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David Bronstein vs Andre Lilienthal
"Bron vs Brain" (game of the day May-14-2010)
URS-ch11 (1952), Moscow URS
King's Gambit: Accepted. Abbazia Defense (C36)  ·  0-1
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Dec-31-06  suenteus po 147: What about 35.Qe7?
Dec-31-06  euripides: <suenteus> Very interesting. Perhaps <35.Qe7> Qf6+ 36 Qxf6 gxf6 when it's not so easy to see a definite win for Black but 37.Kf3 Kf8 38.Kf4 Ke8 39.Kf5 Kd7 40.Kxf6 Rh8 41.Kxf7 Rxh3 42.Bb4 Rh4 43.a3 Rh5 44.Kg6 (or 44.Kf6 a5) Rb5 may do the trick, when Black will win the d pawn with a5 and then the ending should be won with the White king cut off on the rank and file. White could play more slowly with the king and bring the h pawn up but I doubt he can do better than winning the two f pawns as in this line.
Dec-31-06  suenteus po 147: <euripides> I'm glad my suggestion piqued your interest. I take that as a high compliment. From your line, though, it looks like Bronstein's goose was cooked anyway.
Dec-31-06  euripides: <suenteus> thanks for the kind words - but most of my lines fall apart somewhere ...
Jun-24-08  mikhs: Doesn't 16.Nxf6 win a piece?
Am I missing something?
How could both of these players at that level miss it?
Jun-24-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: <mikhs>

No, because after 16. Nxf6+ Qxf6 17. Qxg4, Black has 17...Qxd4+.

Jun-24-08  DefianceX: @mikhs White wins a bishop back with that exchange.

16. Nxf6+ Qxf6 17. Qxg4 Qxd4+ 18. Be3 Qxe3+

Jun-25-08  mikhs: Thank you keypusher and DefianceX.
I should have seen that.
Maybe I should take a little more time to look at the position before posting stupid questions next time :)
Jan-01-09  Ulhumbrus: <mikhs: Thank you keypusher and DefianceX. I should have seen that.
Maybe I should take a little more time to look at the position before posting stupid questions next time :)>
There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers. If you have a question, don't hesitate to ask.
May-14-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  goldfarbdj: Whenever I hear someone say "there are no stupid questions", I remember the time I told a woman my name and she asked me, "Are you sure?"
May-14-10  syracrophy: Two great titans of the past century! Two immortals that have just left us recently (2006 and 2010 - a couple weeks ago!) They're gone (the mortal body is just so stressing, vulnerable and brief) but their souls will still be living in their great games!
May-14-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Once: <goldfarbdj: Whenever I hear someone say "there are no stupid questions", I remember the time I told a woman my name and she asked me, "Are you sure?">

Now that made me laugh! Thank you.

May-14-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  outplayer: Would black win a rook with 21...f5?
May-14-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Once: <outplayer: Would black win a rook with 21...f5?>

Not quite, but I needed computer assistance to find out why. Fritzie gives this line:

21...f5 22. Bc4+ Kh8 23. Ng5!


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and the threat of Nf7+ and Nxd8 saves the white queen. Black does get a slight edge though with 23...Bxh2 as 24. Kxh2 allows 24...Qc7+ 25. Qg3 (or Qf4) Qxc4.

All in all, Fritzie thinks that 21...f5 nets black a pawn. Definitely worth having!

May-14-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Chessmensch: This classic story about stupid questions says it all: Lawyer: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy? Witness: No.
Lawyer: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
Witness: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar. Lawyer: But could the patient have still been alive nevertheless? Witness: It is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law somewhere.
May-14-10  atakantmac: Isn't 36.Qe8+ good?
May-14-10  atakantmac: I'm sorry 33.Qe8
May-14-10
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  SuperPatzer77: White resigns in lieu of 36. Qe8+ Qf8 forcing White to give up his d-pawn and leaving him one rook down. 0-1

SuperPatzer77

May-14-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: Better than Bron vs LeBron-sorry,the leprechaun made me do it-lol
May-14-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  playground player: Two more stupid questions:

"Are you asleep?" (can't be answered yes)

"Why did you do that?" (ask this after someone spills the catsup on the floor or locks himself out of his car with the keys in the ignition, etc.)

May-14-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Once: I used to work for an organisation (a UK Government department, no less) who tested their fire alarms by broadcasting this message:

"This is a test message. Please contact office services if you cannot hear it."

Mind you, my all time favourite is a clever question:

"Mummy, Mummy - the landlord is here. Can you pay him or should I go out to play?"

May-14-10
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  chrisowen: Andre the giant duffs Bronstein up, hooked him using Abbazia Def. Jam the knight for d5 twice and wrestling with his conscience Ne3 will hack. Auf wiedersen man for the knight but it exposes weaknesses in the heart of white. The queen attack weighs heavy and Bron slips dealing with it. 22.g3 would have put up more resistance. Rf2 afford little respite then once dpawn is pushed danger looms again. Trip break legging c4 but Andre has a hold and the matter's resolved when queen's minding back rank over.
May-14-10  rapidcitychess: They have stolen my thunder! ( I used this same pun AND submitted it.)
May-15-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: I remember this from UP THE DOWN STAIRCASE:Please ignore all bells!!!
Jun-10-10  Ulhumbrus: Instead of 15 Ne4, 15 c3 clears the square c2 for the White Queen eg 15...Bg4 16 Qc2
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