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Anatoly Karpov vs Viktor Korchnoi
"History Written by the Viktor" (game of the day Sep-13-2011)
Dortmund Sparkassen (1994), Dortmund GER, rd 7, Jul-22
Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov-Petrosian Variation. Main Line (E12)  ·  0-1

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Sep-08-14  kevin86: White should have underpromoted at move 61- A draw or win would have resulted.
Sep-08-14  Everett: <memberkevin86: White should have underpromoted at move 61- A draw or win would have resulted.>

Remarkably true! A knight, of course, yet the follow-up is not so easy... <61.f8=N+! Kh6 62.gxf4!> as <62.Nxe6> results in mate in 3!

Sep-09-14  4tmac: There is no win - plan: 61=♘ with check to save time 62 take Bishop to stop mate 63 barge in with Queen for perp <61. f8=N+! Kh6 62. gxf4! Qc8 63. Qb8! Qxb8>


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& now White has a perp draw!!

Jul-23-15  SpiritedReposte: Wowzers. This is an anomaly.
Mar-29-16  QueensideCastler: With many pieces remaning on the board, two queens may suffer from Larry Kaufman's principle of major piece redundancy.
Feb-28-17  Saniyat24: What a beautiful and complex game...!!
Jul-24-17  Toribio3: The game is very complicated. Viktor, the victor always triumphed in the end!
Dec-26-17  hudman653: The more i look at Karpov Vs. Korchnoi games the more convinced i am that Fischer would have beat Karpov handily in 1975...No question in my mind..
Dec-26-17  Petrosianic: <hudman653: The more i look at Karpov Vs. Korchnoi games the more convinced i am that Fischer would have beat Karpov handily in 1975...No question in my mind..>

Unfortunately, faith doesn't become fact simply by believing it more unquestioningly. Your bio says you're a 1300 player and that Fischer is your favorite player. So you believe that your favorite player would win, not because of facts but because of desire. Doesn't that explain your faith away to nothingness? I'm sure Karpov's mother has equal faith that he would have won. And that's equally valueless.

Dec-27-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: <Petrosianic: <hudman653: The more i look at Karpov Vs. Korchnoi games the more convinced i am that Fischer would have beat Karpov handily in 1975...No question in my mind..> Unfortunately, faith doesn't become fact simply by believing it more unquestioningly. Your bio says you're a 1300 player and that Fischer is your favorite player. So you believe that your favorite player would win, not because of facts but because of desire...>

Rudyard Kipling made a mention of this mentality:

<...What should they know of England who only England know?—
The poor little street-bred people that vapour and fume and brag,
They are lifting their heads in the stillness to yelp at the English Flag!>

That phrase, "What do they know of England who only England know?" can be applied to anything. "What do they know of Fischer who only Fischer know?

If the only chess player you really know is Bobby Fischer then this mad, jingoistic mindset takes over.
Fischer could beat anyone. His losses were all because of illness or dirty tricks, he would have beaten Karpov handily, no question!
When you open your mind to other players, Fischer becomes a player in the evolutionary scale of chess history. Definitely a great player, but not an all-knowing god.

Nov-09-19  The Boomerang: What a game!!! Never seen it before. The depth of positional play is astounding.
Nov-09-19  cunctatorg: <The Boomerang>: As far as I know, Vassily Ivanchuk respectfully agrees -regarding <the depth of positional play> and more- with you!!
Nov-09-19  W Westerlund: The talk about the Karpov mafia is sheer nonsense. Read Winter's review of Kasparov's Child of Change. Kasparov never took anything tack, although the lies are blatant. I am happy that the likes of Fischer and Kasparov are gone. Great chess players absolutely, but chess became better without their circus.
Nov-09-19  cunctatorg: @ <W Westerlund> and all.

Alas, the "Royal Game" became way less alive, interesting and fascinating without the likes of ... Bobby Fischer and Garry Kasparov... and I'm pretty sure that both Anatoly Karpov and Victor Korchnoi would agree with my previous statement.

For the sake of an analogy, compare with the turmoil between and around JRC and AAA...

For the sake of a much stronger (and enlightening) analogy, think about the History of the Ancient Mediterranean without Alexander the Great and think if the Classical World would become <better without the circus> of such <weird personalities> as that Alexander the Great guy, that Hannibal Barca and even Julius Caesar...

Long live Cassius and Brutus or down with Cassius and Brutus, according to Dante Alighieri?!?

Mar-16-20  ZackyMuhammad: What a fantastic game by Korchnoi!
Mar-17-20  SChesshevsky: <What a fantastic game by Korchnoi!>

You said it! When this guy was on, it was something. Wish there was video of this ending. Many times when Korchnoi smelled blood he moved the pieces like a shark going for the kill. There are some blitz games on YouTube when Korchnoi was older versus 2100s or so that show him in his element.

Related to his comments on two queens, small board: he doesn't mention that seems like king safety usually has a lot to do with his finding. If you don't have easy threats against opponents king and if your king is vulnerable, the two queens do seem to lose a lot of value.

Probably because unless they are coordinated right off, you never get the tempo to position them right or the time to open the position for mobility. Though if my king was safe, I'll take two queens any day. But if my king's really weak and playing Korchnoi, even three queens would probably be unpleasant.

May-14-20
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  kingscrusher: Closing gambit free if Amazon prime member:

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Feautures about Korchnoi and Karpov

May-15-20
Premium Chessgames Member
  kingscrusher: Remarkable game - I did a video analysis here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwj...

Cheers, K

Jan-07-21  ZoneChess: According to Stockfish, the moment Karpov promotes to a queen is his fatal mistake. It is drawish, then on the promotion the chances are -11.2 (d=32), since black can now obtain lines to the white king with a check.
Jan-06-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  GrahamClayton: What a titanic struggle!
Jan-06-24  Petrosianic: <GrahamClayton: What a titanic struggle!>

I don't know what you're talking about. There are no icebergs here.

Jan-06-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  fredthebear: Albert A. Gore was Vice President from 1993 to 2001 under William J. Clinton. He sounded the alarm to the world! Icebergs were becoming extinct back in '94. https://education.nationalgeographi...

Of course, the players probably flew in a plane or rode the rail to Dortmund, Germany then. Neither player was known to take risks; they preferred a positional style of play.

Jan-06-24  Petrosianic: <fredthebear: Albert A. Gore was Vice President from 1993 to 2001 under William J. Clinton. He sounded the alarm to the world! Icebergs were becoming extinct back in '94.>

Yeah, and Gore himself has a carbon footprint bigger than Sasquatch. If individuals could be considered responsible for it, he'd be one of those individuals.

Jan-06-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <....Neither player was known to take risks; they preferred a positional style of play.>

Has this, ah, poster ever actually studied Korchnoi's games? This statement is fatuous and flies in the face of the facts.

Jan-14-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  fredthebear: Looks like FTB's take-no prisoners-response was deleted as usual. Here's what my stalker has to say about removals: - M Mascheroni vs M Salami, 2001 (kibitz #7)

CGs has guidelines? Are there guidelines for freddie bears but none for zoobob bears or cyberbullies? What guidelines are you following, puffy?

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