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Robert James Fischer vs Tigran Vartanovich Petrosian
"King Leer" (game of the day Apr-16-09)
Bled-Zagreb-Belgrade Candidates (1959)  ·  Caro-Kann Defense: Two Knights Attack. Mindeno Variation Exchange Line (B11)  ·  0-1
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Oct-29-11
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  HeMateMe: The first decisive Fischer/Petrosian encounter, '59 Candidates tournament. Sixteen year old Bob seems to be breaking into black's porous castled position, but Petrosian puts up a great King walk, to advance the Q-side pawns.
Nov-24-11  Eric Farley: Mr Fischer, You lost 0-4 to Tal and 0.5-3.5 to Petrosian in this tournament. What happened to your "e4 is best by test?"
That doesn't mean I think d4 is better, but simply that neither is necessarily better than the other.
Nov-24-11  sfm: This games also shows that Fischer was what all great chessplayers are: a fighter.
Mar-27-12  drukenknight: 26 Qf4 followed by QxQ seems to lead to an interesting endgame. Still looking at it to be sure, move 26 might be one of the last chances for white to hold on; as the latter stages of this are bleak for white. Having re looked at this, it is very good game for both sides, I think this is their first encounter?
Jun-04-12
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  King Sacrificer: What a beautiful game of chess. Petrosian must have been impressed by the kid's fighting spirit. A well deserved win!
Jun-04-12  RookFile: Except for Steinitz, there was no other champion as brave with his king as Petrosian.
Jul-24-12
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  perfidious: <ChessYouGood: Fischer ought to have resigned much earlier. Typical arrogance from the weakest of the world champs.>

Really? By what standard would one conclude that this should be Fischer's place in the firmament? This statement is almost as humorous as much of the current hijinks in this thread: World Blitz Championship (2012).

Jul-24-12  Mudphudder: Fischer definitely wasn't the weakest of the world champs. Farthest from it, in my opinion.
Aug-05-12  backrank: Chernev gives a fantastic line which could have occurred if Fischer had played 43 Qb4 instead of 43 Qc4:


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43 ... Qb5! 44 Qxb5 axb5 45 Be2 (of course not 46 Rxb5?? Rxf3!)


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45 ... b4!! 46 Bxd3 Nxd3 47 Rd1 (Kf3 or Kf1 Nc1! and the pawn queens!)


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47 ... b3! 48 Rxd2 b2 and White has to give up his rook (Rd1 Nc1):


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Wow ... just unbelievable!

Aug-05-12  Toliman: Cool combo! Leave it to Petrosian to sac the exchange even in the endgame.
Aug-05-12  backrank: <Toliman> You're right, typical Petrosianic moves even in the notes!

Another Petrosianic move in the variations would have been possible if in the position after 23 ... Qxe5


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White would have played 24 f4 (instead of Rc4). Then 24 ... exf4 25 gxf4 Qh8!!


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Believe it or not, White is lost now! Black will win via 26 ... Rxg2(+)! followed by Rg8(+) regardless of White's 26th move. Check it out!

Nov-13-12
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  Cemoblanca: I simply call this 1 "Baby Steps" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3JP... ;)
Jun-12-13  Mudphudder: What a grind! This game, especially the ending, must have been tremendous torture for Fischer to play.
Jun-27-13  Slink: I love seeing Fisher lose.
Nov-16-13  zydeco: I'm wondering about 22.e5!? as a possibility for white. His main problem is that the bishop is inferior to black's knights (once a piece gets established on e5), and it can't hurt to trade a pair of knights or create a possible pin on the e-file. The e4 pawn isn't covering any squares that can't be covered by the bishop.
Jan-12-14  KingPetrosian: Brilliant use of knight and rook! They were each positioned in ideal spots. Of course, the game also has Petrosian's famous king walk, or dance, where the king goes off wondering on the board despite all potential danger! Marvelous!
Feb-19-14  ChessYouGood: The last 30 moves are pointless here. Fischer just shuffles his pieces around without any plan or any hope.
Feb-19-14
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  OhioChessFan: I'm with <CYG> This was spitefulness by Fischer, not tenaciousness. There was absolutely no way the a and b Pawns were going to be stopped.
Feb-19-14
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  offramp: A horrible thing in chess is to have a position that is definitely lost but is not quite resignable. One might be just one pawn down - and if you resign you think, <"The guys will definitely say I resigned too early.">

Then - once you have continued for a while you think, <"I can't resign now; the position is more or less the same as it was 10 moves ago!">

So you carry on.

Feb-19-14
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  perfidious: <offramp: A horrible thing in chess is to have a position that is definitely lost but is not quite resignable.>

Botterill wrote that such a dilemma was the 'tournament player's nightmare' in his comments to the loser's plight during the proceedings of Nunn vs Huebner, 1981 in the work <Open Gambits>.

Feb-19-14
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  tamar: Ree talks about the frustration of having no good reason to resign in the 1979 video http://en.chessbase.com/post/the-lo...

He saw that Petrosian could win a pawn by force, and thought he could resign in a few moves, and at least it would be over.

"Instead the scoundrel played g3, h3, h4, Kg2, only moves that enforced his position, and had no value. They only served to make me suffer..." (18:43)

Feb-19-14
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  perfidious: <"Instead the scoundrel played g3, h3, h4, Kg2, only moves that enforced his position, and had no value. They only served to make me suffer...">

Dirty wretch, though Ree's fate was less ignominious than that which befell Black in Petrosian vs H Ree, 1971.

Feb-19-14
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  keypusher: That's a great quote from Ree. Here is the game, presumably.

Petrosian vs H Ree, 1973

Feb-20-14
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  OhioChessFan: <offramp> interesting thought and I'll take that under advisement, although I still think it was a totally hopeless position.
Feb-21-14  SChesshevsky: I'm guessing the way it played out was...

Fischer thought he was better at 23...Qxe5 and he's probably right.

Then around 31...Nxc5 he realizes he didn't have the right plan of attack and is now worse and tries to mix it up with Kside majority hoping to equalize.

Around 44...a5 he probably figures he's still got drawing chances depending on Black's play. 45. Bg4 would've been interesting.

As the a&b pawn advance he knows his chances are fading and he's scrambling for some counterplay.

Once 57...b3 and the protected passed pawn reaches the sixth rank, Fischer knows he's busted and he's looking for a perpetual or a way to move his advanced pawn.

I'm assuming he played on as long as possible because he thought he was better at one point and wouldn't want to lose after that if there's any chance to save the game, he probably did have some drawing possibilities to around move 48 or so, and he knew he'd have to eventually beat Petrosian to get to the top so why not see his technique OTB as it might come in handy later.

GM's, even teenage ones, usually have pretty good reasons for what they play.

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