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Mar-09-17 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: Easiest Thursday in a long time, because there are so few continuations to try. Push pawns. Check that the knight is poisoned. Discover the convenient facts that ... Bf6 is both essential and prevented by a g5 pawn. Done. |
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Mar-09-17 | | stst: Again At a glance, the d pawn has to guard Black K's movement, and the g pawn has to drive or distract Black K, so the only most reasonable move is Ke4. Black B on dark sq. cannot do anything but go Be5, then the g pawn advances, Black K has to take it, or move away from d pawn, hence allowing chances for it to advance, and later promote. |
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Mar-09-17 | | BOSTER: How to play after 40.d6 Ba3? |
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Mar-09-17 | | stst: Have to correct myself, "only" should read "one."
The mind speaks of 40.d6, the pen works on 40.Ke4.
For Fish, the simpler is preferred, for sure. |
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Mar-09-17 | | Marmot PFL: 40 Ke4 followed by Nd4 and d6 also looks very good. |
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Mar-09-17 | | YouRang: <BOSTER: How to play after 40.d6 Ba3?>
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41.d7 Be7 42.Nd4!
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The N nicely blocks the K from e6, while threatening 43.Nc6 to support the promotion square. One way it might go is:
42...Kg5 43.d8Q! Bxd8 44.Ne6+ Kxg4 45.Nxd8
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White has no problem picking off the black pawns and promoting the a-pawn. |
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Mar-09-17 | | BOSTER: < YouRang >. Thanks. |
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Mar-09-17 | | YouRang: <BOSTER> Checking with the computer, I see that 40.d6 Ba3 41.d7 Be7 can also be answered simply by 42.Nxe7! Kxd7
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The d7 pawn is a goner, but white still wins by going after the queenside pawns while black must be concerned about Pg4. |
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Mar-09-17 | | pmukerji: Unfortunately I'm not seeing this. Here's what I see: with the final position on the board and black to move as black i would play 44. Kg8 and block the g pawn from queening. Thought here is that as soon as white moves the knight, the king takes the pawn on g7. Now as regards the d pawn, black can play Bd8 and protect the black a pawn and cover the d8 square at the same time and the a pawn can protect the b pawn too. If white starts to move it's king to help queen the d pawn, black can gang up on White's a pawn with its connected a-b pawns to queen. What am I missing?...I'm clearly missing something important. |
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Mar-09-17 | | pmukerji: Looks like clement41 had the same question...the game as is played looks like a draw to me...thoughts anyone? |
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Mar-09-17 | | michael104: After 44...Kg8, how about 45.Nd4 Kxg7 46.Ne6+ Kf7 47.d8Q Bxd8 48.Nxd8+. This should be a straightforward win for white. |
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Mar-09-17 | | pmukerji: Wow...that's so cool...thx Michael. |
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Mar-10-17 | | wtpy: After 40 ..Ba3 41 g5 looks like it wins ad well. 41..Ke6 or Kf7 42 g6 and curtains. |
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Mar-12-17 | | diceman: In poker terminology:
“One Fischer beats a pair of bishops.” |
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Oct-01-24
 | | offramp: De virtuosi? People called <Romanes> they go the house? BTW, remember that Michael Palin invented the palindrome. |
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Oct-01-24 | | goodevans: I'm curious. The SF annotations award Spassky's <34...h5> a <?> saying that he should have played <34...Bxc3> instead with play proceeding "35.Kf2 b4 36.Ke3 a5 37.Kd3 a4 38.Kc4 Bd2 39.Nd4 ± +1.97 (33 ply)". click for larger viewThat seems bizarre to me. My guess is that he chose to push the h-pawn because he thought that simply <34...Bxc3 35.Nxh6> would be hopeless. Okay, so Black can create a passed b-pawn but White's K can get across to stop that. That would tie up White's K but with three passed pawns surely his N is sufficient to force home the advantage? So who's right, Spassky or Stockfish? |
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Oct-01-24
 | | Teyss: I propose a temporary embargo on palindromes.
<goodevans (...) So who's right, Spassky or Stockfish?> Spassky by definition and presently because keeping the h Pawn makes sense. We're reaching the limit of SF in quick mode since the analyses provided for Black's 34th and White's 35th are at 33 and 27 ply respectively but if you let the engine run longer it gives different results: 34...h5: +2.8 at 27 ply but +8.6 at 38 ply, a huge gap analysis of move 35.? 34...Bxc3: +4.7 at 36 ply analysis of move 35.? But the strange thing is, when you force 35.Nxh6 which seems better than the proposed Kf2, the result is even better: +7.8 at 32 ply analysis of move 35...? Clearly a horizon effect. I've let SF run for 1 hour on move 34..., any user can pick it up later on to see which is best. Bottom line is Black is busted, just depends how. |
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Oct-01-24 | | areknames: <Teyss> Hehe, I support your proposal of a temporary embargo. This game title is just ridiculous. |
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Oct-01-24
 | | MissScarlett: I have committed to morotoria on palindromic puns before, but my admiration for the cleverness of <lossmaster> and <BxChess> always overcome any scruples. |
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Oct-01-24 | | SkySports: <I propose a temporary embargo on palindromes.> APPROVED!!!! |
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Oct-01-24
 | | Teyss: <MissScarlett: (...) scruples.> ?? The results after 1 hour analysis are at 41 ply +5.6 for 34...Bxc3 and +12.1 for 34...h5, so in computer mode the former is better whilst in human mode the latter seems more logical. In any case Black cannot save the endgame especially against Fischer, even way past his prime. analysis of move 34...? |
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Oct-01-24 | | silenttrain: You guys are too harsh, I enjoyed this palindrome. Maybe you should spend some time elsewhere. |
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Oct-01-24 | | areknames: <silenttrain> don't worry about that mate, we spend all of our time here ;) |
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Oct-01-24 | | BxChess: Nup. A no on a pun. |
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Oct-01-24
 | | tamar: Clever. I think you snuck through the embargo, BX |
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