Feb-25-03
 | | refutor: Euwe must've been in severe time trouble to play 33. ... Qe7? GMs make mistakes too people, but if this game was Botvinnik-Keres instead of Keres-Euwe the conspiracy people would be out in full force ;) |
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| Feb-25-03 | | Spitecheck: White was threatening e6 wasn't he? I'm not sure what Black should play here, I think he's got the worst of it. Qe7 is obviously a blunder, but it may not have changed the impending result of the game. |
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| Feb-25-03 | | Spitecheck: Well after asking the Comp it says that Black has to play Rb7 or Kh7 and after Rc8, e6 is threatened again. I think Euwe simply played Qe7 to avoid all the yucky analysis to contend with Rc8, he succeeded :). |
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Feb-25-03
 | | corbinamman: so does white have a won game? what is the line? I see the threat of e6 being met with a pawn sac as follows: 33...Kh7 34 Rc8 h4 35 e6 fxe6 36 Nxe6 d4 37 Nxd4 Qg7. |
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| Feb-26-03 | | Spitecheck: I don't remember the line now I'll have a look at it later, I remember in one of the lines the computer does sac the d pawn though so you are probably on the right track. I'm only using Crafty so maybe someone wants to turn on Fritz or sim for like 5 minutes. With your line however instead of Nxd4 did you look at Ng5+, that looks slightly dangerous for the black king? If Kh6 Rh8 Kg7 Rh7 etc and if Kg7 Qc5 or perhaps even Qc4 look potent. after Qc5 white is threatening Qf8 (#ing) or simply Nxe4. |
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| Feb-26-03 | | Spitecheck: This is the best line of play it came up with, oh and it rules out 33...Rb7 after some thought 34. Rc8+ it dumps the queen Qxc8. depth=15 +1.70 33. ... Kh7 34. Rc8 Qe7 (e6 not as dangerous with the queen on the black squares as Qf6 is just tenable) 35. Nc6 d4 36. Qxd4 Bxc6 37. Rxc6 a5 38. f5 Rc7 39. Rxc7 Qxc7 40. fxg6+ fxg6 41. Qf4 Qb7 42. Qf2 So it's feasible in the line that Euwe played Qe7 thinking ahead to the Kh7 Rc8 line. Doesn't really matter either way, it doesn't transpose though. |
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Feb-26-03
 | | corbinamman: thanks for taking the trouble. that helps me see more. |
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| Nov-19-10 | | soothsayer8: Qe7?? ouch...Kinda sad to see a former World Champion (who defeated Alekhine, no less) to completely fall apart like this in this tournament. |
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