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Robert James Fischer vs Samuel Schweber
"Schwept Away" (game of the day Oct-28-2011)
Buenos Aires (1970), Buenos Aires ARG, rd 4, Jul-23
French Defense: Winawer. Classical Variation (C18)  ·  1-0
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Kibitzer's Corner
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Feb-06-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Pawn and Two: Fischer's brilliant 23.Rxe4!, and 24.Rxd4!, provided White a transition to a very favorable ending. The Black Queen had no good means of escape, after 24.Rxd4!.

However, after 24.Rxd4!, Schweber did not find the best defense:


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In this position, Fritz indicates Black's best defenses are:

5th best: (2.72) (30 ply) 24.Qxd3? 25.cxd3 Bc6 26.Bb4 Rh7 27.Be7, (2.81) (32 ply) 27...Re8 28.Rc1 a5 29.f3 Ka7.

4th best: 24...Qg4?, this was Schweber's choice, but White is winning in this ending, (2.24) (30 ply) 24...Qg4? 25.Rxg4 Bxg4 26.Bxg6, (2.32) (30 ply) 26...Rhf8 27.Bf4+ Ka8 28.Be5, (2.21) (28 ply) 28...Rd6 29.Bxd6 Rxf6 30.Bd3 Rxd6, or (2.52) (28 ply) 28...b6 29.f4 Rxf6 30.Bxf6 Rd6 31.Bf7 Rxf6 32.Bxd5+.

3rd best: (1.39) (30 ply) 24...Qe5 25.Bf4 Qxf4 26.Rxf4 g5 27.Rd4 Rdf8 28.f4, (1.46) (29 ply) 28...Be6 29.f5 Bd7 30.Rxd5 Rh7, (1.60) (29 ply) 31.Bb5 Kc7 32.Bxd7 Rxd7 33.Rad1 Rdf7 34.Rc5+ Kb6 35.Rdd5 Rxf6 36.Re5 Rd8 37.Kf2. It will take many moves, but I believe White is winning in this variation. Fritz suggests the following as the best continuation: (2.02) (26 ply) 37...Ka6 38.Rcd5 Rdf8 39.Ke3.

2nd best: (1.35) (30 ply) 24...Qc7 25.Bf4 Rdf8 26.Bxc7+ Kxc7 27.Bxg6 Rxf6 28.Bd3 Rhf8 29.f3 Bc6, (1.31) (30 ply) 30.Kf2 a5 31.c3 Kd6. Additional and deeper analysis would be needed to prove if this position is winning for White. After 31...Kd6, Fritz at 28 ply did not find a way to increase White's advantage: (1.36) (28 ply) 32.Ra2 R6f7 33.Rh4 Rf6 34.Be2.

Black's best move: (1.07) (30 ply) 24...Qd6! 25.Bf4 Be8 26.Re1 Rf8 27.Re6, (1.27) (31 ply) 27...Kc7, (27...Qxf4 28.Rxf4 g5 is a close 2nd choice), 28.Bxd6+ Rxd6 29.Re7+ Kc8 30.f3 Rdxf6 31.Rxd5 Bxa4, (1.22) (30 ply) 32.Ra5 Bc6 33.Rxa7 Kb8. Additional analysis would be needed to prove if this position is winning for White.

Certainly, 24...Qd6! or 24...Qc7, offered Black the best drawing chances in this difficult ending.

Feb-07-12  Albion 1959: For me this is probably his best game from 1970. Though others will surely disagree and have their own opinion on this: This was Fischer approaching his peak, he played so many great games during this period, no doubt honing his skills in readiness for a shot at the World title via the candidates series and then onto Spassky !!
Feb-07-12  drukenknight: blacks moves 18-20 seem questionable, why open up the pawn structure when ahead? Off hand, it looks like 18 a5 in order to set the N on an outpost to exchange him for a B maybe a reasonable plan. I know I often forget to grab more space when defending the French and oftetimes the q side expansion is where I missed...
Feb-11-12  LIFE Master AJ: http://www.ajschess.com/lifemastera...

My analysis of this game.

Feb-11-12  TiburcioTinio: Great analysis sir!
Feb-12-12  LIFE Master AJ: Thanks!!!
Feb-22-12  LIFE Master AJ: Just posted my video today ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yeN...

<<excellent intro and analysis, highly doubt anyone in the worldwide chess community is as thorough, big respect from Manchester UK, cheers AJ .. btw, if they handed out the GM title for analysis as they do for Problem Compilation and Correspondence you'd be a Super GM Analyst, no doubt. <<<<<>>>>> >>

AlanWattParrot XX minutes ago

Feb-23-12  LIFE Master AJ: My WEB PAGE for this game is: http://www.ajschess.com/lifemastera....

My "You-Tube" video (for this game) can be found at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yeN....

Feb-23-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Fusilli: <LMAJ> Your analysis says you couldn't figure out the idea behind 18.Rg3 (neither can I) other than perhaps a cheap trap. What cheap trap are you referring to?
Feb-23-12  LIFE Master AJ: Basically if Black plays ...f5; at the wrong time, White moves the Queen away, (eventually) plays RxP/g6, and the second player's game falls apart.

My web page has all the pertinent tactics.

Want to hear something really dumb? One of the trolls "disliked" my video, and even sent me an e-mail to brag about it. (I honestly could care less what any of the trolls think. I am 100% sure that they incapable of being impartial and fair.)

Feb-24-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  TheFocus: Once again, I must correct some things that <AJ> has posted at his webpage:

<BCM (British Chess Magazine) did a series of magazine articles on this tournament, as did other periodicals of that time. (The author of that particular article is one of my favorites. I do not mention his name here, simply because I do not want to be seen as holding him up for ridicule ... he also did not have computer engines to work with, as well.)>

Number one: <BCM> did not do a series of articles on this tournament; they did do ANY articles on this tournament. In November 1970, pg. 336, they had FOUR paragraphs about the final standings.

<BCM> said they took so long (four months) to report the results because they were busy with coverage of Seigen Olympiad.

Number two: Neither this game, nor any other games from that tournament, were annotated in <BCM>. Perhaps <AJ> is thinking of another magazine?

Jan-12-13  Everett: <Dr. J: <Once, quoting Nietzche: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.>>

Hilarious, isn't that Conan the Barbarian?

Jul-06-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: 24...Qd6! would've been such a superb move to find. I'm certain Fischer would have been impressed.
May-04-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  harrylime: <offramp: 24...Qd6! would've been such a superb move to find. I'm certain Fischer would have been impressed.>

Why ?

It's like saying Caravaggio would have been impressed with some daubers in the 21st century ... lol lol

May-04-14  Sally Simpson: Just went through all the 8 pages of Kibizing.

Some lad lamented why this 1970 game was not in the Fischer's My 60 games which was printed in 1969. :)

A lot seemed puzzled with 18.Rg3

Some say 18.Rg3 was a waiting move - waiting for Kb8 so Bobby could spring his trap (it's beautiful in it's conception and stunning to see it but it is a trap.)

This is what happens when one is looking for the answers in their engines which do not give the 'warts an all' thoughts of human play.

Switch them off, they are cripling your imaginations. Humans do not play like computers, humans make mistakes. That is why we don't have 600 GM's graded 2900.

Look for the slight human error, and you have to look for it because a computer is not. It does not even know it is playing a game.

Come fly with me in a silicon free sky.


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18.Rg3 was aimed at Black playing f5 when Fischer had in mind giving up the Queen for two Rooks.

18...f5 19.Qxg6 Rg8 20.Qxg8 Rxg8 21.Rg8+ Nd8.


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and 19.Bxh6 is crushing.

So Black played 18...Kb8 to answer the Queen for two Rooks swap with Bc8. (possibly thinking he is setting his own trap. Who knows?)

With the Bishop being allowed to drop back to c8 after Kb8.


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(Position in Black's mind when pondering why Rg3 and spotting the Q x Rooks trick.)

The h6 pawn cannot be taken. (1.Bxh6 Qh7.)
Still looks good for White even if he cannot play Bxh6.

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OK it's cloud nine analysis. But it's human and it's all mine. It also offer an alternative to explaining Rg3 and Kb8 rather than simply saying Bobby was waiting for Kb8.

The computer cannot tell you why it was played so it's a waiting move....Good Grief. Listening to lot trying to explain a move your computer does not rate is like watching a monkey examining a watch.

Both players were looking at the f5 and Qxg6 line.

When Kb8 was played Bobby switched tracked like all good players do and worked on the Black King and Queen being on the same diagonal.

Tune into their minds and switch off your computers and look at the board...why?...why?....why? and draw you own conclussions. You will have to do that when you play.

AJ saw your video. 54 minutes? It's nearly a three minute intro.

Why do you think people are interested in how you spell Nimzovitch in a Fischer game?

And switch that bloody box off. You are a good player, you don't need the thing. Tell us what you think the players are thinking not what some piece of junk is calculating. Any dipstick can do that, not every dipstick has your OTB experience. Pass it on.

Well that is me upsetting all the compter geeks again - can't help it. I'll be OK. They won't come back with anything more original than 'luddite.'

♖♘♗♕♔♘♖

Wonderful piece of chess from Fischer....They should have stuck that game in the first reprint of 60MG's.

May-26-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Beancounter: Harmonious is the word I would use in connection to Fischer's chess. Everything just seems to follow on from the last move. Sublime skills.
Apr-15-15  Zugzwangovich: Of RJF's 8.Be2 in this game Soltis writes, "Fischer was virtually alone in preferring this order to 8.a4 Bd7 9.Bd2. Perhaps he was afraid of 8.a4 cd 9.cd Nb4, when White has to try 10.Rb1 Nc2 11.Kd2 or gambit the pawn (10.Bb5 Bd7 11.Bd7 Kd7 12.0-0 Qc2 13.Qe1)."

I have two problems with this note. First, I checked all the games in this database where 7...Nc6 was played up through 1970 and found only one where 8.a4 was played and several where 8.Be2 was played. Second, after 8.a4 cd 9.cd Nb4 10.Rb1 Nc2 11.Kd2 the Knight is lost, isn't it? Is this a known sacrifice?

Jun-09-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <Sally....AJ saw your video. 54 minutes? It's nearly a three minute intro.

Why do you think people are interested in how you spell Nimzovitch in a Fischer game?

And switch that bloody box off. You are a good player, you don't need the thing. Tell us what you think the players are thinking not what some piece of junk is calculating. Any dipstick can do that, not every dipstick has your OTB experience. Pass it on. >

Here's to that.

<Well that is me upsetting all the compter geeks again - can't help it. I'll be OK. They won't come back with anything more original than 'luddite.'>

It is one thing to use a computer to assist one's analysis, quite another to allow the software to replace the joys of learning and playing, not to mention using analysis thereby generated to sit back and fire potshots at others.

Jun-09-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  john barleycorn: Good old <AJ Goldsby I> he may be gone but his BS is still entertaining.
Jun-09-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  RookFile: You have to tip your cap to the mastery Fischer showed in this game.
Mar-09-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  Eduardo Bermudez: Interesting and surprising intermediate move !
Mar-09-16  Howard: Not sure which "intermediate move" to which you're referring, but a move from this game made the list on Krabbe's website of the "top 110 chess moves of all time".

Check it out !

Mar-29-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  HeMateMe: I love 24.Rxd4.
Apr-06-17  The Kings Domain: Simple and impressive victory by Fischer. The way his best games appear like step by step building blocks to victory are among the most appealing and instructive in the game.
Jun-10-17  Albion 1959: Had another look at this game, I still think that is his best game from 1970. All that brilliant play from move 20, just to win a pawn. But also it resulted in a simplified position where Fischer had a 3-1 kingside pawn advantage and that proved to be enough:
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