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|Sep-02-11|| ||Pawn and Two: <DrMal> Thanks for your analysis verifying the missed the winning move, 15.Qxe2!, and for your analysis showing the sacrifice 15.Nd6?, should have only drawn.|
In 2007 I used Fritz 9 to review this game. Considering all the praise that existed for 15.Nd6, I was surprised when Fritz 9 found a win for White with 15.Qxe2, but no win with 15.Nd6.
I posted Fritz's findings on these game pages, but other than comments and analysis from <CharlesSullivan> and <RandomVisitor>, the supposed virtues of 15.Nd6? continued to be praised.
Your analysis and comments will help many on this site to see the actual truth regarding the moves 15.Qxe2!, and 15.Nd6?.
|Sep-02-11|| ||DrMAL: <Jan-21-07 Pawn and Two: <RandomVisitor> Based on Fritz 9's evaluation and analysis, I believe that White is winning in all continuations, after 15.Qxe2!. In previous postings, Fritz provided the following winning line: 15.Qxe2 Nf8 16.Rad1 Be6 17.Ne5 f6 18.d5 Bc8 19.d6 fxe5 20.Bb3+ Ne6 21.dxe7 (3.27) (16 ply). If now, 21...Qxe7, then 22.Qh5.> My apology for not having seen this, once again I re-invented the wheel LOL. Well, it was instructive and hopefully added to dispel the trash Soltis and others spread around, commonplace in chess but this does not make it right or even useful. The reason I became a paying member of this site is because it contains a LOT of really great analysis from players who care about the truth despite all previously misleading hype. My intent was certainly not to wail on Spassky I think he was one of the best players who ever lived (and had a great personality as well), someone to truly admire. He probably felt some sort of weirdness accepting his prize knowing he gambled, I would have too. Because of this gamble I don't regard this game as one of his better ones, his play was normally exemplary of absolute top level chess. Thanx for pointing out your analysis from nearly five years ago, cheers.|
|Sep-03-11|| ||maxi: <K9Empress> I checked up the game you mention, A Filipowicz vs A Tarnowski, 1962, and you are right, it is a little gem. The Queen sacrifice is very nice and there is no defense to it. It was also possible to win with 14.g5, but the Queeen sacrifice is nicer, at least to me, who am not a computer.|
It is clear that White was trying at all times to get the h1 Rook into action along the h-file. Thus he avoided castling. Interesting.
|Sep-15-11|| ||drleper: <DrMAL> No offence against you was intended. I agree the sac leads to a draw, it's just that when I looked at it with the computer, the line was extremely long before it looked obvious to me that it was actually a draw, so I just assumed you would have checked with an engine. You probably looked at it more than I did, no probs.|
|Nov-29-11|| ||Penguincw: 21.b3 was the simply the beginning of the end. |
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|Jan-06-12|| ||King Death: < DrMAL: ...Spassky played a brilliant game (up to move 15 where he turned WSOP player)...>|
It's great having gamblers at my table because they'll crash and burn sometime down the road, hopefully after I take their stack. We even see some of those kamikaze players at the World Series.
|Feb-08-12|| ||drukenknight: in looking over this game again I tend to agree w/ Dr.Mal that objectively the sack does not work and it is confounding to work out the best lines as above analysis of Qxe6 etc shows. I think the reason is that in fact less than good moves were played prior to the sack by both sides and this seems to really mess up a game. So as I look at it, it seems that 6...00 not so great and really 7...Nd7 is bad. If that is the case that on whites 8th move he has superior position he should play as bold as possible with 8 Ng5. I have looked at a few minutes and looks pretty strong...|
|Feb-28-12|| ||drukenknight: another comment, I have only recently been seeing the Abbazia: 3....d5, is no one taking back with the Q; 4...Qxd5? So I dont have to study that?|
|Mar-11-12|| ||kingscrusher: From Russia with love featured this game:
|Aug-11-12|| ||Fanques Fair: DrMAL, after 15- Qe2, Nf6 ! , instead of Nf8(?), seems better for black, pracically equalizing, although White has more space. 16- Nxf6+, Bxf6, 17- Qd3 leads to nothing after ...g6, 18- Bb3, Kg7. I don´t see any other forced lines for White here. Please correct me if I´m wrong, thanks !|
|Sep-14-12|| ||Conrad93: Two Titans of the King's Gambit playing against each other.|
|May-09-13|| ||LIFE Master AJ: http://www.ajschess.com/lifemastera...|
My web page on this game ... just did a complete re-do, and also added a video on this game, as well.
|Aug-01-13|| ||BlackFront: <JoergWalter: <maxi: <JoergWalter> The c5 and d4 Pawns are missing on the wall board.>|
I did not steal them. Seriously, they were removed on purpose by the director (visibility etc.)>
According to John B Henderson:
<The only difference between the two games was that, in the Bond movie, there were no pawns on d4 and c5. This remained a mystery for 40 years until it was revealed that the legendary Bond producers, Albert “Cubby” Broccoli and Harry Saltzman, mistakenly believed there to be a copyright on chess games, so they had the pawns removed from the board.
But this proved to be a critical error, because Black could have drawn at the end by perpetual check with 22 ..Ne6! 23 Ng6 Qc5+ 24 Kh1 Qb5! 25 Bc4 Qc6 26 Qf7+ Kh7 27 Qf5 Ng5! forcing 28 Nf8+ and Ng6+.>
|Aug-04-13|| ||maxi: If it is true, that's a very interesting piece of information. If they were going to change something, it would have been better to change something less central to the position.|
|Sep-14-13|| ||MarkFinan: First time ive been through this game, and its brilliant!
I wouldnt have even thought of downloading any Spassky (or Karpov and "similar" players!) games because even though i acknowledge he was a brilliant Grandmaster, and seems a nice guy... there are more exciting players games to go through.
Im way too old to be studying all different variations of chess in the hope i may one day improve to the point I can benefit financially from the game, (or make LM ;) ) so i tend to stick to the more exciting and tactical players games, Morphy, Tal, Fischer, Kaspy, Carlsen, AJ, etc..etc..
So a genuine surprise for me... I enjoyed the game :-)|
|Sep-14-13|| ||Everett: <MarkFinan>
You love Spassky. You just don't know it yet ;-)
<Larsen vs Spassky, 1970>
|Sep-14-13|| ||MarkFinan: Everett.. Thanks for the link mate, im kind of familiar with the game anyway, but ive posted my comment over there :-)|
|Sep-14-13|| ||talisman: <maxi> saw your avatar...looking forward to the (j d salinger) Seymour Glass documementary.|
|Sep-20-13|| ||maxi: <talisman> Hmmmmmm|
|Sep-20-13|| ||talisman: <maxi> he was an entertainer Salinger watched as a kid...bicycle arist of some kind....I think he's mentioned in "Seymour An Introduction".|
|Mar-14-14|| ||tranquilsimplicity: <MarkFinan> Like yourself I am "too old" to study games of the Masters with the intention of improving, thus competing and benefiting financially from Chess. |
However, like yourself, I love to re-play Master games purely for enjoyment. You may find that Spassky was a lot more tactical than Fischer, Morphy and Magnus Carlsen. In fact history tells us that Spassky was so fiery, tactical that he had to tone down his love of tactical, combinatorial Chess in order to give himself a serious chance for a shot at the World Championship title.
Please see Spassky playing the Closed Sicilian as white, and also other King's Gambit games. You will most definitely enjoy them.#
|Mar-14-14|| ||tranquilsimplicity: Actually Spassky's Closed Sicilians may not be as fiery as his Open Sicilians.#|
|Apr-12-14|| ||dotsamoht: How dare they call this game anything other than The Blue Bird!|
|Apr-12-14|| ||dotsamoht: Intrigued with J.D again after the recent documentary, I nevertheless felt a bit disenchanted at the end of the piece.|
J.D. is the Bobby Fischer of literature.
And, while I was and am a Bobby fan... he was disappointing after he was World Champion.
|Apr-12-14|| ||ewan14: Spassky not an exciting player !
Sorry you do not know much about chess
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