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Feb-23-08
 | | notyetagm: (VAR) Position after 22  f1-a1??
click for larger viewHere is a variation from the above game in which Korchnoi (White) has just doubled on the a-file with 22 f1-a1??. Why is this move a blunder? Because the Black b6-queen and h6-bishop are <COORDINATED> on the e3-square, which just happens to be <LINED UP> with the White g1-king and <UNDEFENDED> White d2-knight. So Fischer (Black) would have struck hard with 22 ...  h6xe3!, the main point being the <RELOADER> 23 f2xe3  b6xe3+ 24  g1-h1 e3x d2, winning two healthy pawns for nothing. (VAR) Position after 22 ... h6xe3!
click for larger view(VAR) Position after 23 f2xe3 b6xe3+ <reload on e3>
click for larger view(VAR) Position after 24 g1-h1 e3xd2
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Feb-23-08
 | | Tomlinsky: <Here is a variation from the above game in which Korchnoi (White) has just doubled on the a-file with 22.Rf1-a1??.> <notyetagm> You're losing me. 22.Rf1-a1?? <wasn't> played so you mean that it <would> have been a blunder <had> it been played right? In which case, the opportunity for analysis on blunders that weren't actually ever played in games is mind-blowing! 8) |
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Feb-23-08
| | notyetagm: <Tomlinsky: ... You're losing me. 22.Rf1-a1?? <wasn't> played so you mean that it <would> have been a blunder <had> it been played right? In which case, the opportunity for analysis on blunders that weren't actually ever played in games is mind-blowing! 8)> You missed the point entirely.
This variation shows you why Korchnoi -cannot- double rooks on the open a-file with 22 f1-a1??, because of the <RELOADER> on the e3-square. Doubling rooks on the open a-file with 22 f1-a1?? is <STRATEGICALLY> desirable but fails for <TACTICAL> reasons. |
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| Feb-24-08 | | Helios727: <s4life>, After 32. Qa6, would that not leave black ahead by a knight after 32... Ne5 ? The way I see it, white's best move was 32. dxc6. |
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Feb-25-08
| | notyetagm: Position after 44 ... e5-f3 0-1
click for larger view<ConLaMismaMano: <boowillo> It's mate in three. 45.b7 Rg1+ 46.Kh3 Kh5! (threatns Ng5++) 47.g4+ fxg4++> Position after 45 b6-b7 d1-g1+ 46 g2-h3
click for larger viewPosition after 46 ... g5-h5! ( 47 ... f3-g5#)
click for larger viewPosition after 47 g3-g4+ f5xg4#
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| Mar-09-08 | | Helios727: <notyetagm>: How do you do the triangle icon like you did above? |
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Mar-10-08
| | notyetagm: <Helios727: <notyetagm>: How do you do the triangle icon like you did above?> Simply put the word "threat" (not with double quotes) into the standard curly braces for making figurine notation. I tried this for other Chess Informant symbols (box for only move, etc.) but it did not seem to work. |
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Apr-11-09
 | | waustad: It is interesting that in the database for Fischer vs Korchnoi, black had five wins and only one loss. |
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Apr-30-10
 | | thegoodanarchist: It is also interesting that Korchnoi does not have a "minus" record versus Fischer. |
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| Mar-23-11 | | newzild: This game should be used as the definition of "swindle". Playing through the games between these two, I reckon Viktor had Bobby's measure. I would be interested to hear Viktor's thoughts on Bobby as an opponent. |
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| Mar-23-11 | | fab4: Korchnoi blundered. and that's that.. and that's chess. This is no swindle. As for Victor's record against RJF, again it's a case of wins in the early 60's when Fischer was young and arrogant... The lack of play amongst the elite back then protected korchnoi.. To suggest korchnoi had Fischer's number is just silly. |
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| Mar-23-11 | | ewan14: Sorry but Fischer's wins against Korchnoi were in the early 60's as well i.e. Stockholm interzonal & Cuaracao
1967 Souzze ( ? ) draw
1970 draw |
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| Mar-23-11 | | fab4: Yes that's true. It's a shame they did'nt meet more often. There encounters were always fascinating. |
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Mar-23-11
 | | pawn to QB4: <I would be interested to hear Viktor's thoughts on Bobby as an opponent.>
From his autobiography it's clear he thought very highly of his abilities: "one sensed Fischer was developing into a very powerful force": this from the mid 60s, when he seems to think Spassky, for instance, underestimated the danger. Korchnoi declined to be help Petrosian in his candidates' final v Fischer, commenting that he'd expected more grief for this refusal than he got from the Soviet authorities...speculated that they went easy on him "because they knew the devil himself couldn't help Petrosian against Fischer" - and this at a time when he regarded Petrosian as a formidable opponent for himself. So clearly he had a high regard for Fischer's ability, which, of course, was the correct estimation. |
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| Mar-25-11 | | newzild: < fab4: Korchnoi blundered. and that's that.. and that's chess. This is no swindle. As for Victor's record against RJF, again it's a case of wins in the early 60's when Fischer was young and arrogant... To suggest korchnoi had Fischer's number is just silly.> I don't understand why it is "silly" to suggest Korchnoi had Fischer's measure. As pointed out by <ewan14>, the last two games between these two were drawn. Of the other four, Korchnoi won two and should have won a third (this one). Have you studied those games? Because I have - all six of them. Korchnoi had a scrappy playing style that seemed to trouble Bobby. |
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| Mar-25-11 | | newzild: <pawn to QB4> Thanks. Interesting comments from Korchnoi. |
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| Nov-30-11 | | King Death: newzild: < To suggest korchnoi had Fischer's number is just silly.> <I don't understand why it is "silly" to suggest Korchnoi had Fischer's measure.> The way I understand the meaning of the phrase "to have (somebody's) number", it's when one player or team has a big advantage over another. If this was the intent by <fab4>, then I agree. < As pointed out by <ewan14>, the last two games between these two were drawn. Of the other four, Korchnoi won two and should have won a third (this one).> No question Korchnoi "should have won". But he didn't. There was the other Korchnoi win at Curacao, which Fischer "should have" won. Then there's the game at Sousse, which both players "could have" won. I think we're getting pretty deep into supposition country here. <Korchnoi had a scrappy playing style that seemed to trouble Bobby.> Fischer did seem to have an easier time when he was given his way. Korchnoi had an understanding of how to cause him trouble. |
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Dec-08-11
 | | HeMateMe: In chessbase today, there is a story about the Anand/Nakamura game. Korchnoi was in the press room, complaining that the KID is horrible, easy to beat, etc. But--he has three games in the database against KID proponent Bobby Fischer, where fischer playd the KID. BF gets two wins and a draw, not too bad for a worthless opening. Here, Korchnoi blunders (more likely miscalculates one of his two passed pawns becoming a Queen) a piece on move 32. |
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| Aug-25-12 | | tivrfoa: 32. c1??
If Korchnoi had at least draw this game, he would have a plus score against Fischer!!! =)
Is there someone that has a plus score against Bobby?
Thank you. |
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Aug-26-12
 | | TheFocus: <tivrfoa> Several people have plus scores against Bobby. Check out this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o... |
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| Sep-07-12 | | tivrfoa: Ty <TheFocus> |
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Mar-03-13
 | | Garech: Amazing miss by Korchnoi; he must have been pissed!
-Garech |
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| Mar-03-13 | | RookFile: I just played this over - this did have all the earmarks of a crush by white right until the blunder. |
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Mar-03-13
 | | harrylime: Yeah but knowing Korchnoi the blunder is funny lol
And tbh in future games Bobby let him off the hook somewhat IMO. |
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Mar-04-13
 | | lost in space: 32. Rc1 reminds me very much how I lose my games |
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