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Max Euwe vs Robert James Fischer
New York m 1957  ·  Queen's Gambit Declined: Exchange. Positional Variation (D35)  ·  1-0


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Apr-11-05   drukenknight: iron: yes that is what I meant by "one game." we've analyzed it here, very difficult. I think I still have one more move to suggest in that.
Apr-11-05   beatgiant: <RookFile>
<13.... g5 14. Nxe6 fxe6 15. Bg3 Qb6! 16. Be5 Nxe5 17. dxe5 Ne4! Black makes threats too!>

But then 18. Nxe4 fxe4 19. Qh5 appears to leave White winning at least a pawn with Black's kingside still weak, and I don't really see Black's threats. What say you?

Apr-12-05   RookFile: Oh! I'm sorry, an error on my part...
I played this out on a separate board,
I didn't think what had castled.
So my planned infiltration on f2
is no good. LOL
Apr-12-05   erimiro1: So many explanations for such a short game... It's all because certain people believe so much in the legend of Fischer, and must find reasons for facts that ignore it, (including his mental problems). It's a short nice game of the ex-champion Euwe and this is it.
Apr-12-05   lopium: RookFile, yes, Euwe beated Alekhine 20 times. But Alekhine beated Euwe 28 times....
Apr-12-05
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  keypusher: Stein and Fischer also drew in the Stockholm interzonal.

Leonid Stein vs Fischer, 1962

Given their wonderful game at Sousse, it is a real shame they didn't play more.

May-14-05   Kingsandsquares: All Kulla said was that he was a child at the time, a simple observation, not an excuse in this case...
Aug-23-05   gomickeylol: I thought Bobby always played the KID?????????
Aug-23-05   gomickeylol: thats the kings indian defence, not some kid
Aug-30-05   RookFile: Spassky had an opportunity to play the bishop out to g5 in his first match game against Fischer in 1972, yet played the more reserved e3 and transposed into a Nimzo. I wonder why? Well, as we know, it worked out for Spassky in that game when Fischer tried the infamous ...Bxh2 and got his bishop trapped.
May-03-06   DeepBlade: This game is all about the pressure. After 15. ...Rfd8, Euwe exerts pressure on the almost-backranked king by checking it into nastiness.

After 17 ...Kf8, White needs to control the e7 square on order to backrank the king. The bishop on e6 is virtually pinned, because of the mate threat. White exploits it well with strong moves like Ncxd5 w/ Nxd5.

Fisher's mistake was underestimating the threat, expressed by the move 16. ...Nb4

Mar-30-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  aragorn69: Interesting take on this opening by Hans Ree :

<the Westphalia was the ship that brought the European masters (Lasker not being among them) to the tournament in New York in 1927. On board some of them analysed the variation of the Queen's Gambit Declined in which black plays Nbd7, Bb4 and c7-c5, which has become known as the Westphalia or Manhattan variation. The variation is still very much alive, as witnessed by the games of Levon Aronian. But beware, as against a very young Bobby Fischer, Euwe showed that black's system is senseless when white's knight is still on g1.>

Source: http://www.chesscafe.com/hans/hans....

Mar-30-07
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  keypusher: Euwe does a great job of cutting off the Black king's escape route with 16. Rae1 (threatening Qh7 -Nxd5--Qh8#), 18. a3! (forcing the knight to abandon the defense of d5) and 19. Ncxd5. A good lesson in Kingside attacking.
Aug-21-07
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  leow: lopium; it may be true that euwes overall record against aljechin is noegative. Ive read many years (IN A BOOK BY bOUWMEESTER) ago that part of the reason is that the rematch in 1937 was played badly by Euwe was because he had little time to prepare. Euwe hAD TO COLLECT A LPT OF MONEY FOR THE 1935 match (in those days there was no FIDE which organized the champinonship), after winning in 1935, Euwe was expected in return to do a lot of simuls and demos which waisted his energy

But I do not know if this story is correct or just an excuse.

Sep-20-08   Fanacas: Its correct as far as i now.
Sep-20-08   RookFile: Euwe was the last strong chess 'amateur' world champion. Amateur does not refer to his strength but to the fact that chess was only one of a few things he did.
Oct-20-08   Fanacas: Thats treu he was a match teacher he had a brefet to fly in plains and he did many other things like boxing he always kept his health in a good shape 2.
Mar-07-09
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  waustad: <rookfile>Vassily Smyslov was a singer and Botvinnik was an engineer, if I recall.
Apr-13-09   Jim Bartle: Randomness is an understatement! (Welcome.)
Apr-13-09   AnalyzeThis: <waustad: Vassily Smyslov was a singer and Botvinnik was an engineer, if I recall. >

It depends on what your standards are. Compared to Fischer, they were amateurs, because they didn't spend their whole lives doing chess. On the other hand, they were subsidized by the USSR, and had a lot more time for chess than Euwe or Lasker, for example.

Aug-23-09   WhiteRook48: very amusing game to play through
Sep-03-09   kooley782: This is an interesting game, surprising that Euwe was able to defeat 14 year old Fischer in a mere 20 moves. Euwe is a very underrated Grandmaster, but he was one of the strongest players of his day. What was his rating?
Sep-03-09   AnalyzeThis: Well, they didn't have Elo ratings until the 1960's, when Euwe was well past his prime. Just my opinion, but a guy who put 20 wins up on the board against Alekhine must have reached a strength of at least 2700 at some point.
Sep-03-09
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  Boomie: For what it's worth, Chessmetrics reckons Euwe's rating at 2620 at the time of this match. Fischer was at 2452. His highest rating was 2769 after the first Alekhine match. http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Play...
Sep-03-09   kooley782: Cool, thanks!
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