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Robert James Fischer vs Bent Larsen
"Game of the Dane" (game of the day Jul-16-09)
Palma de Mallorca Interzonal (1970)  ·  Sicilian Defense: Fischer-Sozin Attack. Leonhardt Variation (B88)  ·  0-1
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May-02-11  qqdos: P.S. A gloss on the above anecdote comes from David Levy's 1974 book Sacrifices in the Sicilian. At p.26 Levy writes that Velimirovic, at the time, described Fischer's move 12.h4? as 'criminal'! He had previously urged Fischer to play 12.g5 in this position but was ignored. It seems that Black's reply to either move is 12...Nc5 anyway, so the lines transpose. After 13 moves Larsen had only consumed 3 minutes!
Jul-08-11  Tigranny: I think Larsen or Keres was the best player not being world champion. Is 24.Rhg1 a blunder because it loses a minor piece?
Jul-08-11  psmith: <zev22407>, <fab4>

Using Fritz 5.32 as analysis aid I come up with this:

27. Rxd6 Bxa4 (with the ideaQxc2+) and now
a) 28. Kd2 Qxc2+ 29. Ke3 Raf8
b) 28. Rg2 Bb3 (with the idea Ra1+ and Qxc2+ to follow) 29. Rd8+ Rxd8 30. Nxd8 Ra7 c) 28. Qg2 Bb3 29. Kb1 Rfa7

Nov-15-11  DrMAL: Position was repeated in Anand vs Salov, 1997 where Anand played 12.Nf5! slightly different than in Nakamura vs Van Wely, 2007 where black played 11...Na5 instead. Na5 gives option to take B on b3 and it prevents 12.Nf5 but it also adds one tempo difference to pawn advance that is very significant. Pawn advance g4-h4-g5 (g4-g5-h4 there) is not nearly as effective without extra tempo from Na5. In very sharp position one tempo often makes big difference, this is good example, cheers.
Mar-04-12
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  Bishoprick: Kingfu is wrong on Geller being the only one with a positive score against Fischer. Tal did also, I believe.
Mar-05-12  Julian713: <<Bishoprick:> Kingfu is wrong on Geller being the only one with a positive score against Fischer. Tal did also, I believe.>

Yes, he did. There may be a few from Fischer's early days who only played him once and won, but as far as I know Geller and Tal are the only ones who have positive scores against Fischer with any significant number of matches.

Mar-05-12  King Death: < Julian713: <<Bishoprick:> Kingfu is wrong on Geller being the only one with a positive score against Fischer. Tal did also, I believe.> Yes, he did. There may be a few from Fischer's early days who only played him once and won, but as far as I know Geller and Tal are the only ones who have positive scores against Fischer with any significant number of matches.>

You're right, there were no players that managed a plus against Fischer in any meaningful number of games. Even when he was a world class GM you had guys like Janosevic and Kovacevic who won (in 1 game each) but nobody excpet Tal and Geller got the job done over time.

Mar-05-12  SimonWebbsTiger: Fischer-Tal +2=5-4. The losses were all from the 1959 Candidates.

Pachmann played +2=4-2
Ficher's score was "close" v. Gligoric +6=6-4

Whilst the strong American master Abe Turner could boast =1+2 against a young Bobby.

Mar-05-12  RookFile: It's official: Bobby Fischer lost some games of chess to some people.

Glad we got that cleared up.

Mar-05-12  King Death: <RookFile: It's official: Bobby Fischer lost some games of chess to some people...>

One or two. Mayhap.

Mar-05-12  SimonWebbsTiger: <rookfile>

just noting the official record for others edification.

Bobby lost to a guy called Spassky, too. You know -- a Soviet guy called Boris.

Mar-05-12
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  TheFocus: List of people that have beaten Fischer in chess.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...

Mar-05-12  Penguincw: And Fischer's losses:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...

Mar-05-12  RookFile: Ok, it's settled. Max Pavey was the greatest player in the history of chess.
Mar-05-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  TheFocus: <RookFile>< Ok, it's settled. Max Pavey was the greatest player in the history of chess.>

Finally, someone who agrees with me!

Feb-24-13  Damianx: King Death Tal in press interview said no i had a winning score against young Robert not against Mr Fischer
Feb-25-13  Oginschile: Tal was one of the greatest gentleman the game of Chess has known.
Sep-09-13  Everett: <TheFocus: List of people that have beaten Fischer in chess. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o>...

Who is responsible for the loss of Fischer's mind?

Apr-13-14  Everett: <RookFile: It's official: Bobby Fischer lost some games of chess to some people. Glad we got that cleared up.>

It's official: some people get butt-hurt because they are too attached to chessplayers

Apr-13-14  Petrosianic: <Even when he was a world class GM you had guys like Janosevic and Kovacevic who won (in 1 game each))

Kovacevic, yes. Janosevic, no. His winning record against Fischer is based on three games played. So is Abe Turner's.

Apr-13-14
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  Bobby Spassky: Fischer lost to only person that was younger than him.
Apr-13-14  Everett: Two, technically. Game Collection: ROOT OF SPAWN or Bobby vs The Youth

Of course, the sample size is ridiculously small, since he quit at 29.

Aug-01-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: OK pun, but I would have called it "Grand Larseny"
Aug-01-14
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  thegoodanarchist: <SimonWebbsTiger: ...

Whilst the strong American master Abe Turner could boast =1+2 against a young Bobby.>

And if Bruce Lee were 8 years old right now you could kick his butt!

Aug-01-14
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  thegoodanarchist: And after playing over the game, it is clear to me that the "Great Dane" Bent Larsen was amply prepared for Bobby's g-pawn attack.

Maybe this is Larsen's high water mark in chess. It certainly didn't come later than this!

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