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| Apr-10-05 |
| a.dehaybe: [Event "Herceg Novi blitz"]
[Site "Herceg Novi blitz"]
[Date "1970.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Fischer Robert J"]
[Black "Matulovic Milan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C63"]
[Annotator "Shredder 9 (30s)"]
[PlyCount "65"]
[EventDate "1970.??.??"]
C63: uy Lopez: Schliemann/Jaenisch Defence 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 f5 4.
Nc3 fxe4 5. Nxe4 d5 6. Nxe5 dxe4 7. Nxc6 Qg5 8. Qe2 Nf6 9. f4 Qxf4 10. d4 Qh4+
11. g3 Qh3 12. Bg5 a6 13. Ba4 Bd7 last book move 14. Bxf6 gxf6 15. Qxe4+ Kf7
16. Ne5+ fxe5 17. Rf1+ (17. Bb3+ $142 Be6 18. Rf1+ Kg8 19. Qh4 Qxh4 20. Bxe6+ (
20. gxh4 $4 Bxb3 21. axb3 exd4 $19) 20... Kg7 21. gxh4 $16) 17... Ke7 $11 18.
Bxd7 Kxd7 (Less advisable is 18... Qxd7 19. O-O-O (19. Qxe5+ $2
is a blank shot Qe6 $19) 19... Qe6 20. dxe5 $14) 19. Rf7+ (19. Qxb7 Qe6 20.
O-O-O e4 $17) 19... Ke8 (19... Be7 20. O-O-O Rad8 21. Qxb7 Qh6+ 22. Kb1 e4 $11)
20. Rxc7 $14 Bd6 $2 (20... Qe6 $142 $14 is just about the only chance) 21.
Rxb7 $18 Rc8 22. O-O-O (22. dxe5 $142 Qe6 23. O-O-O $18) 22... Qxh2 $4
an oversight. ut lack was lost anyway. (22... Qh6+ $142 23. Kb1 Qh5 $18) 23.
dxe5 Be7 24. Rxe7+ $1 forces the win Kxe7 Decoy theme: e7 25. Qb7+ Ke6 (
25... Rc7 does not help much 26. Qxc7+ Ke6 27. Rd6+ Kf5 28. Rf6+ Ke4 29. Rf4+
Ke3 30. Qc3+ Ke2 31. Qd2#) 26. Qd7+ Kxe5 27. Qd5+ (27. Rd5+ Kf6 28. Rf5+ Kg6
29. Qf7+ Kh6 30. Qf6#) 27... Kf6 28. Rf1+ Kg6 (28... Qf2
doesn't get the cat off the tree 29. Rxf2+ Kg6 30. Qf5+ Kh6 31. Qf6+ Kh5 32.
Rh2+ Kg4 33. Qf4#) 29. Qf5+ (29. Qe6+ Kh5 30. Rf5+ Kg4 31. Rf4+ Kh5 32. Qg4+
Kh6 33. Rf6#) 29... Kh6 30. Qe6+ Kh5 31. Rf5+ Kg4 32. Rf4+ Kxg3 (32... Kg5
doesn't get the bull off the ice 33. Qg4+ Kh6 34. Rf6#) 33. Qg4# 1-0 |
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| Sep-08-05 |
| RookFile: This is a quality blitz game, with a theoretical novelty thrown in. |
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| Jan-18-06 |
| chesscrazy: I think 9...Qh4+ was the better move and that Fischer missed 10.Ne5! |
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| Jan-18-06 |
| Steppenwolf: 10 Ne5? c6. EOF. |
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| Apr-14-06 |
| Maatalkko: Fischer in 1970 wasn't the strongest player of all time, Fischer in 1971 was. And of course it is ridiculous to compare Fischer to Tal, Karpov, and Kasparov, because he had far fewer opportunities to practice against top-level competition. The fact that he never won a Soviet Championship quality tournament attests to his lack of opportunity, and shows him as a better player because he was able to achieve world dominance without regular practice against the best. The best player of all time though has to be Morphy. When you consider that he was basically a kid from New Orleans with no instruction who was forty years ahead of his time on intuition alone, its hard to make a cogent argument for anyone else. |
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| Jan-18-07 |
| AAAAron: Who played chess better than Fischer in 1970..... The answer is Fischer in 1971. Isn't that the year he had his winning streak, dominated tounaments and beat some tough competition to challenge the world champion. |
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| Jan-18-07 |
| RookFile: <Maatalkko: The best player of all time though has to be Morphy. When you consider that he was basically a kid from New Orleans with no instruction who was forty years ahead of his time on intuition alone, its hard to make a cogent argument for anyone else.> Well, Fischer himself said that in a set match, Morphy would beat anybody. True, Fischer left himself out of the discussion of who the best player was. Who would win between Fischer and Morphy, if we took the common sense step of allowing Morphy to study all the chess that occurred after his death? I have no idea. Remember, when Fischer was a kid himself, he was beating people like Keres and Reshevsky. |
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Jan-18-07
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| keypusher: <Fischer in 1970 wasn't the strongest player of all time, Fischer in 1971 was.> Okay...
<And of course it is ridiculous to compare Fischer to Tal, Karpov, and Kasparov, because he had far fewer opportunities to practice against top-level competition.> How did you figure out Fischer was the strongest player of all time without comparing him to Tal, Karpov and Kasparov? <The best player of all time though has to be Morphy. When you consider that he was basically a kid from New Orleans with no instruction who was forty years ahead of his time on intuition alone, its hard to make a cogent argument for anyone else.> Actually, it's very easy. If Morphy was 40 years ahead of his time, Philidor was probably 80 years ahead of his, and Greco 200 years ahead of his. Besides, the assertion is ridiculous. <40 years ahead of his time> would be around 1900. The notion that Morphy was 40 years ahead of his time doesn't survive half an hour's study of the games from any of the leading masters from that era. |
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| Jan-18-07 |
| chess as whimsy: I might venture to say that Fischer in 1972 was even stronger than in 1971 or 1970. |
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Aug-01-07
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| keypusher: Here's a pretty good year.
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... |
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Jan-17-08
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| notyetagm: <RookFile: This is a quality blitz game, with a theoretical novelty thrown in.> Leave it to Fischer and his immense desire to win to play the strong novelty 12 c1-g5! in a blitz game. I suppose that the top GMs that Fischer played at the time who played the Spanish (Keres, Gligoric, Petrosian) would hardly play the Schliemann so maybe it was not a bad choice after all. And it did help him win the strongest blitz tournament of all-time. |
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| Jan-18-08 |
| RookFile: <keypusher: The notion that Morphy was 40 years ahead of his time doesn't survive half an hour's study of the games from any of the leading masters from that era.> That must be why Botvinnik singled out Morphy as saying in the 100 years since his death, play in the open game had not signifantly improved over Morphy's. |
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Jan-18-08
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| notyetagm: <RookFile: ... That must be why Botvinnik singled out Morphy as saying in the 100 years since his death, play in the open game had not signifantly improved over Morphy's.> Exactly. Botvinnik said that to learn how to play the Open Game, all you needed to study were the games of Morphy. |
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Jan-18-08
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| keypusher: <RookFile: <keypusher: The notion that Morphy was 40 years ahead of his time doesn't survive half an hour's study of the games from any of the leading masters from that era.> That must be why Botvinnik singled out Morphy as saying in the 100 years since his death, play in the open game had not signifantly improved over Morphy's.> You do realize that Botvinnik's statement has nothing to do with mine, don't you? |
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| Jan-18-08 |
| RookFile: Obviously, notyetagm and I think it has everything to do with the matter. |
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| Jan-18-08 |
| littlefermat: Keypusher was talking about Morphy's overall quality of play, not his understanding of the open game--which is what Botvinnik was commenting on. |
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| Jan-18-08 |
| RookFile: It's not a big distinction, because the vast majority of Morphy's games were open games. You've got Botvinnik saying that essentially, somebody like Tal was not playing the open game significantly better than Morphy did. From Morphy, you might have to fast forward to Lasker (possibly Chigorin) to find somebody else to whom you could make the same statement. I know of no other player in history that gave a <simul> to 5 top twenty players in the world and <won> it. |
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| Sep-12-08 |
| joelsontang: Does any1 know where to obtain fischer's analyses? i only hv 60 memorable games that is analysis from fischer himself... how bout analysis say from 1970s onwards? where to get them??? |
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| Jun-11-09 |
| WhiteRook48: <on VAR: 10 Ne5 c6>
?? 11 Nxc6 |
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Jun-11-09
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| parisattack: <joelsontang: Does any1 know where to obtain fischer's analyses? i only hv 60 memorable games that is analysis from fischer himself... how bout analysis say from 1970s onwards? where to get them???> Chess Meets of the Century with Bjelica. |
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Jun-21-10
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| kafkafan: Tal was jewish and so was Fisher. Majority of great players were Russians. |
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| Aug-17-10 |
| Lil Swine: except fisher went mad and encouraged terrorism |
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| Aug-18-10 |
| Damianx: KingDumb that,s the most ridiculous thing ever say someones partner becomes ill and he plays 1 quarter the tournaments he wont have the best rating but if he is the best he is the best Kasperov should be a pretty good judge & i have him on tape saying if it isn,t me its Fisher besides me Fisher is the greatest of all time no team no computer etc. |
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| Aug-18-10 |
| Damianx: yeah but it was a lot easier to be 40 years ahead when everyone else is in the stone age who is 40 years ahead today |
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| Aug-18-10 |
| Damianx: Timman interview he said we were all very good players & playing very good chess in 71 the only problem was Bobby was playing something else |
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