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Bobby Fischer vs Mikhail Tal
"Gone 4-0 While" (game of the day Nov-05-2009)
Bled-Zagreb-Belgrade Candidates (1959), Bled, Zagreb & Belgrade YUG, rd 13, Sep-28
Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation (B90)  ·  0-1

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Jan-11-18
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  perfidious: <td....This has to be one of Fischer's worse games ever.>

Sounds about right, but in my opinion, Fischer vs Keres, 1959, played five rounds before this debacle, was an even nastier defeat for the young grandmaster.

As Wade laconically noted in his work on Fischer:

<Vintage Tal>

Jan-11-18  technical draw: <perfidious> And in both games Fischer had white. The final position in this game looks horrendous for Fischer. Say it ain't so, Bobby!
Jan-31-18  yurikvelo: https://pastebin.com/n4JxKQiL

multiPV

Jan-31-18  RookFile: Actually I don't know how Fischer even played 32. Kh3 with a straight face against Tal. He would have deeply understood that black never gets it so good in something like the King's Indian where you bet the house on a kingside attack. Resigning was probably a better choice.
Jan-31-18  ughaibu: <black never gets it so good in something like the King's Indian>

Is the sicilian something like the kings-indian?

Jan-31-18  morfishine: I think Black plays the Sicilian vs <1.e4> & the Kings Indian vs <1.d4>...other than that, they are identical defenses...I think

*****

Feb-01-18  RookFile: I'm just thinking of black's counterplay down the g file. For example, in this game Lombardy murders Reshevsky:

Reshevsky vs Lombardy, 1958

May-10-20  carpovius: Fisher needed 13 yrs more to win WC, Tal - only 1.
Aug-02-20  talhal20: If anybody could play chess like Paul Morphy it was Tal.
Aug-02-20
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sally Simpson: ***

I can see the point of view but most Masters could and can turn on the Morphy in them if given the chance.

Topalov vs Speelman, 1995

Tal's gifted play took Morphy up a level.

***

Nov-26-22  ChessIsLife159753: Absolutely fantastic game. 21...f5!! is a stunner: Tal doesn't want an open f- or h-file, but an open g-file!
Nov-26-22
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  perfidious: <naisortep: Video of the game where Tal pretends to play c6 is available....>

In due time, Tal would often push that cheeky c-pawn the one square only; by the 1980s, the Caro-Kann became a staple of his repertoire.

Nov-26-22
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  fredthebear: Not my definition of staple.

1.e4 vs Tal:

1...c5 345
1...e5 94
1...c6 29
1...e6 13
1...d6 8
1...Nf6 7
1...g6 5
1...d5 1

Nov-27-22
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  perfidious: <fredthebore> needs a lesson in the subtleties of English.

#fredthenonentityowned

Nov-27-22
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  fredthebear: Another personal attack, has nothing to do with chess. This misbehavior has been allowed on this website for years. Folks, don't take no crap off the big perd.
Dec-11-24  ColdSong: Painful.Fischer plays something really dangerous without knowing it very well.
Dec-11-24  Petrosianic: <ColdSong: Painful.Fischer plays something really dangerous without knowing it very well.>

No, Fischer knew both the Sicilian and this variation very well. He just got outplayed.

Dec-11-24  ColdSong: I have no doubt you're not mad.
Dec-12-24  ColdSong: You don't try much to understand what I mean,and let you be idiot just for the pleasure to say no.But all right,the reader will be free to know what to think of your opinion.And by the way,the most courageous are invited to admire your brilliant mind to the game Spassky Seirawan you know.Now please go jump in the lake.
Jun-01-25  Zugzwangovich: In his book "Mikhail Tal's Best Games of Chess", P.H. Clarke wrote that 25...Rg8 would have been a ”hasty move” that "bungles everything". Years later, in "How to Beat Bobby Fischer", Edmar Mednis wrote, "Of course, 25...Rg8 also won".

Kinda seems one of them was off base here.

Jun-01-25
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  perfidious: <naisortep: Video of the game where Tal pretends to play c6 is available here - although it might expire on Twitter. But its bound to pop up somewhere else on the internet.>

While I have nothing to do with Twitter if at all possible, Tal's stutter step with the c-pawn can be found in the early stages of the video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fer...

Jun-01-25
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  beatgiant: <Zugzwangovich> White has a counter-combination with 25...Rg8 26. Qxf4, but I can't quite make it work so it looks like Clarke is the one who was off base.

For example 25...Rg8 26. Qxf4 Bxc5+ 27. Nxc5 Rxg2+ 28. Kf1 <Qg7> is one refutation. White will have to drop some material to stop the attack.

Jun-02-25  Zugzwangovich: <beatgiant> FWIW, Clarke's analysis went "25...Rg8 26. Qxf4 Rxg2+ 27. Kf1 exf4 28. Rxe7 Qb8 29. Bd4+ Kg8 30. c5+ Kf8 31. Rf7+ Ke8 32. Re1+ Be4 33. Nb6, and White should win."
Jun-03-25
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  beatgiant: <Zugzwangovich> Even in Clarke's line, Black can improve:

25...Rg8 26. Qxf4 Rxg2+ 27. Kf1 exf4 28. Rxe7 Qb8? Here, <28...Qxe7 29. Bxe7 h5> and Black is better in this endgame.

Following Clarke to the end with 28...Qb8, then 29. Bd4+ Kg8 30. c5+ Kf8 31. Rf7+ Ke8 32. Re1+ Be4 33. Nb6 gives a complex position, and it's not at all obvious that White's winning. In fact, the engine suggests 33...Qd8 and claims an eval of 0.0.

Jun-04-25  Zugzwangovich: <beatgiant> Thank you. I really appreciate your help in enlightening this poor patzer.
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