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| Sep-01-04 | | myratingstinks: I dont know about the rest, but every time I see two bishops lined up like that & the queen on the pinned kingside, I think sac the bishops immediately. |
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| Sep-01-04 | | AdrianP: I'm surprised Dreev actually played 24...Qxf4 rather than resigning on move 24. I also looked at 19. Bf6, first, and came up with exactly the same line as <arenafootball9> 19. Bf6 gxf6 20. Qg4+ (stronger than <Cyph>'s 20. exf6, in my view) Kh8 21. exf6 Rg8 22. Qh3 Rg6 23. Bxg6 fxg6 24. Rxe6 which, I think, is all pretty forced and ends with a clear advantage to White. I couldn't see the finish after 19. Bxh7!. 19. Qh5 also looks good enough. |
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Sep-01-04
 | | kevin86: White did a great job at demolishing black's king's protection. After that,all it took was a strong woman and a few small soldiers to hold her up. |
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| Sep-01-04 | | Nickisimo: So i'm guessing this is  xh7+ week? |
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| Sep-01-04 | | sanferrera: 22. exf6 also wins. Nothing to do for black... |
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| Sep-01-04 | | Knight13: Good move Bxh7!
<Nickisimo> I am guessing it's a Bxh7 week too. |
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| Sep-01-04 | | simsan: <Knight13> and <Nickisimo>: It would have to be Bishop strikes 7th rank on kingside week. The answer to yesterday's puzzle was Bxf7. Since there is no Q-pin today, (as there was in the monday and tuesday puzzles)I guess that is not part of the theme. |
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| Sep-01-04 | | Titicamara: What if :
19. Bc2xh7+ Kg8xh7
20. Qe2-h5+ Kh7-g8
21. Bg5-f6 Qc7xe5!!
22. Bf6xe5 f7-f6
23. Be5-d4 Nc4xb2
24. Re1-e3 Nb2-c4
25. Re3-g3 e6-e5
26. Bd4-c5 Rf8-f7
27. Rg3-h3 Rf7-c7
28. Qh5-g6 Re8-c8
29. Ra1-d1 Bc6-e8
30. Qg6-h7+ Kg8-f7
31. Rh3-g3 Kf7-e6
32. Rg3xg7 Rc7xg7
33. Qh7xg7 Rc8xc5
34. Qg7-g8+ Be8-f7
35. Qg8-g4+ Ke6-e7
36. Rd1-d3 a6-a5
Black seem to have escaped mate and have a strong pawn centre. Do you think it will work? What am I missing here? |
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| Sep-01-04 | | artemis: <adrianp> I believe that he was allowing white to demonstrate the soundness of his attack, a common courtesy that is lacking in several players these days. Without this continuation, the brilliance of white's moves does not come through. To all who first considered Bf6. That move is definetly worth consideration. One reason that a lot of people saw Bxh7 first is that it allows the queen to come near the king without loss of time. I believe it was Ruben Fine who said that the closer the queen is to the opponent's king, the more likely a checkmate is present. |
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| Sep-01-04 | | Kefka: Why not just 22. exf6 ? |
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| Sep-01-04 | | Kefka: n/m queen comes to the defense |
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Sep-02-04
 | | patzer2: <chessteacher> <notsodeepthought> If 19. Qh5, then Black can make a game of it after 19...f5! 20. exf6 gxf6 21. Bc1 (21. Bh6 Nxb2 22. Bxf8 Nxd3  ) 21...e5 22. b3 e4  . White may be able to squeeze a win with this small advantage, but it is clearly inferior to the forced win 19. Bxh7+!  offers. The lesson I take from this game is on the essential role quiet moves like 24. f4! (making the g5 square accessible to the White Queen for a decisive deflection check) play in carrying out a winning attack: 24. f4! Rg8 (24...Rh8 25. Qg5+ Kh7 26. Qg7#) 25. Qh4+ Kg6 27. Qg5+! Kh7 26. Qh5#. |
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Sep-02-04
| | patzer2: <titcamara> After 21...Qxe5 22. Bxe5 f6 23. Bd4 Nxb2 24. Re3 Nc4, White now plays <25. Rh3!> e5 26. Bc5! (Black cannot play 26...Rf7 due to 27. Qh8#) and with a Queen and the exchange up has a decisive winning advantage. |
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| Sep-02-04 | | ChessTeacher: Patzer2,
A better line for White after 21. Bh6, Nxb2 is 22. Qg4+ and if 22...Kf7; 23. Qg7# or 22...Kh8; 23. Bxf8, Rxf8 is leading. My real point is Black's lack of threats and poor defensive position - well really sucks.
I too would just send the bishop in, but if you take the extra time for 19. Qh5 - you should still win. Black's position is that bad! |
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| Sep-02-04 | | ChessTeacher: To add to my previous post, White could continue 24. Bxh7, Qxh7 or Kxh7; 25. Re3 with a killing shot of 26. Rh3 coming. |
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Sep-02-04
| | patzer2: ChessTeacher, after 19...f5 20. exf6 gxf6 21. Bh6 Nxb2 22. Qg4+ 22...Kh8 23. Bxh8, the move 23...Nxd3! gives Black counter-chances and near equality. Play might continue 24. Re3 Ne5 25. Qb4 a5 26. Qc5 Nd7 27. Bd6 Nxc5 28. Bxc7 Nb7 (or 28...a4 ), with chances for both sides. |
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| Sep-09-04 | | Cyphelium: <AdrianP> Actually, 20. exf6 wasn't my suggestion, but a part of a variation I tried to refute. =) Anyway, your variation looks promising, but isn't black kind of alright after (19. Bf6 gxf6 20. Qg4+ Kh8 21. exf6 Rg8 22. Qh3 Rg6 23. Bxg6 fxg6 24. Rxe6) 24.- Nd6? I haven't really checked this, but 25. Rae1 Ne4 looks ok, largely thanks to checks on a7. The same might go for 25. Rxe8 Bxe8 26. Re1 Ne4. |
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| Sep-09-04 | | clocked: <Cyphelium> 24...Nd6? 25.Qh6 with a threat of the deflection Rxd6 or Re7 |
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| Sep-09-04 | | clocked: <patzer2> and <ChessTeacher> after 21.Bh6 Nxb2 22.Bc2 Rf7 23.Rxe6 Rxe6 24.Qg4+ Kh8 25.Qxe6 Qd7 26.Re1 Nc4 27.Bf5 |
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| Sep-09-04 | | Cyphelium: <clocked> Easy one, huh? I had assumed that black would be winning after 25. Qh6 Nf5 26. Rxc6 Qd7, which is rather silly in view of 26. Rxe8+. |
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Sep-11-04
| | patzer2: <clocked> Thanks for the analysis. Looks like <chess teacher>'s recommendation of 19. Qh5! does indeed win afterall, at least with your improvements. For the sake of those just following this discussion, the full line is 19. Qh5! f5 20. exf6 gxf6 21. Bh6 Nxb2 21.Bh6 Nxb2 22.Bc2! Rf7 23.Rxe6! Rxe6 24.Qg4+ Kh8 25.Qxe6 Qd7 26.Re1 Nc4 27.Bf5 . Fritz 8 rates White's position as a winning + 2.28 pawn advantage @ 16 depth & 1405kN/s. |
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| Jan-25-05 | | aw1988: f4!! is a brilliant move! |
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| Jan-25-05 | | Saruman: Afterwards its easy to percieve Arnason's thinking; "Whatever I'll do I'll crush him with pawns". :-) |
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| Nov-14-08 | | The Bycote: Wow. This may be the most clever double-bishop sac I've ever seen! 24.f4!! is not an easy move to see ahead of time, especially since the "canned" way to crown these attacks is with a rook lift. Brilliant, creative play by Arnason! |
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| Oct-20-12 | | Chessdreamer: According to Informant 49 this game actually ended with <24.f4 1-0>. |
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