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|Nov-17-04|| ||DanielBryant: What the heck is Chigorin doing playing Damiano's Defense? |
|Nov-17-04|| ||Whitehat1963: A wild game that features the opening of the day. |
|May-04-05|| ||schnarre: <DanielBryant> Good question! I doesn't seem to fit his style.|
|Nov-02-05|| ||knightsillver: the opening
is the easiest way to win
|Jan-13-06|| ||schnarre: <knightsillver> Missing some text?!|
|Mar-05-06|| ||patzer2: The move 22...Rxh1+! is a decoy tactic Chigorin failed to play for a mate-in-six, as pointed out by <Honza Cervenka>.|
The combination with 22...Rxh1!+ is listed as the solution to number 1170 in Chess Informant's 1980 "Encyclopedia of Chess Middlegames," and is categoriezed there as a decoy (spelled "dicoying" in this multi-language reference book).
Black's first two moves are decoys in the combination <22...Rxh1+! 23. Nxh1 Bh2+! 24. Kxh2 Rh8+ 25. Kg3 Nf5+ 26. Kg4 Rh4#>.
P.S. Black also missed this same mate by not playing 23...Rxh1+!
|Feb-23-07|| ||beenthere240: Or is 9...Qg6 a deep deep sac? Black sure gets a lot of play for his queen vs B + N. Psychologically whte has to feel like he has a win. Chigorin certainly had all the fun in the game!|
|Jul-05-09|| ||sileps: I found the forced mating combination after around 10 minutes with my board. It's an absolutely priceless combination, it's a pity it wasn't played. This is one of the best examples of how a puzzle-state of mind can outplay the best. I'm 100% positive that chigorin is a much better player than I am, but because he was unaware that there existed a mating combination he didn't bother to look for an alternative to his actual move!|
|Jul-05-09|| ||sfm: 14.Ne4 looks like a mistake. 14.Bf4 seems to be the way.|
|Aug-28-09|| ||melianis: Bet Chigorin didn't like this game.|
|Aug-28-09|| ||zanza: What a odd game!|
|Aug-28-09|| ||melianis: The question might be: "what sort of vodka was served?"|
|Aug-28-09|| ||whiteshark: Here is the complete game:
[Event "St Petersburg m"]
[White "Schiffers, Emanuel Stepanovich"]
[Black "Chigorin, Mikhail"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6 3. Nxe5 Qe7 4. Nf3 d5 5. d3 dxe4 6. dxe4 Qxe4+ 7. Be2 Nc6 8. O-O Bd7 9. Nc3 Qg6 10. Ne5 Nxe5 11. Bh5 O-O-O 12. Bxg6 hxg6 13. Qe2 Bd6 14. Ne4 Nf3+ 15. gxf3 Bxh2+ 16. Kg2 Bh3+ 17. Kh1 Be5 18. Kg1 Bh2+ 19. Kh1 Be5 20. Qe1
Bg4+ 21. Kg1 Bxf3 22. Ng3 Ne7 23. Qe3 Bc6 24. Qxa7 b6 25. Be3 Nf5 26. f4 Nxg3
27. fxe5 Rh1+ 28. Kf2 Rh2+ 29. Kxg3 Rdh8 30. Qa6+ Kb8 31. Bxb6 Rg2+ 32. Kf4
Rh4+ 33. Ke3 Rh3+ 34. Kf4 Rh4+ 1/2-1/2
So from <13...Bb5> onwards the game is wrong.
|Aug-28-09|| ||whiteshark: ... and it's the game where Chigorin! twice missed to mate.|
|Aug-28-09|| ||TheTamale: Is this game for real?|
|Sep-28-09|| ||OBIT: It would have been too cool if that's how it really went, but this is the actual game:|
Schiffers vs Chigorin, 1897
|Mar-05-10|| ||estebansponton: yeahhhh..... what kind of vodka....?|
|Jan-04-11|| ||alexmagnus: It's funny: all black wins with the Damiano in the database are in the 3.Nxe5 line, which many books call the main line.... After all, playing moves like 3.d4 or 3.Bc4 is safer :D|
|Sep-11-11|| ||Tigranny: What a silly idea to accept a draw.|
|Sep-11-11|| ||Petrosianic: Yeah, but think what a good idea it was to offer one.|
|Oct-26-11|| ||Llawdogg: Wow! What might have been!|
|May-04-12|| ||Infohunter: <whiteshark: ... and it's the game where Chigorin! twice missed to mate.>|
To wit: After 24. Qxa7 Black had a forced mate in six with 24...Rh1+ 25. Nxh1 Bh2+ 26. Kxh2 Rh8+ 27. Bh6 Rxh6+ 28. Kg3 Nf5+ 29. Kf4 (or 29. Kg4) Rh4#. In response to the text move 24...b6 White played 25. Be3 and allowed the very same mate--which Black missed again!
|May-05-12|| ||GrahamClayton: A truly bizarre game! Chigorin loses his Queen after 10 moves, misses 2 forced checkmates, and then Schiffers agrees to a draw in a winning position, eg 35. e3 h3+ 36. d4 d2+ 37. d3 fxe5+ 38. xe5 dxd3 39. xc7+ xc7 40. cxd3|
click for larger view
|Mar-01-13|| ||Garech: Insanity!
|Mar-01-13|| ||JimNorCal: Terrific entertainment starting at 10. Ne5!|
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