|Feb-06-06|| ||Whitehat1963: Wow! What a FANTASTIC SERIES OF PUZZLES this game provides after 23...Qc7!! See if you can force your way to the finish!|
|Feb-06-06|| ||dakgootje: Yes indeed a very nice puzzle, strange your the first who found it <Whitehat1963> as most of the 'very nice game's are discovered and have at least like 5 posts...|
|Feb-06-06|| ||Whitehat1963: How old was poor Euwe when he succembed to Geus? And is 30...Qf5 absolutely necessary? And why not 31. Qxh7 or 31. Bxf5? Is the rook sac the best move?|
|Feb-06-06|| ||WannaBe: Euwe, born May 20, 1901. So it would make him around 24/25 yrs old for this game.|
|Feb-08-06|| ||Whitehat1963: Am I silly to be so excited about this king hunt, or do many of you agree that it's an excellent game?|
|May-18-12|| ||twinlark: <Whitehat1963> Well, the king hunt was interesting, but it's hard to believe it's Euwe. Must have been a blindfold simul.|
|May-18-12|| ||thomastonk: <twinlark: Must have been a blindfold simul.> The game was more likely played in the S.S.S. cup, i.e. a 8-player event with double rounds played in 1924/25, which has been held by the Scheveningsche Schaaksocieteit. K.Geus was a player from Den Helder, the Netherlands.|
BTW, Euwe played very seldom blindfold.
|May-18-12|| ||thomastonk: I have now found a contemporary source, where the game has been published with all information. It has been played on December 12, 1925, and it belonged to the S.S.S. cup, but it was played in the rooms of the V.A.S. in Amsterdam.|
|May-18-12|| ||twinlark: <thomastonk>
Thanks for the info. So it was a tournament between "equals" and not a simul and any such like event? Hard to explain Euwe's poor play, especially as he was already Dutch champion and a rising force in world chess who'd already played and drew a match against Maroczy four years previously and was soon to play a training match against Alekhine.
|May-18-12|| ||thomastonk: <twinlark> Euwe often blundered games by overlooking a simple move, even in his best days. But here it seems a little bit different: with 21.. e5 and 22.. f6 Euwe tries to keep the queen active and protect a5. A stupid idea, because it weakens the white king's side squares so much; after 23.Qf5 he is already in trouble, probably lost, but after 23.. Qc7? his position collapses.|
BTW, White missed to crown his victory by 30. Qxh7+ and a simple mate in at most three more moves.
|May-18-12|| ||twinlark: <thomastonk> Thanks. A|
dmin could also use the additional information you supplied to fill in the blanks on the score sheet.
It seems that K. Geus is Klaas Geus. I'll let them know.
|May-19-12|| ||thomastonk: <twinlark> Yes, K. Geus ist Klaas Geus. I tried to find out how long he lived, but I could only find a simultaneous display he gave March 7th, 1946. |
In 1951, another strong chess player with this surname appears: this is William J Geus, also known as Wim Geus, the son of Klaas. He became the Netherlands first youth champion after WW II, and played a training tournament with
Alberic O'Kelly de Galway, Johan Teunis Barendregt and Hans Bouwmeester the same year.
|May-19-12|| ||twinlark: <thomastonk>
That's great information and I have incorporated some of it into their respective bios at Klaas Geus and William J Geus. I've also advised admin via CG Librarian chessforum of other information you provided and that I found out about since.
If you have or can find any further information about these two players, or for that matter, other famous Dutch players, I would be happy to add it into their bios.
You may be interested in reading the updated bio of Max Euwe.
|May-19-12|| ||achieve: <thomastonk> Is his first name really "William"?|
Very rare/unlikely I assume in 1950's Holland. Willem/Wim are usually derived from Wilhelmus, not the anglo-saxon William.
<twinlark> You added an extra 's' to "Geus", which is very generous of you.
|May-20-12|| ||thomastonk: <achieve> "William J." is that what I see in the databases, ie. Chessbase, New in Chess online, Chess Openings Encyclopedia, and of course, here.|
A sourse for "Wim" and for the relation of both players is a chess column of the Limburgsch Dagblad from 1974: "De eerste officiŽle KNSB-jeugdkampioen was na de oorlog Wim Geus, zoon van de beroemde Klaas Geus uit Den Helder."
|May-20-12|| ||achieve: <thomastonk> Ok - thanks! New In Chess with dutch editorship wouldn't err on a name like that, so William J. it is then. I will not question you again, as your research is very thorough, multiple sourced at that. ;)|
And Den Helder is a stones throw from BritanniŽ, so William makes sense.
Ik ben ook Nederlander btw - leuk een (naar ik aanneem) landgenoot te kunnen begroeten hier op CG. :)
|May-20-12|| ||thomastonk: <achieve> No, I am German, very much interested in Max Euwe recently, and though I live quite near the border (Aachen/Aken), I can only read Dutch a little bit.|
I am always interested to get closer contact to people who are also interested in chess history.
|May-20-12|| ||achieve: <thomas> Ach soo....:) Nice to hear! - and is it true that quite a lot of German youngsters, students, have started to take interest in learning Dutch? ... It was mentioned in a news item/story not too long ago, that there had been a growing interest especially near the border area.|
Of course when I was in school, from age 12 onward, we were taught German, as a rule, and my teacher then was so thorough and engaging that to this day I still am quite fluent in German. Actually I enjoy reading good German, a lot. Tipical for the Dutch is that we borrowed a lot of words from both the French and the Germans, being the trade nation that we were, and education in 4 languages (Ger, Fra, Engl, NL) was the norm back in the early 80s.
|May-20-12|| ||thomastonk: <achieve> I haven't heard of such growing interest in learning Dutch. In my school days, I had to learn also 4 languages, but two of them were ancient: Latin and Greek. French is now missing the most, because of 18th and 19th century chess literature now being available free at Google books and some libraries. But somehow it works ... ;-)|
|May-20-12|| ||Stonehenge: NicBase has this:
Name: Klaas Geus
Birthdate: ca 1885
Born in the Netherlands.
ch-NED 1929 8th 3/9.
And William J Geus has a game here, played in Oz.
|May-20-12|| ||achieve: <thomast> I had Latin and Greek as well for 4 years! - but by then I had to drop one or two languages, as I prepared to study Medicine: Greek and French were dropped, in favor of the "exact" courses, and Biology.|
<Stonehenge> Interesting, an Aussie immigrant.... The plot thickens.
|May-20-12|| ||thomastonk: <Stonehenge, achieve> Wim played in fact for the Australian team at the 1964 Olympiad in Tel Aviv! See here http://www.olimpbase.org/teams/aus_....|
|May-20-12|| ||achieve: Hence the William first name!
|May-20-12|| ||twinlark: William was also born in the Netherlands and then he and Klaas migrated to Australia sometime after 1952 and before 1960: http://www.newinchess.com/Geus__Wil.... After he played for Australia in its first participation in the Olympiad, he won the Doeberl Cup in Canberra in 1965 and 1966.|