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Robert James Fischer vs Jan Hein Donner
Second Piatigorsky Cup (1966), Santa Monica, CA USA, rd 4, Jul-21
Spanish Game: Marshall Attack. Modern Main Line (C89)  ·  1/2-1/2


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Jul-05-06  RookFile: If memory serves, Fischer was thinking about a winning variation in this game, but a photographer snapped a picture, and Fischer lost his train of thought.
Jul-05-06  KingG: The most ridiculous excuse yet.
Jul-05-06  RookFile: Yeah, almost as bad as resigning in a drawn position.
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  Pawn and Two: In the tournament book, "Second Piatigorsky Cup", Donner stated after Black's 29th move: <Black has not played very cleverly and is in a bad position. After 30.Qb1! he probably loses another pawn.>

Then after White's 30th move, Donner stated: <After touching the bishop Fischer sat for seconds with his finger on the piece desperately looking for another move. He had seen the point at the last minute - as usual - but there is no other move! The exchange of queens leads to a dead draw.>

Regarding Donner's recommendation of 30.Qb1, 30.Qe2 and next Bd3, appears to be a stronger continuation.

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  Marmot PFL: 16...Nxe3 looks premature. My advice is when in doubt play Rae8.
Jul-06-06  RandomVisitor: After 29...Qf5, Rybka (ultraslow) 20-ply search:
1: Fischer Robert - Donner Jan-Hein, Santa Monica Rd: 4 1966

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Analysis by Rybka 2.0 Beta 8 mp:

1. (1.06): 30.Qb1 Rd8 31.Qb3 Rxd4 32.Rc3 Be7 33.Rf3 Qc8 34.Bxf7+ Kh8 35.Rd3 Rb4 36.Qd5 Qf8

2. (1.00): 30.Qe2 Bb4 31.Rb2 a5 32.Rb3 Qd7 33.Rf3 Rf8 34.Qe4 Qc7 35.Qd5 g6 36.Kg2 Kg7

(, 06.07.2006)

Jul-06-06  Hesam7: A twin game: Fischer vs J H Donner, 1965. It is interesting that Fischer is the first player to deviate.
Jul-06-06  RandomVisitor: After 29...Qf5, Rybka (ultraslow) 25-ply search:
1: Fischer Robert - Donner Jan-Hein, Santa Monica Rd: 4 1966

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Analysis by Rybka 2.0 Beta 8 mp:

1. (1.13): 30.Qb1 Rd8 31.Qb3 Rxd4 32.Rc3 Be7 33.Rf3 Qc8 34.Bxf7+ Kh8 35.Rc3 Qf8 36.Rc7 Rd8

2. (1.07): 30.Qe2 Bb4 31.Rb2 a5 32.Rb3 Qd7 33.Rf3 Rf8 34.Qe4 g6 35.Qe5 a4 36.Kg2 a3

(, 06.07.2006)

Nov-06-09  WhiteRook48: 30 Qd3
Nov-06-09  GreenFacedPatzer: Really dumb question:

Why doesn't black play 16 ... Bf3?

There must be some escape from the immediate mate threat, since Fischer allows it and Donner plays something else, but for the life of me I can't see how white would escape checkmate.

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  Benzol: 16...Bf3 17.Qf1 stops the mate.
Nov-06-09  GreenFacedPatzer: Duh!

Thanks <Benzol>. It's good to be able to ask questions here, where it seems the average user is at least 500 elo stronger than me. :)

Nov-06-09  AnalyzeThis: Hey, good for you, green. You knew that Fischer couldn't have overlooked this if it was any good. A lot of people haven't learned that yet.
Oct-11-11  Everett: Position after 30.Bd3 is lesson #49 in "You vs Fischer" by Khmelnitzky. Recommended.
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