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|Sep-01-04|| ||myratingstinks: I dont know about the rest, but every time I see two bishops lined up like that & the queen on the pinned kingside, I think sac the bishops immediately. |
|Sep-01-04|| ||AdrianP: I'm surprised Dreev actually played 24...Qxf4 rather than resigning on move 24.|
I also looked at 19. Bf6, first, and came up with exactly the same line as <arenafootball9> 19. Bf6 gxf6 20. Qg4+ (stronger than <Cyph>'s 20. exf6, in my view) Kh8 21. exf6 Rg8 22. Qh3 Rg6 23. Bxg6 fxg6 24. Rxe6 which, I think, is all pretty forced and ends with a clear advantage to White. I couldn't see the finish after 19. Bxh7!. 19. Qh5 also looks good enough.
|Sep-01-04|| ||kevin86: White did a great job at demolishing black's king's protection. After that,all it took was a strong woman and a few small soldiers to hold her up. |
|Sep-01-04|| ||Nickisimo: So i'm guessing this is xh7+ week? |
|Sep-01-04|| ||sanferrera: 22. exf6 also wins. Nothing to do for black... |
|Sep-01-04|| ||Knight13: Good move Bxh7!
<Nickisimo> I am guessing it's a Bxh7 week too.
|Sep-01-04|| ||simsan: <Knight13> and <Nickisimo>: It would have to be Bishop strikes 7th rank on kingside week. The answer to yesterday's puzzle was Bxf7. |
Since there is no Q-pin today, (as there was in the monday and tuesday puzzles)I guess that is not part of the theme.
|Sep-01-04|| ||Titicamara: What if :
19. Bc2xh7+ Kg8xh7
20. Qe2-h5+ Kh7-g8
21. Bg5-f6 Qc7xe5!!
22. Bf6xe5 f7-f6
23. Be5-d4 Nc4xb2
24. Re1-e3 Nb2-c4
25. Re3-g3 e6-e5
26. Bd4-c5 Rf8-f7
27. Rg3-h3 Rf7-c7
28. Qh5-g6 Re8-c8
29. Ra1-d1 Bc6-e8
30. Qg6-h7+ Kg8-f7
31. Rh3-g3 Kf7-e6
32. Rg3xg7 Rc7xg7
33. Qh7xg7 Rc8xc5
34. Qg7-g8+ Be8-f7
35. Qg8-g4+ Ke6-e7
36. Rd1-d3 a6-a5
Black seem to have escaped mate and have a strong pawn centre. Do you think it will work? What am I missing here?
|Sep-01-04|| ||artemis: <adrianp> I believe that he was allowing white to demonstrate the soundness of his attack, a common courtesy that is lacking in several players these days. Without this continuation, the brilliance of white's moves does not come through.|
To all who first considered Bf6. That move is definetly worth consideration. One reason that a lot of people saw Bxh7 first is that it allows the queen to come near the king without loss of time. I believe it was Ruben Fine who said that the closer the queen is to the opponent's king, the more likely a checkmate is present.
|Sep-01-04|| ||Kefka: Why not just 22. exf6 ? |
|Sep-01-04|| ||Kefka: n/m queen comes to the defense |
|Sep-02-04|| ||patzer2: <chessteacher> <notsodeepthought> If 19. Qh5, then Black can make a game of it after 19...f5! 20. exf6 gxf6 21. Bc1 (21. Bh6 Nxb2 22. Bxf8 Nxd3 ) 21...e5 22. b3 e4 . White may be able to squeeze a win with this small advantage, but it is clearly inferior to the forced win 19. Bxh7+! offers. |
The lesson I take from this game is on the essential role quiet moves like 24. f4! (making the g5 square accessible to the White Queen for a decisive deflection check) play in carrying out a winning attack:
24. f4! Rg8 (24...Rh8 25. Qg5+ Kh7 26. Qg7#) 25. Qh4+ Kg6 27. Qg5+! Kh7 26. Qh5#.
|Sep-02-04|| ||patzer2: <titcamara> After 21...Qxe5 22. Bxe5 f6 23. Bd4 Nxb2 24. Re3 Nc4, White now plays <25. Rh3!> e5 26. Bc5! (Black cannot play 26...Rf7 due to 27. Qh8#) and with a Queen and the exchange up has a decisive winning advantage. |
|Sep-02-04|| ||ChessTeacher: Patzer2,
A better line for White after 21. Bh6, Nxb2 is 22. Qg4+ and if 22...Kf7; 23. Qg7# or 22...Kh8; 23. Bxf8, Rxf8 is leading.
My real point is Black's lack of threats and poor defensive position - well really sucks.
I too would just send the bishop in, but if you take the extra time for 19. Qh5 - you should still win. Black's position is that bad!
|Sep-02-04|| ||ChessTeacher: To add to my previous post, White could continue 24. Bxh7, Qxh7 or Kxh7; 25. Re3 with a killing shot of 26. Rh3 coming. |
|Sep-02-04|| ||patzer2: ChessTeacher, after 19...f5 20. exf6 gxf6 21. Bh6 Nxb2 22. Qg4+ 22...Kh8 23. Bxh8, the move 23...Nxd3! gives Black counter-chances and near equality.|
Play might continue 24. Re3 Ne5 25. Qb4 a5 26. Qc5 Nd7 27. Bd6 Nxc5 28. Bxc7 Nb7 (or 28...a4 ), with chances for both sides.
|Sep-09-04|| ||Cyphelium: <AdrianP> Actually, 20. exf6 wasn't my suggestion, but a part of a variation I tried to refute. =) Anyway, your variation looks promising, but isn't black kind of alright after (19. Bf6 gxf6 20. Qg4+ Kh8 21. exf6 Rg8 22. Qh3 Rg6 23. Bxg6 fxg6 24. Rxe6) 24.- Nd6? I haven't really checked this, but 25. Rae1 Ne4 looks ok, largely thanks to checks on a7. The same might go for 25. Rxe8 Bxe8 26. Re1 Ne4. |
|Sep-09-04|| ||clocked: <Cyphelium> 24...Nd6? 25.Qh6 with a threat of the deflection Rxd6 or Re7 |
|Sep-09-04|| ||clocked: <patzer2> and <ChessTeacher> after 21.Bh6 Nxb2 22.Bc2 Rf7 23.Rxe6 Rxe6 24.Qg4+ Kh8 25.Qxe6 Qd7 26.Re1 Nc4 27.Bf5 |
|Sep-09-04|| ||Cyphelium: <clocked> Easy one, huh? I had assumed that black would be winning after 25. Qh6 Nf5 26. Rxc6 Qd7, which is rather silly in view of 26. Rxe8+. |
|Sep-11-04|| ||patzer2: <clocked> Thanks for the analysis. Looks like <chess teacher>'s recommendation of 19. Qh5! does indeed win afterall, at least with your improvements. |
For the sake of those just following this discussion, the full line is 19. Qh5! f5 20. exf6 gxf6 21. Bh6 Nxb2 21.Bh6 Nxb2 22.Bc2! Rf7 23.Rxe6! Rxe6 24.Qg4+ Kh8 25.Qxe6 Qd7 26.Re1 Nc4 27.Bf5 . Fritz 8 rates White's position as a winning + 2.28 pawn advantage @ 16 depth & 1405kN/s.
|Jan-25-05|| ||aw1988: f4!! is a brilliant move! |
|Jan-25-05|| ||Saruman: Afterwards its easy to percieve Arnason's thinking; "Whatever I'll do I'll crush him with pawns". :-) |
|Nov-14-08|| ||The Bycote: Wow. This may be the most clever double-bishop sac I've ever seen! 24.f4!! is not an easy move to see ahead of time, especially since the "canned" way to crown these attacks is with a rook lift. Brilliant, creative play by Arnason!|
|Oct-20-12|| ||Chessdreamer: According to Informant 49 this game actually ended with <24.f4 1-0>.|
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