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| Jan-14-07 | | Brown: Spielmann here plays the Geller Gambit by transposition, without an early a4, many years before its namesake came on the scene. In Geller's style, Spielmann would have done better by playing 11.Bh5 or 11.a4 |
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| Mar-03-07 | | DWINS: <Calli> and <capanegra>, Reuben Fine says that if 15.Rxf5!? c5! wins for Black. I ran this position through Junior 6 and Junior gave Black an advantage of 0.85 after 16.Ng7+ Kd8 17.Rf2 Kc8 18.a4 I'm not sure that this is a win as Fine claims but it does seem to indicate that Black is better. However, in over the board play, you are probably correct that Spielmann would have liked such a position. |
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| Apr-04-09 | | Brown: Unbelievably, there may be at least a draw and maybe a win <!!!> found for white after <20.Ng5+ Bxg5 21.Bxg5 Rae8 22.Rf1+ Kg7 23.Qh4 h5 24.Bf6+ Nxf6 25.Qxf6 Kh7 <..Kh6 26.Rf5!>> with perpetual. Stopping at this position, we see that black's king has only two defenders - two rooks - while white has a rook, bishop and queen in the attack. Black will need a move or two to bring the bishop and queen to the aid of the king or into some sort of counter-attack, namely with ..c5. So white could venture, after the above line with.. <26.Bxh4!> with four main defenses for black. A) 26..gxh5 27.Qf7+ Kh6 28.Rf6+ Kg5 29.Qg7+ Kh4 30.Qg3# B) 26..Rhg8 27.Bxg6 Rxg6 28.Qf7+ Kh6 <..Rg7 28.Qh5+ Kg8 29.Qxe8+ Kh7 30.Rf8> 29.Qxe8 c5 <..Rxg2+ 30.Kxg2 c5+ 31.Ka3 Bc8+ 32.Ka4> 30.Qh8+ Kg5 31.g3 C) 26..Reg8 27.Rf4 gxh6 <..g5 27.Re4> 28.Qf7+ Kh6 <..Rf7 29.Qxh5+ Kg8 30.Qe8+ Kh7 31.Rh5#> 29.Rf6+ Kg5 30.Rf5+ Kh4 31.Qe7+ Kg5 32.Qe4# D) 26..c5 with two breaks
D1) 27.Bxg6+ Kh6 28.Bxe8 Qxf6 29.Rxf6+ with a complex endgame.
D2) 27.Qf7+ Kh6 28.Rf6 Qxf6 29.Qxf6 Kxh5 30.h4 Kh6 31.Qf4+ Kg7 32.Qc7+ Kf6 33.Qxb7 with another complex endgame. Line D seems like best play, and should be no surprise, as it gets some other pieces involved. Some interesting play here, if Spielmann decided to forget the queen and go after the king instead. |
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| Apr-04-09 | | Brown: Hah! After all that work, I punch it into the computer, and it kicks out 21..Rhe8, easily winning for black. Another issue of the correct rook. So it looks like white either must try 15.Rxf5 or 11.Bh5. |
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| Jul-27-09 | | suenteus po 147: <I think they were drunk while conducting this brilliancy. They were drinking numerous kegs of XX.> This was game 7 of a ten game match between Spielmann and Eliskases played in Linz, Austria in 1932. Eliskases beat Spielmann by one point, with a final score of +3 =5 -2. |
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| Feb-15-13 | | Eduardo Bermudez: Bravo Eliskases !! who was born 100 years ago !! |
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| Feb-20-13 | | Eduardo Bermudez: http://cultura.elpais.com/cultura/2... |
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Feb-28-14
 | | LIFE Master AJ: More GOTD material.
Chernev, Fine, Kmoch, Tartakower, Soltis ... (and probably others) have all praised this game as one of the best ever. A few years ago, I remember analyzing this game with Fritz 10 or Fritz 11, But I could not find that work when I went looking for it. |
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Feb-28-14
| | LIFE Master AJ: White appeared to have a winning attack at one point, after he trapped the Black Q, yet it all came undone on him somehow. (Incredible tactics here, must be lots of puzzles in this game!!! CG staff, are you paying any attention here?) |
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Feb-27-15
 | | offramp: <capanegra: ...Was the error committed when he lost time trying to capture the queen with 15.♙a4 and 16.♙a5? Or was he just bluffing?> 15.a4 does seem a bit irrelevant. As <Calli> says, 15.Rxf5 looks better.
click for larger view
If 15...gxf5 then 16.Bh5#! |
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| Aug-15-15 | | ToTheDeath: Terrific attack and counterattack. Eliskases was underrated. |
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| Apr-06-16 | | john barleycorn: < offramp: ...
15.a4 does seem a bit irrelevant. As <Calli> says, 15.Rxf5 looks better. ...> According to Eliskases 15.Rxf5 leads to a lost position for white: 15.Rxf5 c5 16.Nxg7+ Kd8 17.dc Qc6 18.Rf7 Rf8
After 15.a4 the move c5 is a mistake:
15.a4 c5 16.Ng7+ Kd8 17.Ng5 Bxg5 18.Bxg5+ followed by 19.ab After 21.Qf3 Eliskases writes:
(my translation)
"Up to here Spielmann has calculated, as far as possible for humans but yet not far enough." |
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| Dec-27-18 | | Everett: D Sidorchuk vs S Sukharev, 2000 For comparison |
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Dec-05-19
 | | Phony Benoni: Spielmann's oppoonents seem to have had a knack for this sort of thing: Spielmann vs Stoltz, 1930 |
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| Apr-11-20 | | ismet: 22. Qxe2 ! would it to be too easy ? |
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| Apr-12-20 | | Muttley101: <Apr-11-20 ismet: 22. Qxe2 ! would it to be too easy ?> The point of 21 ... R:e2 is that the Bf6 is pinned by the white queen, so cannot play ... B:d4+ then B:c5, leaving black material up and the queen no longer attacked. 22. Q:e2 allows 22 ... B:d4+ and ... B:c5, so the question arises whether black's king is safe enough. If white could play 23. Be3 B:c5 24. B:c5 the king is exposed, but he can't. I've not looked further but I suspect black can defend. |
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| Jul-01-20 | | chessworm: Can't believe this is not made "Game of the Day" yet! |
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May-09-23
 | | Check It Out: Nice game |
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Nov-08-23
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Eliskases always had a reputation for tough, imaginative defense, but this game rather exceeded my expectations! One rarely sees a player go to such great lengths to *force* the opponent to capture his Queen by means of such a passive sacrifice. |
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| Nov-08-23 | | goodevans: <ismet: 22. Qxe2 ! would it to be too easy ?> <Muttley101: ... 22. Q:e2 allows 22 ... B:d4+ and ... B:c5, so the question arises whether black's king is safe enough.> An important question and worth a diagram:
click for larger viewBlack has a big material advantage but not only is his K exposed, his pieces appear badly placed to come to the rescue. His LSB and in particular his Q are temporarily out of the game and it looks like 24.Bg5 or 24.Bh6 followed by 25.Rf1+ might spell danger. It seems though that Black does indeed have sufficient defensive resources. Depending on how White plays it, possibly the safest plan is ...Bc8 followed by ...Bf5. He can also, at some point, take the e-file with ...Re8. With a pin on the f-file (after Rf1+ Bf5) White would have the option to win back a piece with a g4 advance but he'd still be down lots of material and now his K would be the more exposed. No doubt both players considered all this. Just one of many complexities in this incredible game. |
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Nov-09-23
 | | PeterLalic: This game is amazing. Both queens are mobbed: Black's by pawns and White's by pieces.
click for larger viewBlack to move. Last: 21.Qf3 |
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| Sep-15-24 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: There's no much tacticals moves in this position, so the king believes that many will find the moves: 21...Rxe2 where 22. Qxe2? Bxd4+ 23. Kh1 Bxc5 24. Bh6 Re8 25. Rf1+ Nf6 26. Qf3 Bd4 27. Bg5 c5 and B wins easily. Therefore, 22. Nxa6 Re1+ 23. Kf2 Rhe8 24. Nc5 Bc8 25. b4 c3... whether this is enough to win, it is the question. As Black is losing the ♕ has not much at his disposal. |
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| Sep-15-24 | | mel gibson: I missed that.
Stockfish 17 declines the Rook and the Queen -
21. .. Rxe2
(21. .. Rxe2 (1. ... Rxe2 2.Bg5 Rhe8 3.Nxa6 Bxa6 4.Bxf6
Re1+ 5.Rxe1 Rxe1+ 6.Kf2 Re3 7.Qg4 Nxf6 8.Qf4 Re7 9.Qb8 b4 10.Qxb4 Rb7
11.Qa3 Rb3 12.Qa2 g5 13.Ke1 Rd3 14.g4 Nxg4 ) +5.02/41 443) score for Black +5.02 depth 41.
If I force SF to accept to follow the game line by accepting the Queen: 22. Nxa6 Re1+
(22. .. Re1+ (1. ... Re1+ 2.Kf2 Rhe8 3.Nc7 R8e2+ 4.Qxe2 Rxe2+ 5.Kxe2 Nxc7 6.Bd2 Nd5 7.Rf1 Ke6 8.Bc1 Bxd4 9.Rf8 c5
10.Rb8 Bc6 11.g4 b4 12.a6 Kd6 13.g5 Kc7 14.Rf8 Kb6 ) +6.08/40 419) score for Black +6.08 depth 40. |
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Sep-15-24
 | | scormus: When I opened the CG main page first thing this morning and glanced at the position, I thought Bg5, which SF agrees would be correct ...... if it was W to play. It was a bit of a shock to find out it's B to play. This is a horribly noirish position. B is ahead by R+p but the Q is trapped and attacked. 21 ... Rxe2 was the only logical move I could find, but what does W do? 22 Qxe2, perhaps? Or grab the BQ while w has the chance? Or maybe my original choice if it had been W to play, 22 Bg5? SF agrees 21 ... Rxe2 is the only playable move, with clear advantage to B. Then rates 22 Bg5 as the best of a bad lot for W, then Nxh6 not as bad as Qxe2 when W won't get the BQ after 22 ... Bxd4+. |
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Sep-15-24
 | | chrisowen: Fig c v junk its q alt x mo its whip its z Rxe2 abb lab v afc pack its duff cc aao its ko its ajar its aof jiff affect pet bud its oxo its Rxe2 did; |
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