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Robert James Fischer vs Mikhail Tal
"Big and Tal" (game of the day Nov-15-07)
Bled-Zagreb-Belgrade Candidates (1959)  ·  Sicilian Defense: Fischer-Sozin Attack. Flank Variation (B87)  ·  0-1
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  offramp: Does anyone know which sports event had been canceled on the day of this game (according to Fischer in 60MG)?
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  HeMateMe: Harlem Globetrotters v. the West Berlin Reichsfuhrers?
Nov-05-12  Nerwal: After 8. 0-0, 8... b4 9. Na4 Nxe4 is simply too dangerous as black is hopelessly behind in development after 10. Re1 d5 11. Bf4 - the opening of the center lines would be instantly fatal. For instance in one of his books Gallagher gives 11. Bf4 Bd7 12. c4 bxc3 13. Nxc3 Nxc3 14. bxc3 , as Bxd5 and Nf5 threats are more than annoying; actually after the natural 14... Be7 15. Bxd5 black is probably already lost. The study of Bc4 sicilian lines, and some Morra lines as well, shows that the seemingly nice e6-d5-Ne4/Be4 constructions aren't that solid when the black king still stands in the center.
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  Joshka: <Hesam7> <It's interesting that Fischer did not consider 24. Qf6 in his annotation in "M60MG". Any thoughts?> Correct, but in his updated version from 2007 he writes, "I talked myself out of playing 24. Qf6 Rf8 25. Qxa6 Qb7 26. Qh6 Qd5 27. Qxh7 because I thought that after 24. Rxf7 Kxf7 25. Qe6+ Tal would have to go to g7. His upcoming 25th move was much better."
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  perfidious: The fiction continues......
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  TheFocus: ...and the world keeps on a'spinnin'.
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  harrylime: Tal was bust and he knew it..
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  AylerKupp: Yes, that's what made Tal different than Fischer. Tal was bust and he knew it. Fischer was bust and he didn't know it. LOL !
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  Joshka: <offramp> A soccer event.
Mar-09-13  justin2seo: Wow my favourite tal toys with fischer.
Sep-04-13  hudman653: Why didn't Bobby play b3 on move 18 and save the Knight. I have never seen an explanation for this
Sep-04-13  mojonera: 18 b3 Qg2 ++
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  morfishine: <DrMAL> Your comment here is only partially correct: <...By 1961 Tal was no longer Tal, his health was bad. He rematch with Botvinnik showed this> This was temporary as evidenced by Tal returning to form repeatedly, health permitting. For example, as late as 1982, Tal had ascended to #2 in the World


Dec-08-13  RookFile: A problem is that #2 is not #1.
Dec-08-13  RandomVisitor: A modern look at 22.Rae1:

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Rybka 4.1 x64:

<[+0.00] d=22 22...Kd8> 23.Rxe7 Bxe7 24.Qd5+ Bd6 25.Rf6 Rg6 26.Rxf7 Qb5 27.Qa8+ Bb8 28.Rf8+ Kc7 29.Rf7+ Kc8 30.Rf8+ Kc7 31.Rf7+ Kc8 32.Rf8+ Kc7 33.Rf7+ Kc8 34.Rf8+ Kc7 35.Rf7+ Kc8 36.Rf8+ Kc7 37.Rf7+ Kc8

[+0.00] d=22 22...Kd7 23.Qd5+ Qd6 24.Qb7+ Ke8 25.Qc8+ Qd8 26.Qc4 Rg7 27.Qxa6 Rxe1 28.Qb5+ Qd7 29.Qb8+ Qd8 30.Qb5+ Qd7 31.Qb8+ Qd8 32.Qb5+ Qd7 33.Qb8+ Qd8 34.Qb5+ Qd7 35.Qb8+ Qd8 36.Qb5+ Qd7 37.Qb8+ Qd8

Dec-09-13  RandomVisitor: After 15...Re7:

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Rybka 4.1 x64:

<[+0.89] d=23 16.c3> Bb7 17.Bh3 Rg6 18.Bf4 Bg7 19.Kh1 Nc6 20.Qd2 Ne5 21.cxb4 Nc4 22.Qf2 Kf8 23.Rac1 Qe8 24.Rxc4 Qxa4 25.b3 Qe8 26.Bg3 Re2 27.Qa7 Re7 28.Qg1 Kg8 29.Bf5 Re2 30.Rc7

[+0.79] d=23 16.Bxc8 Qxc8 17.Rf2 Rg6 18.Bf4 Re4 19.Bg3 Qb7 20.Qf3 Re7 21.c3 Qxf3 22.Rxf3 Rb7 23.b3 Nc6

Dec-10-13  RandomVisitor: After 12.Nxf5:

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Rybka 4.1 x64:

<[+0.76] d=23 12...Qc7> 13.Be3 Rg8 14.Nb6 Bb7 15.Ba4+ Kd8 16.Nxa8 Bxa8 17.Nh4 Nc5 18.Bb3 Qc6 19.Qd2 Nbd7 20.Rxf7 Be7 21.Nf3 Nf6 22.Rf1 Ke8 23.Rxe7+ Kxe7 24.Bg5 Nce4 25.Bxf6+ Nxf6 26.Qxb4 Rg4 27.Qa5

Dec-10-13  sfm: <hudman653: Why didn't Bobby play b3 on move 18 and save the Knight. I have never seen an explanation for this >

<mojonera: 18 b3 Qg2#>

Well, OK, but still...

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  TheFocus: Yeah, mate trumps winning a piece most days.
Dec-10-13  RandomVisitor: Tal could have played 12...d5, but would have faced unexpected complications:

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Rybka 4.1 x64:

<[+0.74] d=21 13.Ne3> Bg7 14.Nxd5 Bb7 15.Qf3 0-0 16.Qxe4 Bxd5 17.Qxb4 Nc6 18.Qg4 Bxb3 19.axb3 Qd4+ 20.Qxd4 Nxd4 21.Rf2 Rac8 22.Nc3 Rc6 23.g3 h5 24.Kg2 Nf5

Dec-10-13  RandomVisitor: ...including, after 12...d5, this queen sacrifice by black

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Rybka 4.1 x64:

<[+0.85] d=23 13.Ne3> Bg7 14.Nxd5 Bb7 15.Qg4 Bd4+ 16.Be3 <Qxd5 17.Bxd5> Bxe3+ 18.Kh1 Bxd5 19.Qh5 Nd7 20.Rxf7 0-0-0 21.Qe2 Nf2+ 22.Rxf2 Bxf2 23.Qxf2 Rdf8 24.Qe2 Rhg8 25.Rg1 Kb7 26.c3 Rxg2 27.Rxg2 Rg8 28.cxb4

Jan-05-14  Eric Farley: Fischer: "1.e4. Best by test."
Mar-12-14  James Bowman: Fun and instructive never play the obvious when you can be creative instead.
Apr-06-14  Rookiepawn: What was wrong with

20. Qxc6 Nxc6
21. Bxe7 Bxe7
22. Rae1 ...

I think White has if not a winning, a very comfy game here.

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