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Robert James Fischer vs David Bronstein
Herceg Novi blitz (1970), Herceg Novi MNE, rd 7, Apr-08
French Defense: Winawer. Advance Variation General (C16)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Annotations by Robert James Fischer.      [15 more games annotated by Fischer]

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Dec-02-04  delterp: Two of the most prominent chess giants in the history of the game. Fischer was never one to hold the French to a high esteem and many opponents tried it against him. The annotations are interesting. Black's chance at counter play involves a pawn sacrifice and then, importantly, capturing AWAY from the king so as to open lines of attack. Fischer willing accepts the iso rather than to even hint at awakening the bishop on b7. However, in response to Fischers note on move 29, I thought 27) Qe2 would be faster. Fischer states the miss of two easy mates. Fun game.
Aug-21-05  wheelchiar bandit: well it is blitz
Aug-21-05  Kangaroo: Fischer's comments are not logically consistent. <French (C16)> is no worse than any other opening system in French.

The counter-attacking chances <( 34...Qf4+ and 35...Rf5 wins for Black. - Fischer) > may look unfair, yet it happened.

I slightly disagree with <<wheelchair bandit>'s comment: <well it is blitz>> - even playing blitz, giant-grandmasters such as Fischer and Bronstein used systems they had thoroughly analyzed before.

Aug-22-05  RookFile: Actually, I quite agree with Fischer.
Black puts all his pawns on white
squres, then exchanges off his good
dark squared bishop. Doesn't make much positional sense. ( 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 b6 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 Ne7 7. Qg4)

Aug-22-05  euripides: Interesting note by Fischer about Byrne's line. Fischer would probably have prepared this line for his match against Petrosian in 1971 and perhaps also in 1970. Certainly Fischer played 3 Nc3 against Petrosian in 1971, and Petrosian had previously played the Winawer with 4...Qd7 with the same idea of the Q-side fianchetto (usually aming at exchange of the white-squared bishops, but actually Black's white squares can then become weak) - unless Fischer was banking on using 4 a3 ?!, with which he lost to Kovacevic, against Petrosian's Winawer. So maybe Fischer knew a refutation; or maybe he was bluffing.

5...Bf8, of course, is more Petrosianesque than Petrosian himself.

Dec-16-07  xeroxmachine: 5...Bf8

Well it worked for ivanchuk against kasparov so it cant be all that bad can it?

Kasparov vs Ivanchuk, 1995

Sep-12-08  joelsontang: where can i get notes by fischer apart from his 60 memorable games???
May-20-09  Brown: <RookFile> I agree with whoever thinks Bronstein got the kind of game he wanted; a strange, mirror image of the King's Indian.
Sep-16-09  UnicornChessman: Hm, in response to the person who objected to wheelchair bandit's comment of "well, it is blitz", I guess I honestly have to agree with wheelchair bandit.

Normally I wouldn't, but in the notes it specifies that it is 5 minute blitz, and with the game having 47 moves, the constant overlooking of moves is somewhat justified. I've always been terrible at 5 minute blitz, while at least maintaning a degree of decency at 10 minute blitz.

Sep-08-11  notmtwain: There's really no reason to say those are Fischer's annotations since no source is given. In fact, I have looked through the 18 games posted here and I see no source listed anywhere. Does anyone have any info on the source of these annotations?
Sep-08-11  Zugzwangovich: <notmtwain: There's really no reason to say those are Fischer's annotations since no source is given. In fact, I have looked through the 18 games posted here and I see no source listed anywhere. Does anyone have any info on the source of these annotations?> The annotations are from Chess Meets of the Century by Bobby Fischer and Dimitrie Bjelica. In the Foreward to the book Bjelica writes, "As Bobby Fischer was the winner with a fantastic result we included all of his games. He annotated 12 of them for this book and we did not change one sentence of his comments."
Sep-08-11
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  TheFocus: The Morphy and Steinitz games were from a TV series(?) in which he demonstrated some games. He did these with Dimitri Bjelica. IIRC.

I don't know the source of the Petrosian - Pachman, Bled game.

The Unzicker, Bolbochan and Byrne games were from <My 60 Memorable Games>.

The blitz games were from <Chess Meets of the Century>, a book he co-wrote with Bjelica.

Nov-14-11  Everett: <delterp> Sure you are not on this site any longer, but 27.Qe2 is impossible.

This is basically a KID vs a King's Pawn opening. If Lasker had read Fischer's notes to this game, I imagine he would have given it a whirl.

Black's moves 16-23 are what makes Bronstein's games so worthy of study. He creates unusual positions at the board, often out of nothing.

Dec-03-12  Conrad93: Fischer regarded blitz as simply a form of relaxation from serious games.

He never took blitz seriously.

Dec-03-12  Conrad93: I guess the word I'm looking for is "casual."
Dec-31-12  Everett: Who knows if these are really Fischer's notes. It is amusing that after the criticism of Black's 34th move, White misses Black's improvement on the very next move with <35..Qc2+>, winning in all lines.

Really enjoy Ivanchuk's handling of this same opening vs Kasparov, linked above. Petrosian and Vaganian also assayed the 5..Bf8 line.

Dec-31-12
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  Jim Bartle: I'd think either Fischer or an editor could spell "disappear" and "recommend.
Dec-31-12  Everett: <Jim Bartle> yeah, who knows. Could merely be a copying error. Any idea where these notes are from?
Dec-31-12
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  Phony Benoni: <Everett> As stated earlier by <Zugzwangovich>:

"The annotations are from Chess Meets of the Century by Bobby Fischer and Dimitrie Bjelica. In the Foreward to the book Bjelica writes, 'As Bobby Fischer was the winner with a fantastic result we included all of his games. He annotated 12 of them for this book and we did not change one sentence of his comments.'"

It's also possible that the person who input the notes into the game made the misspellings.

Jan-02-13  Everett: <It's also possible that the person who input the notes into the game made the misspellings.>

Exactly, always possible.

Also, I think Fischer's annotations were likely done almost as quickly as the games themselves, not much depth.

I also think that Fischer was not a tremendous fan of the French pawn structure from the Black side. Funny, he doesn't mention that this is basically a KID-type position in the beginning. I have a sense that he didn't know all that was going on in this game. Or at least he doesn't let on in his notes.

What is remarkable about Bronstein's play is how he completely explodes the center in just a few moves, really a startling transformation. I think this is why Bonstein was at his most deadly in KID and French structures: his skill in open games allowed him to recognize when and how to blow up the pawns and release his pieces.

Jun-28-13  leka: David Bronstein was rated 2702 in 1970.David Bronstein was the world number one in 1951 rating 2792.
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