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Mikhail Chigorin vs David Przepiorka
15th DSB Kongress (Nuremberg) (1906), Nuremberg GER, rd 16, Aug-10
Center Game: Paulsen Attack Variation (C22)  ·  1-0
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Mar-25-11  scormus: <newzild: Missed it completely - didn't even see the Bh6 idea> you wont be worrying about that if NZ beats SA. Go Kiwis!
Mar-25-11
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  Marmot PFL: Not too difficult to find 19 Bh6 threatening mate and opening the d file for the rook (although 19 Nxd5 could be played first). After 19...Nxh6 20 Nxd5 Nxd5 21 Rxd5 is winning and i quit there as I could not find any other defense for black.
Mar-25-11
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  Jimfromprovidence: I got the text 19 Bh6 Nxh6 20 Nxd5 as well.


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I liked the threat of double check after 21 Nxf6++. This makes black spend a tempo to move his king out of danger.

Now after 20...Kh8, 21 Nxf6 threatens Qh7# and exposes and loses black's queen.


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<gofer>. Great work on the tricky 19 Bh6 Bf8 continuation.

Mar-25-11  stst: A forced (but quite long) sequence:
19.Bh6 N7xh6
20.Nxd5 Nfxd5
21.Pf6 Bxf6
22.Rxd5 Qc8
23.Rd8dis+ Kh8
24.Qxe8+ Kh7
25.Qg8/h8+ Kg6
26.Be4#
Mar-25-11  Jason Frost: Both 19. Nxd5 and 19. Bh6 win.

<19. Nxd5 Nxd5 20. Bh6 Nxh6 21. Rxd5> and white is up a queen for a knight and a bishop, with a better position, which is an easy win.

<19. Bh6> Transposes into same line

However

<19. Nxd5 Nxd5 20. Bxd5?? Qxd5 21. Bh6 Qxd1+ 22. Rxd1 Nxh6> And white has a queen for a rook and 2 pieces, which should be close to equal.

Mar-25-11  HolyAvatar: <19. Nxd5 Bd6

Black can hold the position with material equality.>

Actually after 20.Bg5, black's position totally crumbles and a mate is soon to follow.

Mar-25-11  sevenseaman: < scormus: <newzild: Missed it completely - didn't even see the Bh6 idea> you wont be worrying about that if NZ beats SA. Go Kiwis!>

What a thrilling win for NZ. They had become proven whipping boys before the Cup. Now they have beaten both group toppers, with SA sent home.

Congrats. There will be puzzles galore but not this WC enigma of joy.

Mar-25-11
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  thegoodanarchist: Well, darn, I ruined the puzzle by seeing the move out of the corner of my eye. I guess I should try to solve on the home page but I like to play over the moves leading up to the puzzle prior to thinking about it...
Mar-25-11  Quentinc: I guess I'm one of the few who found this almost overwhelmingly complex. I had 19. Bh6 Bf8 (Nxh6 is far too obliging) 20 Nxd5, and then I wasn't sure what would happen if Black was, once again, not so obliging as to capture on d5.

It's hard to find a good move for Black, but how about 20...b5 21. Bb3 c5?

Maybe I'm missing better for White.

Mar-25-11  wals: I went for the Nxd5 line to the best of my ability.

Analysis by Rybka 4 x64:d 17 : 13 min :

1. (3.36): 19.Nxd5 Nxd5 20.Ba5[] Qd6 21.Bxd5 Qf6[] 22.Bxc7 Bc5 23.Qxh5 Bd4 24.c3[] Re7 25.Ba5[] Rc8 26.Qf3 b6 27.Bb4[] Bc5 28.Be6 Qh6+ 29.Kb1 Rb8 30.Qe4 Bxb4 31.Qxb4 Rxe6 32.fxe6 Qg6+ 33.Ka1 Qxe6 34.Rhe1

2. (2.69): 19.Bh6 Nxh6[] 20.Nxd5[] Kf8 21.Nxf6[] Bxf6 22.Rxd8[] Rexd8 23.Qxh5 b5 24.Be6 Rd4 25.Qe2 Rad8 26.g3 R8d6 27.a3 Rg4 28.Qf2 Rgd4 29.Re1 c6 30.Qe3 Ng4 31.Qf3 b4

Mar-25-11
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  morfishine: After reading through all the variations and sub-lines, it looks like we all got it right. Apparently, white wins no matter what he plays!
Mar-25-11  scormus: <thegoodanarchist ... ruined> Sometimes that happens to me and it ruins my day :( I wish CG would set it up so you can choose to see the moves only up to the puzzle position

<sevenseaman:> Great win for NZ. Did SA press their self-destruct button? Maybe we'll do that tomorrow.

Mar-25-11  redorc19: I thought of 19. Rh3 ? which, as told by Fritz, probably can have black keep his advantage. I actually had the engine run through a line in which Black has 2 bishops and 1 rook for a queen and a pawn... technically Black would be winning in this line but it seems EXTREMELY active for white and since humans blunder, in a real game this line would probably be a draw if not a win for white. I'll see if I can post it...
Mar-25-11
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  morfishine: <thegoodanarchist> & <scormus> Have you thought about signing-up for the inner-team game? It should be fun, if nothing else. :) Morf
Mar-25-11
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  DarthStapler: Got it
Mar-25-11
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  Domdaniel: Has somebody done something to the page display? The usual problem is a string of characters too long to wrap ...?

Ah. <gofer>? Those decorative plus signs?

Not that I mind personally, or anything.

Mar-25-11
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  Jimfromprovidence: <Quentinc> <I had 19. Bh6 Bf8 (Nxh6 is far too obliging) 20 Nxd5, and then I wasn't sure what would happen if Black was, once again, not so obliging as to capture on d5. It's hard to find a good move for Black, but how about 20...b5 21. Bb3 c5?>

How about 22 Bg5!


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Now the f6 knight and the g pawn are pinned. White threatens 23 Nxf6+ with mate next move, so the knight has to be captured.

Capture by either the queen or knight dooms the queen and moving the bishop to e7 allows mate.

<gofer> had pointed out this move in a different variation of the 19 Bh6 Bf8 variation.

Mar-25-11
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  David2009: Chigorin vs Przepiorka, 1906 White 19?

White has sacrificed a piece to reach this position. If 19 Nxd5 Nxd5 20 Bxd5, then 20...Qxd5 wins RBB for Q after 21 Bh6 Qxd1+ 22 Rxd1 Nxh6 and looks fine for Black. Try instead 19 Nxd5 Nxd5 20 Bh6 Nxh6 21 Rxd5 which seems to win Q for R+N. There is still a lot of play in the position. Time to check:
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Other kibitzers have said this already, and it is rather late to explore the position with Crafty EGT. Bed time.

Mar-25-11
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  Penguincw: Well,didn't get it right.I was thinking about 19.g4 or 19.Rdg1.
Mar-25-11
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  TheBish: Chigorin vs Przepiorka, 1906

White to play (19.?) "Difficult", White is down a piece.

So, down a piece, White needs to win his piece back with interest, or win more than a piece (like win the queen or mate). One theme I noticed was playing Bd2-h6 at the right moment, threatening mate while uncovering the Rd1 against either d5 or the queen on d8. I figure the first move must be Nxd5.

19. Nxd5 Nxd5

There may be other moves for Black here, but I'll check back to this point later. Now if 20. Bxd5 Qxd5 21. Bh6 Qxd1+! 22. Rxd1 Nxh6 and Black has a rook and two pieces for the queen.

20. Bh6!

Now Black needs to decide whether he can take the bishop (mate is threatened), or if it's better to defend with 20...Bf6 or 20...Bf8.

A) 20...Nxh6 21. Rxd5

Now White is a piece down, but going to win the queen for a rook no matter where it goes, thanks to the discovered check (21...Qb8 22. Rd8+, or worse 21...Bd6 22. Rxd6+).

B) 20...Bf6 (or 20...Bf8) 21. Rxd5 Qe7 22. Rhd1 and the threat of 23. Rd7 looks killing (22...Rad8 23. Rxd8 Rxd8 24. Rxd8+ Qxd8 25. Qxf7+ Kh7 26. Qxh5#).

I think that's enough analysis (which I did from the diagram, in case anyone cares!). Time to compare and contrast.

Mar-25-11  newzild: <sevenseaman: < scormus: <newzild: Missed it completely - didn't even see the Bh6 idea> you wont be worrying about that if NZ beats SA. Go Kiwis!>

What a thrilling win for NZ. They had become proven whipping boys before the Cup. Now they have beaten both group toppers, with SA sent home.

Congrats. There will be puzzles galore but not this WC enigma of joy.>

It was with a great amount of pleasure and an equal amount of surprise that I watched our "whipping-boys" knock over the South Africans last night.

Mar-25-11  sevenseaman: <<scormus> <sevenseaman:> Great win for NZ. Did SA press their self-destruct button? Maybe we'll do that tomorrow.>

Well, SA do have a patent on that special button. Best team by far, not one KO win to date!

The English have a penchant for strewing their 'walking wounded' on way to the Trafalgar. Pyrrhic?

Przepiorka! What an enchanting name! If it were a girl's I'd be running after her, sorta.

Mar-25-11  Quentinc: < Jimfromprovidence: <Quentinc> How about 22 Bg5!>
Yes, that does look pretty decisive! I suppose White could even play 21. Bg5 and ignore the attack on the other bishop. Thanks for pointing this out.
Mar-25-11  WhiteRook48: I found 19 Bh6 pretty quickly, but I failed the next move by playing 20 Rxd5... I think white can still win, but it will be so much harder...
Mar-25-11  stst: <wals>
upon 19.Bh6 NxB, the line given by Rybka gives quite a tough resistance for Bk.
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