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|Jan-18-08|| ||RookFile: <keypusher: The notion that Morphy was 40 years ahead of his time doesn't survive half an hour's study of the games from any of the leading masters from that era.>|
That must be why Botvinnik singled out Morphy as saying in the 100 years since his death, play in the open game had not signifantly improved over Morphy's.
|Jan-18-08|| ||notyetagm: <RookFile: ... That must be why Botvinnik singled out Morphy as saying in the 100 years since his death, play in the open game had not signifantly improved over Morphy's.>|
Exactly. Botvinnik said that to learn how to play the Open Game, all you needed to study were the games of Morphy.
|Jan-18-08|| ||keypusher: <RookFile: <keypusher: The notion that Morphy was 40 years ahead of his time doesn't survive half an hour's study of the games from any of the leading masters from that era.>|
That must be why Botvinnik singled out Morphy as saying in the 100 years since his death, play in the open game had not signifantly improved over Morphy's.>
You do realize that Botvinnik's statement has nothing to do with mine, don't you?
|Jan-18-08|| ||RookFile: Obviously, notyetagm and I think it has everything to do with the matter.|
|Jan-18-08|| ||littlefermat: Keypusher was talking about Morphy's overall quality of play, not his understanding of the open game--which is what Botvinnik was commenting on.|
|Jan-18-08|| ||RookFile: It's not a big distinction, because the vast majority of Morphy's games were open games. You've got Botvinnik saying that essentially, somebody like Tal was not playing the open game significantly better than Morphy did. |
From Morphy, you might have to fast forward to Lasker (possibly Chigorin) to find somebody else to whom you could make the same statement.
I know of no other player in history that gave a <simul> to 5 top twenty players in the world and <won> it.
|Sep-12-08|| ||joelsontang: Does any1 know where to obtain fischer's analyses? i only hv 60 memorable games that is analysis from fischer himself... how bout analysis say from 1970s onwards? where to get them???|
|Jun-11-09|| ||WhiteRook48: <on VAR: 10 Ne5 c6>
?? 11 Nxc6|
|Jun-11-09|| ||parisattack: <joelsontang: Does any1 know where to obtain fischer's analyses? i only hv 60 memorable games that is analysis from fischer himself... how bout analysis say from 1970s onwards? where to get them???>|
Chess Meets of the Century with Bjelica.
|Jun-21-10|| ||kafkafan: Tal was jewish and so was Fisher. Majority of great players were Russians.|
|Aug-17-10|| ||Lil Swine: except fisher went mad and encouraged terrorism|
|Aug-18-10|| ||Damianx: KingDumb that,s the most ridiculous thing ever say someones partner becomes ill and he plays 1 quarter the tournaments he wont have the best rating but if he is the best he is the best Kasperov should be a pretty good judge & i have him on tape saying if it isn,t me its Fisher besides me Fisher is the greatest of all time no team no computer etc.|
|Aug-18-10|| ||Damianx: yeah but it was a lot easier to be 40 years ahead when everyone else is in the stone age who is 40 years ahead today|
|Aug-18-10|| ||Damianx: Timman interview he said we were all very good players & playing very good chess in 71 the only problem was Bobby was playing something else|
|Nov-20-10|| ||Atking: After Tal Memorial it looks incredible.|
|Nov-20-10|| ||Travis Bickle: After 32. Rf4+ why didn't Matulovic just resign?|
|Nov-20-10|| ||technical draw: <After 32. Rf4+ why didn't Matulovic just resign?>|
It's blitz. Probably didn't have time to resign.
|Nov-21-10|| ||RandomVisitor: After 12.Bg5: Rybka 4
click for larger view
<[+0.74] d=24 12...a6> 13.Ba4 Bd6 14.Ne5+ c6 15.0-0-0 0-0 16.Bb3+ Nd5 17.Qxe4 Bxe5 18.Qxe5 Be6 19.c4 Nb6 20.Qc5 Nd7 21.Qd6 a5 22.Rhe1 Bg4 23.c5+ Kh8 24.Rd2 Rae8 25.Rxe8 Rxe8 26.Rf2 Re1+ 27.Kc2
|Feb-18-11|| ||fab4: Fischer enhanced the game of chess more than any human being before or since.This is the essence of his greatness, and why he should be considered the greatest chess player of all time.|
There are other reasons for considering Fischer the greatest ever, his charisma , his aesthetic achievements over the board, his sporting ethos and will to win, his dynamism and obsession...
Ultimately it's hos overall massive impact upon the chess world which sets him apart .. and it was Fischer... alone.
Karpov had his hotel full of trainers and regime backers, red carpetting his chess journey akong...
Kasparov had the net and computers.. and ofcourse, trainers...
Fischer was unique.
|Feb-22-11|| ||Lennonfan: Ok<fab4>we have our differences but your argument above as to why fischer's the greatest is ridiculous and holds no ground.(although the man is definately top 5 ever)<there are other reasons for considering fischer the greatest ever,charisma,his aesthetic achievements otb,his sporting ethos and will to win,his dynamism and obsession>CHARISMA? We're judging a player on his chess skills,not because you possibly have some kind of attraction to him!Being charming(which i dont believe he was!)doesn't make you the better player.<his sporting ethos and will to win>doesn't every sportsman in any sport at the top level have this?<his dynamism and obsession>oh please! If he was so obsessed with the game in general he wouldn't have quit while at his peak.
In later life,we're all aware of his opinions on 911 and america etc.so things like this dont make you charismatic,just a moron! I always compare fischer and Kasparov,to maradona and pele in football terms..there's no comparison!.its pele and Kasparov every single time|
|Dec-11-11|| ||mecking93: KASPAROV IS THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME
2º Robert James Fischer
3º Paul Morphy
4º Jose Raúl Capablanca
5º Karpov/ Alekhine/ Lasker/ Tal/ Steinitz/ Carlsen / botvinnik/ Smyslov
|Dec-11-11|| ||RookFile: Fischer was unbelievable in the openings. This was Matulovic's pet system, and Fischer knew better than he did what to do in the key position.|
|Jul-14-12|| ||Stonehenge: 19...Be7 20. 0-0-0 Qe6 was perfectly playable.|
|Oct-14-12|| ||michaels26: Fischer played this game like Morphy used to play. Very strong and unexpected moves, one after another, many involving sacrifices. If they don't all work together, then the game is lost. Morphy and Fischer were both great geniuses. Fischer knew that, and he praised Morphy in the most exalted way.|
|Dec-02-12|| ||Conrad93: Fischer's opponents could defend themselves. Morphy's could not.|
Please don't compare thrash to gold.
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