxe1
(a) <33. Bxe1> Rxe1 34. Kh2 gXf5 35. Rxf7 Rb1 36. Rxf5 Rxb4
and Black is a piece up
(b) <33. Kh2> gxf5 34. Rxf7 Nd3 35. Rxf5 Black is a piece up
(c) <33. Kf1> Nc2 34. Ke2 ( not 34. Bc1? as Black as in the game
ends up 2 pieces up) Nd4 35. Kd3 or Ke3 gxf5 Black is a piece up
(B)<32. Qb7> Black has 32...Qxf2
(a) <33. Kh2> Nxe1 34. Rxf7 Qxg2 35. Qxg2 Nxg2 36. Kxg2
and Black two pawns up
(b) <33. Kh1> Nxe1 34. Rc1 Rxc1 35. Bxc1 e4 36. Qxe4 Bd4
37. Qxe1 Qxe1 38. Kh2 Bg1 39. Kh1 Bf2 40. Kh2 Qg1#
|Dec-14-06|| ||dakgootje: <It's Bronstein week; we certainly will see some real doozzies.>|
Probably. Tomorrow i will have a load of time, so i will spend as long as it takes to be totally sure i solved the puzzle =P
|Dec-14-06|| ||jahhaj: <Is it possible for White to save the game with 33.f4> I think after 33.f4 gxf5 White is simply a piece down.|
|Dec-14-06|| ||jahhaj: Got it eventually. I spent a long time looking at Nxd3 (before or after the queen exchange) without seeing anything. Of course I was blind to the fact that Black need not retake the queen immediately. It was only when I noticed that Black's knight can cover White's kings only flight square that the penny dropped.|
I think my chances of seeing this in a real match would be close to zero.
|Dec-14-06|| ||alphee: Good puzzle. Took me some time to pick Nxd3 as the h3 pawn was a tempting target. I did not see 33.f1 but xf1 that doesn't work and without it there was no obvious solution.|
|Dec-14-06|| ||playground player: Yeah, I got the first two moves, too--but couldn't keep up with DB after that. Meanwhile--why does White resign?|
|Dec-14-06|| ||Towershield: <playground player> K moves gxf5 :)|
|Dec-14-06|| ||aazqua: Just beautiful stuff. Easy for a puzzle but great over the board. The other guy must have felt a little snookered as bronstein clearly saw a couple moves deeper back when he started moving the rook. The last knight move is just icing on the cake; n*r was an easy win as well.|
|Dec-14-06|| ||aazqua: Err. I meant r*r.|
|Dec-14-06|| ||karnak64: This game should be placed next to the word "brilliancy" in the dictionary. I'm absolutely stunned.|
|Dec-14-06|| ||LivBlockade: After 33...c2+ White can safely resign. Black will be at least a piece ahead even without the last couple of tricks. For example, after 34. c1 xc1+; 35. e2 gxf5 is certainly sufficient as after 36. d2 White only wins back one of the lost pieces. Is this a case where the losing player lets his opponent play out the beautiful finish to be a good sport?|
|Dec-14-06|| ||Olympos: Excellent!! RIP David, your ideas will remain immortal.|
|Dec-15-06|| ||Fisheremon: <zb2cr: <eblunt>, I think after White played 32. Qe3, Nxe1; 33. Bxe1, Qf4 threatens to win another Pawn for Black.><artemis> After 32. Qe3 Nxe1 33. e4 is stronger but requires a high accuracy. The simplest way is 33. Qb1 Kf1 34. Qxb4.
The best defense for Black was 32. Qb7, but White could have an winning endgame with two pawns up.|
|Jul-30-07|| ||sanyas: 30.xb5 would have held easily. Why didn't he play that? Even 31.h2 could have saved him. So the combination was not the logical outcome of lengthy positional play, but the result of a sudden collapse by White.|
|Dec-13-10|| ||WhiteRook48: i say even 33 qxg6+ followed by kh2 loses less, but black still wins|
|May-16-11|| ||notyetagm: <karnak64: This game should be placed next to the word "brilliancy" in the dictionary. I'm absolutely stunned.>|
Bronstein was *unbelivably* sharp tactically.
|May-16-11|| ||notyetagm: G Barcza vs Bronstein, 1949|
Unbe-@#$%* -lievable tactical sequence by the genius Bronstein to end this game.
|May-16-11|| ||notyetagm: Game Collection: notyetagm's favorite tactics|
G Barcza vs Bronstein, 1949 31 ... Nf4xd3! Qe4xQf5 Nd3xNe1!!
|May-16-11|| ||notyetagm: <patzer2: The previous web site I gave on chess terminology such as zweischenzug was a bit on the humorous side (eg. blunder -- "the moves I make"). This one is a bit more serious and comprehensive:
Note that the relevance to this game is in the <<<five consecutive "zweischenzug"(!!!!! -.ed)>>> moves Bronstein makes after 31. Nxd3, before capturing the white queen.>
Why is this game not called <THE IMMORTAL ZWISCHENZUG GAME>???
|Sep-03-11|| ||Everett: Oh, here's Bronstein winning a pawn... oh, wait, wow, a whole piece... @#$@%! up two pieces! What just happened?!|
|Aug-24-12|| ||Conrad93: I guess this is what defines a master.
The ability to avoid what seems like the obvious is a trait of Bronstein.
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