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| Jan-25-08 |
| MaxxLange: <FSR> That Fischer game is in Hoffman's book, Chess Gladiator. I'll try to upload it to chessgames.com this weekend, if it is not already here. I think there is a photo of Hoffman playing Fine in the book, as well. |
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Jun-15-08
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| Some call me Tim: Lest we think Fischer ruled this mini-match of skittles games keep in mind Fischer lost some of them, as Fine noted (although for odd reasons Fine implied he won far more than he lost). Here is the position from another game with Fine playing White and Fischer Black:
click for larger viewFischer played Rxe5 and resigned after Qxe5. After ...Qh5+ Qxh5 followed by Nxf8 the endgame is a standard win. Some have suggested an immediate ...Qh5 in the diagram position but White should still win the K and P endgame with Rxh5 followed by fxe3 and Nxf8.
Fine vs Fischer, 1963
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| Jul-21-08 |
| Helios727: Fischer claims that best for black starting at move nine is 9...Q-N5 10. BxP+ K-Q1 11. B-N5+ KN-K2 12. N-Q5 QxQ 13. PxQ B-N3 14. KR-B1 P-KR3 15. RxN PxB 16. NxB BPxN 17. RxNP etc. However, RxNP would not be a legal move on move 17 and black's 15th move is ambiguous since two pawns can make that capture ( although I would assume the QP does since NPxP allows 16. BxN mate). Does anyone know the correct analysis for that line? |
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| Jul-21-08 |
| Lutwidge: I think it's difficult to assess Fine's place in the list of great American chess masters. On one hand, it's possible he was the world's best player in the 1930's. On the other hand, that's really the only decade he played much in and unlike, say, Morphy, he wasn't exactly bowling everyone over - he was just a little bit better, if that. In the end, his run from about 1930 to 1939 feels something like Pillsbury's from 1895-1904. Great, but not as enduring as Reshevsky or arguably even Marshall. |
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| Dec-07-08 |
| centralfiles: 8...Qe7 just doesn't work |
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| Dec-08-08 |
| hackmate: Even on his worse day, Fine was a fine player, due to his last name. |
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| Dec-08-08 |
| AnalyzeThis: Red Auerabach said that the secret of a winner was to know when to quit. Fine was very strong, but he played some games after he was retired like this one where he looked bad. |
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| Feb-22-09 |
| peirce: To FSR :
all right , but the real problem is
this Fine s book the psycology
of the chess player is so annoyng
to the average chess player that I can t help to have a negative attitude
toward Fine . |
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| Mar-01-09 |
| chillowack: Fischer played this game in the style of Paul Morphy, his hero. From the opening moves onward, this was all a game Morphy might have played. Fine contributed too, by playing like one of Morphy's hapless victims. |
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| Mar-25-09 |
| WhiteRook48: 7...dxc3 is very bad |
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| Jun-13-09 |
| zealouspawn: this is probably my favorite ever pun... because the "fine line" seems to be the diagonal that the black queen has to stay on to stave off mate. Clever and positionally relevent pun.. |
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Jun-13-09
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| Once: There is also a fine line between genius and madness, between assertiveness and bullying and (in my games at least) between winning and losing. And (drum roll please!) this is my 1000th post on CG.com. |
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Jun-13-09
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| RandomVisitor: <Helios727>Apparently that line is 9...Qb4 (Bxc3) 10.Bxf7+ Kd8 11.Bg5+ Nge7 12.Nd5 Qxb3 13.axb3 Bb6 14.Rfc1 h6 15.Rxc6 hxg5 16.Nxb6 cxb6 17.Rxb6 however white has 15.Nxb6 cxb6 16.Be3 Kc7 17.b4  . Black can also try 13...Rf8 or 13...Bb4. |
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Jun-13-09
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| RandomVisitor: 14.Qa3 is perhaps stronger than the move played, 14.h4. |
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Jun-13-09
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| kevin86: Instant death-the queen must leave the h4/d8 diagonal and mate will follow. If a stationary store raises its prices for pens after the back to school rush--wouldn't that be called a fine line markUP? |
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Jun-13-09
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| kevin86: BTW,would a fine line be bad for "Fisching"? |
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Jun-13-09
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| hedgeh0g: Not if the fish are already bobby on the water. |
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| Jun-13-09 |
| Christopher93: Damn, 15.Bxg7 ouch! |
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| Jun-13-09 |
| TheChessGuy: <Chilowack> Yeah, this is a great example of Fischer following in Morphy's footsteps. |
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| Jun-13-09 |
| pawneetribe: the loss is bad enough, why do people keep reubin it in? sorry... |
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Jun-13-09
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| johnlspouge: < <patzer2> wrote: [snip] I'm sure your sister will be happy to know you made an exception for her in your generalization about psychiatrists (i.e. they become psychiatrists because they have psychological issues of their own). That speaks well of you and your entire family. > Actually, <patzer2>, my sister describes our family of origin as "dysfunctional". Since she is the psychiatrist, how can I disagree? To make your statement precise, as only a mathematician would ever want to, my exception speaks well, only of me and her ;>) Thank you for your kind comment. Keep well :) |
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| Jun-13-09 |
| Imposter: <It's a fine line between pleasure and painYou've done it once you can do it again
Whatever you've done don't try and explain
It's a fine, fine line between pleasure and pain.> - Lyrics from "Pleasure and Pain" by the Divinyls |
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| Jun-13-09 |
| WhiteRook48: nice decoy |
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Jun-15-09
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| Chessmensch: <kevin86> Most stores are stationary unless they are on a ship or something like that. |
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Oct-20-09
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| holy tramp: A person should pay a Fine for playing this badly... my apologies. |
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