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|Oct-24-08|| ||Brown: Around move 12, black has a bishop playing playing proctologist to a lame horse. He needs to talk to his pieces a bit and get some activity. Bronstein tried to solve this with the tricky 12...Qa5, threatening Qxc3 and Nxe2+ with the royal fork. Petrosian sidesteps this with 14.Kh1. Now black's queen is added to list the misplaced pieces.|
This in mind, black may want to play 12.Re8, Preparing Nf8 and a possible f5 or e4.
|Dec-14-08|| ||WhiteRook48: What happened to Petrosian?
"Petrosian blundered! He blundered! He played Ng5 to offer up the Queen!"
|Mar-02-09|| ||WhiteRook48: 36 Ng5 was actually a deep in position sacrifice... but Petrosian forgot all about it. Have you ever blundered a queen like that?? Wow.|
|Mar-12-09|| ||vaskokibika: I make such moves in my games quite often. But once I won a tournament game against a GM with this style:|
Me vs GM
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1. Be5 Rg6 2. Rg4 Rxg4 3. Qxg4
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I'll not post his name, since he is really a nice guy. When he saw my move Qg7, he smiled and say: "Ha, I was just checkmated"
|Nov-14-09|| ||Paraconti: Up to move 34 I don't think Petrosian had played more beautifully. Bronstein must have been upset to win; I'm sure he'd preferred to lose after being outplayed.|
|Jan-26-10|| ||watwinc: Botvinnik is reported as having said this move killed two players - Bronstein had been crushed in one of his key openings, Petrosian left his queen en prise ...|
|Jan-26-10|| ||Petrosianic: <but the idea that Bronstein definitely would have forfeited seems far-fetched (unless someone checked afterwards and determined Bronstein only had one second left or something).>|
That's what happened. Someone picked up the clock to see how much time Bronstein had left, and the flag fell almost instantly.
Petrosian, on the other hand, had plenty of time. He had gotten up, come back to the board, assumed that Black had played Nc6 again, and just moved without looking. He had gotten careless, playing for the adjournment (and for those who don't know what an adjournment is, don't ask. You'd never believe me.)
|Aug-02-10|| ||bmulligan: Keene's Petrosian book is the usual Keene dreck. A nice-looking cover but the annotations are pitiful. Save your money. I wish I had.|
|Aug-02-10|| ||Petrosianic: You're probably thinking of a different book. This game wouldn't have appeared in a book of Petrosian's Best Games (although it might have if Black had resigned on Move 35).|
|Aug-02-10|| ||Hovik2009: the most probable and simplest explanation that you all theorticians overlooked is that while Petrosian was away from the board (to take a leak possibly!) in the bathroom he got direct orders from Soviet travelling abroad teams deligation's KGB attache(the watching dog of the group) to throw the game to Bronstein to benefit a particular player's table standings or maybe a deeply calculated strategical move to preserve current World Champion's All-Russian titleship!|
|Aug-02-10|| ||Petrosianic: Don't quit your day job...|
|Aug-27-10|| ||Lil Swine: if petrosian were lucky, bronstein would have been thinking and analyzing this move for so long and lose on time, better pray harder next time and not make dumb moves|
|Oct-01-10|| ||Everett: After 14..Rb8, Bronstein does not find the opportunity to move Nd7, Bc8 nor Rb8 for the rest of the game. |
12..Re8 followed by ..Nf8 improves the flexibility and scope of black's pieces immediately.
|Jan-18-11|| ||Tigranny: I don't think Tigran blundered much throughout his career, or did he?|
|Mar-19-11|| ||Tigranny: Also, why is this a notable King's Indian Defence, Fianchetto, Yugoslav Variation game? It's just a mistake.|
|Mar-19-11|| ||keypusher: <Tigranny>
The FAQ is your friend.
<On some player pages, tournament pages, and opening pages, there is a list of Notable Games. In the case of player pages, this list highlights some important games that the player has won or drawn....
The lists of notable games are calculated by finding the games which most frequently appear in our users' game collections.
Notable games are chosen democratically by Chessgames members, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of the Chessgames.com staff.>
|Mar-19-11|| ||Tigranny: Sorry keypusher for my error.|
|May-06-11|| ||LIFE Master AJ: I guess Petrosian just blundered ...|
|Sep-08-11|| ||Garech: This should not be given as a notable game for Bronstein!! It's a bit like Spassky's game 1 of 1972 WC match being given as one of Spassky's notable games...|
|Jan-18-12|| ||gezafan: I once played black in the following game. 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nd4 4.Nxd4 exd4 5.0-0 Bc5 6.d3 c6 7.Bc4 d5 8.exd5 cxd5 9.Bb5+ Bd7 10.Bxd7+ Qxd7 11.Re1+ Ne7 12.Nd2 0-0 13.Nb3 Bb6|
Here my opponent startled me with 14.Qg4, a move I hadn't considered. I immediately noticed that my pawn on d4 was attacked twice and defended only once so I immediately looked for ways to defend it. First I looked at 14...Nc6. Then I looked at 14...Nf5. While looking at 14...Nf5 I noticed that our Queens were on the same diagonal. Then I noticed his Queen was undefended. So I played 14...Qxg4.
It was only a rapid game though, not a slow one.
|Mar-03-12|| ||ewan14: Why not 24.... R x f2 ?
25 n X E4 ?
FOLLOWED BY TAKING THE KING'S BISHOP FILE ?
Bronstein's bishp and rook stuck on the queen side ?
|Mar-03-12|| ||Everett: <ewan> my guess is the 24..Rxf2 25.Nxe4 simply gives white a tempo and opens the f-file, which may become more useful for White than black in the long run.|
And black cannot take over the f-file because he is only playing with three pieces vs six. It is actually quite surprising he lasted long enough for Petro to blunder.
|Mar-03-12|| ||King Death: < Everett: <ewan> my guess is the 24..Rxf2 25.Nxe4 simply gives white a tempo and opens the f-file, which may become more useful for White than black in the long run.
And black cannot take over the f-file because he is only playing with three pieces vs six. It is actually quite surprising he lasted long enough for Petro to blunder.>|
Sir, if you can reason things out this far what you wrote above isn't a guess it shows good understanding.
What you say is right in my opinion. Without the pieces buried on the queenside even owning d4 (which usually gives Black at least an equal position in the KID) doesn't amount to anything because White's pieces are much more active.
|Jun-23-13|| ||zydeco: It seems like black had to try ....b6 and ....Bb7 at some point. Maybe on move 24.|
|Jun-23-13|| ||RookFile: He's in trouble then too because he's getting murdered on the dark squares. It's a strange game because 10. Qc1 telegraphs a obvious attempt to play Bh6 and get rid of the fianchettoed bishop. How about something normal like 10....Re8 to preserve the defender of the dark squares?|
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