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| May-03-06 |
| DeepBlade: This game is all about the pressure. After 15. ...Rfd8, Euwe exerts pressure on the almost-backranked king by checking it into nastiness. After 17 ...Kf8, White needs to control the e7 square on order to backrank the king. The bishop on e6 is virtually pinned, because of the mate threat. White exploits it well with strong moves like Ncxd5 w/ Nxd5. Fisher's mistake was underestimating the threat, expressed by the move 16. ...Nb4 |
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Mar-30-07
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| aragorn69: Interesting take on this opening by Hans Ree :
<the Westphalia was the ship that brought the European masters (Lasker not being among them) to the tournament in New York in 1927. On board some of them analysed the variation of the Queen's Gambit Declined in which black plays Nbd7, Bb4 and c7-c5, which has become known as the Westphalia or Manhattan variation. The variation is still very much alive, as witnessed by the games of Levon Aronian. But beware, as against a very young Bobby Fischer, Euwe showed that black's system is senseless when white's knight is still on g1.> Source: http://www.chesscafe.com/hans/hans.... |
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Mar-30-07
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| keypusher: Euwe does a great job of cutting off the Black king's escape route with 16. Rae1 (threatening Qh7  -Nxd5--Qh8#), 18. a3! (forcing the knight to abandon the defense of d5) and 19. Ncxd5. A good lesson in Kingside attacking. |
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Aug-21-07
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| leow: lopium; it may be true that euwes overall record against aljechin is noegative. Ive read many years (IN A BOOK BY bOUWMEESTER) ago that part of the reason is that the rematch in 1937 was played badly by Euwe was because he had little time to prepare. Euwe hAD TO COLLECT A LPT OF MONEY FOR THE 1935 match (in those days there was no FIDE which organized the champinonship), after winning in 1935, Euwe was expected in return to do a lot of simuls and demos which waisted his energy But I do not know if this story is correct or just an excuse. |
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| Sep-20-08 |
| Fanacas: Its correct as far as i now. |
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| Sep-20-08 |
| RookFile: Euwe was the last strong chess 'amateur' world champion. Amateur does not refer to his strength but to the fact that chess was only one of a few things he did. |
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| Oct-20-08 |
| Fanacas: Thats treu he was a match teacher he had a brefet to fly in plains and he did many other things like boxing he always kept his health in a good shape 2. |
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Mar-07-09
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| waustad: <rookfile>Vassily Smyslov was a singer and Botvinnik was an engineer, if I recall. |
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| Apr-13-09 |
| Jim Bartle: Randomness is an understatement! (Welcome.) |
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| Apr-13-09 |
| AnalyzeThis: <waustad: Vassily Smyslov was a singer and Botvinnik was an engineer, if I recall. > It depends on what your standards are. Compared to Fischer, they were amateurs, because they didn't spend their whole lives doing chess. On the other hand, they were subsidized by the USSR, and had a lot more time for chess than Euwe or Lasker, for example. |
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| Aug-23-09 |
| WhiteRook48: very amusing game to play through |
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| Sep-03-09 |
| kooley782: This is an interesting game, surprising that Euwe was able to defeat 14 year old Fischer in a mere 20 moves. Euwe is a very underrated Grandmaster, but he was one of the strongest players of his day. What was his rating? |
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| Sep-03-09 |
| AnalyzeThis: Well, they didn't have Elo ratings until the 1960's, when Euwe was well past his prime. Just my opinion, but a guy who put 20 wins up on the board against Alekhine must have reached a strength of at least 2700 at some point. |
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Sep-03-09
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| Boomie: For what it's worth, Chessmetrics reckons Euwe's rating at 2620 at the time of this match. Fischer was at 2452. His highest rating was 2769 after the first Alekhine match. http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Play... |
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| Sep-03-09 |
| kooley782: Cool, thanks! |
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Jan-11-10
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| chancho: This is game one of a three game match played in New York.
(which Euwe won.)
Of course the kid from Brooklyn was still years away from becoming the phenomenon that he later became. |
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Jan-11-10
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| TheFocus: <chancho> <This is game one of a three game match played in New York. (which Euwe won.)
Of course the kid from Brooklyn was still years away from becoming the phenomenon that he later became.> Actually a two game match. Bobby drew the second game. Nor would I say years away. He did win his first US Championship that same year a few months later. |
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| Jan-11-10 |
| Petrosianic: Yes, it was a two game match, and the second game was never printed. That's surprising, you'd think that a prominent junior star getting a draw with a former world champion would have been big news. But from Euwe's comments about the game, one gets the feeling that he gave Fischer a draw in a winning position, which would explain why they never bragged about it. Euwe commented that he'd been in trouble, but pulled off "something of a swindle", and stood "rather better" when the game ended. Read between the lines a little... |
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Jan-11-10
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| chancho: Yeah, it was two games.
I looked at the total number: 1/2 and 1/1/2 total and confused it as a third game.
Mea culpa.
<The Focus> I had a feeling someone would make a mountain out of a molehill with the comment I posted. I was referring to Fischer in the 1970's and what he accomplished on his run to the world title.
Winning the US Championship at the age of 14 was a notable accomplishment. |
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Jan-11-10
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| TheFocus: <Petrosianic>< Yes, it was a two game match, and the second game was never printed. That's surprising, you'd think that a prominent junior star getting a draw with a former world champion would have been big news. But from Euwe's comments about the game, one gets the feeling that he gave Fischer a draw in a winning position, which would explain why they never bragged about it. Euwe commented that he'd been in trouble, but pulled off "something of a swindle", and stood "rather better" when the game ended. Read between the lines a little...> Where did Euwe make these remarks about the drawn game? I haven't seen them. |
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Jan-11-10
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| chancho: <The score of this game is not available,(second game) but Euwe remembers that the game followed Botvinnik v Euwe Leningrad 1934, for some way, Fischer got some advantage, Euwe pulled off something of a swindle and stood rather better when the draw was agreed.> Complete Games of Bobby Fischer pg 123. |
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Jan-11-10
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| TheFocus: Chanco, the second game draw is available here at CG. I don't know why Complete Games does not have it. It was certainly available then. Fischer – Euwe, M.
Ruy Lopez
match game 2
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Nxe4 6.d4 b5 7.Bb3 d5 8.dxe5 Be6 9.c3 Be7 10.Nbd2 O-O 11.Qe2 Nc5 12.Nd4 Nxb3 13.N2xb3 Qd7 14.Nxc6 Qxc6 15.Be3 Qc4 16.Qd2 draw. Fischer deviated at move 15...Qc4 from the Leningrad game. Too bad we don't have the remaining moves. It was poorly reported in both Chess Life and Chess review. |
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| Jan-11-10 |
| Petrosianic: That's not a complete game, it's only the opening moves, which Euwe remembered when asked years later. |
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Jan-11-10
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| TheFocus: Euwe annotated his win in Bobby Fischer: The Greatest?. Kmoch annotated it in Chess Review. |
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Jan-11-10
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| chancho: <The Focus> what <Petrosianic> said. |
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