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Oct-02-08
 | | maxi: The move 7.Bc4 seems to me to be positionally suspect. It allows to Blacks Queen-side expansion. Altogether Fischer's opening scheme seems ineffective. |
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Oct-02-08
| | maxi: After 18...f5 follows 19.Qe2, not 19.Qe5, and Black is left with a very weak Pawn structure. |
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Oct-03-08
| | maxi: It is interesting to observe that after the move 17.Bc4 the statistics of ChessGames shows that White is down 5 percentage points with respect to Black in winning, 18.4% versus 23.4%. Perhaps the popularity of this dubious line is due to this game, precisely. But White's win has nothing to do with the opening. |
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Oct-10-08
 | | The Lone Banana: <choke artist: I'm kind of surprised at Fischer choosing 22 Qxc5 over Qxg7. . . .> After 22. Qxg7 black can only save material by 22. ... Ke7. This, however, is not a bad place for a king to be when castling is out of the question. White's queen is then without a flight square, subject to attack by either rook, distant from help, and has only one move to save itself. Can white get out without being forced to trade Q for R and p? |
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Feb-09-09
 | | Eyal: The point of the trap Petrosian set by 21...h6 is 22.Qxg7(?) Ke7 23.dxc5 Qc6! (not 23...Qa6, as said by someone above) 24.Bg6 Rdf8 25.Bxf7 Qe4+! 26.Ka1 Rh7. With the queen on a6 in this line, there's no check on e4 and 25...Rh7 fails to 26.Qg6 R(f/h)xf7 27.Rd6 followed by 28.Re1. In the end, Petrosian's king walks straight into a mating net (though Black is lost anyway); maybe he was expecting 36.Kxb4(?) Nd5+ 37.Kc4 Ne3+ 38.Kd3 Rxg3 39.b4 Nd5+ which holds the draw for Black. |
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| May-05-09 | | holy tramp: holy tramp: Please forgive a dumb question, but how can this be called the Caro-Kann Defense: Karpov Variation (B17), when it was clearly played by GMs while Karpov was still wearing a propeller cap? If anything, shouldn't this be called the Petrosian Variation?! And if variations are simply designated arbitrarily, then I'm claiming the formidable but currently misunderstood 3...h5 as the Caro-Kann Defense: Holy Tramp Variation... |
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May-05-09
| | blacksburg: sometimes it's called the karpov, sometimes called the petrosian, sometimes the steinitz variation. these nomenclature things are not worth arguing about. for what it's worth, the first example in the database was played by nimzovitch. http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... |
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| May-06-09 | | holy tramp: (blacksburg) Thanks for the lead- yes looks like Steinitz and others were playing it in the 1890s, albeit with mixed results. I suppose Karpov perfected the line, but I'll need to study more modern games and compare. Thanks! |
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| Jun-22-09 | | lzromeu: why 26...Ra8?
Fischer doesnt forgiven mistakes |
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Jun-22-09
 | | Travis Bickle: A good pun for this game would be "Ive Got A Tiger By The Tail" ; P |
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Nov-17-11
| | birthtimes: Petrosian as Black had played the first 13 moves of this game 2 years earlier against Matanovic in 1959. Surely Fischer was familiar with this game, and deviates on move 14, as then Matanovic played 14.Rhe1 and Petrosian played 14...O-O. |
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Nov-17-11
| | AnalyzeThis: Interesting point. Fischer says that Petrosian still had a super solid position, but overlooked an obvious capture. |
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| Nov-17-11 | | Petrosianic: <why 26...Ra8?
Fischer doesnt forgiven mistakes>
Ra8 is fine, it's 27...Rd6 that's the mistake. |
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| Aug-24-12 | | Marmot PFL: This is a strange ending by black, as instead of the complicated 27...Rd6 the obvious move is 27...Nxe4. In endings like this the bishop will almost always be stronger than the knight. |
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Aug-24-12
 | | perfidious: < Marmot PFL: This is a strange ending by black, as instead of the complicated 27...Rd6 the obvious move is 27...Nxe4....> Wasn't Fischer's note to this move in MSMG something like this: 'Serendipity. Simply 27....Nxe4 leads to a dead draw.'? |
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Aug-24-12
 | | TheFocus: <Wasn't Fischer's note to this move in MSMG something like this: 'Serendipity. Simply 27....Nxe4 leads to a dead draw.'?> Yes. And he gave 27...Rd6! |
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| Aug-24-12 | | Marmot PFL: 27...R-Q3? in my old copy. Maybe some copying mistakes were made in converting the text to algebraic. |
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Aug-29-12
| | TheFocus: This is game 31 in Fischer's <My 60 Memorable Games>. |
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Aug-29-12
| | TheFocus: <Marmot PFL>< 27...R-Q3? in my old copy.> Your version is correct. 27...Rd6? |
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Oct-07-12
| | erniecohen: As far as I can tell, 33... c7 (which Fischer doesn't mention in his book) seems like a draw. For example, 34.  xb4  d7 35. b7+ c8 36. b5 xh3+ 37. a4 xg3+ 38. b4 xc5 39. xc5+ b8 40.  c6 xb4. Anyone claim a win for White? |
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Oct-07-12
 | | harrylime: 27.. Ne4 is a draw..
This is why I love MSMG ..
Bobby just put in HIS memorable games .. |
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Oct-07-12
| | RookFile: If anything, I would prefer black after 27..... Nxe4, but I'm sure at the GM level it's still an easy draw. |
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| Oct-08-12 | | kaingero: Petrosian's king is at the middle, to be mated next move.
Nobody could not do this to Petrosian, the master of strategy.
Hmmm...Fischer was so good. |
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Oct-08-12
 | | HeMateMe: petrosian didn't have any better luck, ten years later. |
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Nov-06-12
 | | sneaky pete: White could have played 22.Qxg7 .. and if 22... Ke7 23.dxc5 Qc6 24.Bg6 Rdf8 Igor Arkadievich Zaitsev suggested (around 1972) 25.Rhe1 ..
click for larger viewwhen after 25... Rhg8 26.Rd6 Rxg7 (26... Qc8 27.Rexe6+ Qxe6 28.Rxe6+ Kxe6 29.Bf5+ .. winning) 27.Rxc6 Rxg6 28.Rc7+ .. 
click for larger viewblack is in big trouble. |
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