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|Apr-06-14|| ||Rookiepawn: What was wrong with
20. Qxc6 Nxc6
21. Bxe7 Bxe7
22. Rae1 ...
I think White has if not a winning, a very comfy game here.
|Apr-06-14|| ||Cemoblanca: What an explosion of ideas in this 1. Simply Wow!|
|May-21-15|| ||offramp: I seem to remember that in 60MG Fischer admits to some muddled thinking. He examined 22.Rae1 but couldn't see a win. So he just played something else!|
|May-21-15|| ||newzild: This game is in Fischer's M60MG and also Tal's autobiography, both of which I read about 15 years ago. Tal's account is the more colourful.|
From memory ...
Fischer said that at a certain point in the opening he should have played Be3, with "every piece bearing down on Black's king" The move was found by Kevitz (??). Unfortunately, I don't remember the move number.
Tal said that 22. Rae1 was the best move. Fischer wrote it down and pushed the scoresheet towards Tal, who grinned. Fischer then played 22. Qc6+ instead. After the game, Tal asked Fischer why he changed his mind and the American said, "Well, you laughed when I wrote it down!"
|May-21-15|| ||morfishine: <RandomVisitor: ...including, after 12...d5, this queen sacrifice by black> Nice post, very interesting idea|
|May-21-15|| ||HeMateMe: Was Tal really ranked world no. 2 in 1982? After the 60s he was never a threat in the Candidates matches, was he?|
|May-21-15|| ||morfishine: <HeMateMe> Yes, Tal was ranked 2 behind Karpov...a remarkable statistic|
|May-21-15|| ||Howard: No, Tal was actually ranked #2 at the beginning of 1980, not 1982.|
More specifically, he was #2, Korchnoi was #3, and Portisch was #4.
As for #1....well, it wasn't Fischer anymore !
Unfortunately, Tal didn't do well in 1980. He was blown off the board in the quarter-finals Candidates matches, and overall, he lost over 100 points that year in rating points.
Granted, his mother and brother both died that year---that obviously didn't help matters.
|May-21-15|| ||Howard: I wonder, by the way, how many people still get perplexed by that famous typo in the first edition of Fischer's M60MG, in which near the end of the game it looks like Fischer missed an
"obvious win".....when he never did !|
|May-21-15|| ||morfishine: Thanks <Howard> for the clarification|
|May-21-15|| ||Howard: Well, you're talking to a diehard chess buff, including when it comes to chess trivia !|
Besides, I've been a USCF member for 40 years.
|May-21-15|| ||HeMateMe: <Besides, I've been a USCF member for 40 years.>|
We won't hold that against you.
|May-21-15|| ||Petrosianic: <Granted, his mother and brother both died that year---that obviously didn't help matters.>|
And also, Tal never did well against Polugaevsky, who he lost to in the quarterfinals, anyway. Even if we exclude that 1980 match, his record against Polugaevsky was +2-5=19. Adding the match in, it's +2-8=24.
Tal was a great player, but one unfortunate fact about him is that nobody can accept the idea of him losing. Any time he did badly, it just HAD to be his health or some external factor. He was the only chessplayer in the world with an excuse people would buy.
|May-21-15|| ||Howard: For the record, it was Pal Benko--not Tal--who mentioned the deaths of Tal's brother and mother. He did so in his coverage of the Polugaevsky-Tal, 1980 match.|
Don't blame Tal, in other words.
|May-21-15|| ||Petrosianic: Oh, I don't blame Tal. He never made excuses himself.|
|May-21-15|| ||kevin86: Two giants...both winners...this time, it's Tal|
|May-21-15|| ||A.T PhoneHome: Mikhail Tal most probably knew the road he was taking the moment he started drinking. He knew the risks, but he wanted to lead bohemian life which he did.|
He was the last person to make excuses for losing, I think.
|May-21-15|| ||ToTheDeath: <No one was better than Tal in 1959. No one.>|
|May-21-15|| ||Karne: <ToTheDeath: No one was better than Tal in 1959. No one.>|
And not even the Almighty Lord was better than Fischer in 1971.
|May-21-15|| ||jessicafischerqueen: lol good pun|
|May-22-15|| ||reticulate: Help me out here. Why would Fischer not play 20. BxR? If 21....BxR, then 22. Qxe7+ and the Black King's fortress is breached. At the very least, the other rook falls and a mating net seems likely once the other rook gets to the D file. This seems so obvious that I feel I must be missing something.|
|May-22-15|| ||reticulate: Now I see that I erroneously had the Black Queen on a4 rather than c6. That makes a big difference!|
|May-23-15|| ||KID Slayer: Wasn't this GOTD earlier?|
|May-23-15|| ||Howard: No, you're probably thinking of another game from the 1959 Candidates tournament that these two greats played.|
It was from the third round, and it had Tal doubling his ranks on the 8th rank. It was GOTD sometime last year.
|Jul-10-15|| ||Honza Cervenka: 17.Bf4 was a slip that allowed black to ease his position after 17...Qc6 with double attack against g2 and Na4. After simple 17.Rf2! white is better.|
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